[00:20:45] <jeroendedauw_>	 Yaco: what do you want to know?
[00:21:47] <Yaco>	 hi jeroendedauw_
[00:22:15] <Yaco>	 i have been trying to implement SM in my wiki for several days, can't make the simplest test work
[00:22:29] <Yaco>	 please go to http://p2pfoundation.net/User_talk:Yaco
[00:22:46] <Yaco>	 i added the coordinates property to a "Test" page
[00:23:03] <Yaco>	 but cannot make it appear in a map trough a query in SM
[00:23:05] <jeroendedauw_>	 Yaco: you did not set teh type of the property
[00:23:10] <jeroendedauw_>	 It needs to be geo coord
[00:23:26] <Yaco>	 where do i define that?
[00:23:30] <jeroendedauw_>	 See the source of http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Property:Has%20coordinates
[00:23:35] <jeroendedauw_>	 At Property:$name
[00:23:40] <jeroendedauw_>	 Using Has type
[00:23:49] <jeroendedauw_>	 See the SMW user manual
[00:24:52] <jeroendedauw_>	 :)
[00:26:04] <Yaco>	 ok, i will need a bit more help before catching it
[00:26:08] <Yaco>	 so, i am here
[00:26:09] <Yaco>	 http://p2pfoundation.net/Property:Has_coordinates
[00:26:25] <Yaco>	 shall i go to "browse properties"?
[00:26:47] <Yaco>	 ahh, using "create with form", right?
[00:30:54] <Yaco>	 yeap, working now
[00:30:58] <Yaco>	 thanks jeroendedauw!
[05:35:09] <vigour>	 I am using input field with input type=checkboxes and values=A, B, C
[05:36:13] <vigour>	 And I want to query like so, [[PropertyX::A || B || C]]
[05:36:23] <vigour>	 What is the recommended way to query like this?
[05:38:50] <vigour>	 Selecting checkbox A returns A; Selecting A and B returns A, B; selecting A, B and C returns A, B, C etc
[08:01:31] <edgethy>	 How can we use <nowiki> to remove whitespace
[08:10:46] <edgethy>	 I have different templates in a form, and it is introducing linebreaks and thus whitespace
[08:11:00] <edgethy>	 How do I handle it?
[08:58:27] <edgethy>	 I have different templates in a form, and it is introducing linebreaks and thus whitespace
[08:58:34] <edgethy>	 How do I handle it?
[09:06:33] <Saruman>	 remove linbrakes in the templates
[09:07:21] <Saruman>	 let the first line of your template start directly after <includeonly> (or </noinclude>) and not the line below
[09:35:59] <edgethy>	 Saruman: The line breaks are coming from the semantic form
[09:36:45] <edgethy>	 One template ends, and then the second starts on a new line
[09:37:43] <Saruman>	 yes, can't change that
[09:37:54] <Saruman>	 or you'd have to merge the two templates
[09:38:24] <edgethy>	 The second template is freetext
[09:39:02] <edgethy>	 Should I rather put a field in the first template to act as free text?
[09:39:49] <Saruman>	 sure, that'll work
[09:40:06] <Saruman>	 but why is a linebrake between your tempated stuff and the freetext a problem?
[09:40:35] <edgethy>	 Because the template doesn't always render
[09:41:19] <edgethy>	 And so there is unnecessary whitespace at the beginning of the article
[09:41:52] <edgethy>	 There is a #if parser in the template, so it renders only sometimes
[09:42:07] <edgethy>	 And after this template comes freetext
[09:42:08] <Saruman>	 if it doesn't render it shouldn't insert linebreaks of its own
[09:42:31] <Saruman>	 a single linebreak between template and freetext shouln'd cause more than a single line of whitespace, if any
[09:42:58] <edgethy>	 Yes, only a single line, but that looks ugly
[09:44:50] <edgethy>	 The template is very simple
[09:44:53] <edgethy>	 <includeonly>{{#if {{{1|}}} |render_me}}</includeonly>
[09:45:41] <edgethy>	 And as you said "if it doesn't render it shouldn't insert linebreaks of its own", it doesn't insert linebreaks of its own.
[09:45:56] <edgethy>	 It is the form that is causing problem
[09:47:03] <edgethy>	 Saruman: Do you know of any whitespace tricks, I heard about using <nowiki>, how do we use that to handle whitespace?
[09:47:18] <edgethy>	 Or using templates?
[10:14:49] <Saruman>	 there are whitespace tricks, but not that I know of for your situation
[10:15:39] <Saruman>	 and <nowiki> has nothing to do with showing whitespace or not, but only if the parser should interpret or not
[17:57:18] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Yay!" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticBundle] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36582
[17:57:37] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticBundle] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36582
[20:46:38] <Nikerabbit>	 jeroendedauw_: is Stephan Gambke in bugzilla/irc?
[20:48:15] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Nikerabbit; "This is likely cause for bug https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42624" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticForms] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34974
[21:33:07] <jeroendedauw_>	 Nikerabbit: foxtrot
[22:16:21] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "fixed name of externals file" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticBundle] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37651
[22:16:22] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Remove .git and other hidden files" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticBundle] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37652
[22:16:57] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticBundle] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37652
[22:16:57] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticBundle] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37651
[23:27:57] <joru>	 Hi, I've just started experimenting a bit more thorough with semantic mediawiki and I have some ideas of how I want to use it with some public data. However I need some pointers. I'm currently accessing a db through a set of php-scripts (in a REST fashion) and keep a local copy of some of the data (MYSQL/SQLite or whatever) for keeping statistics over time.
[23:28:51] <joru>	 I've read up on the capabilities of some extensions to access the mysql-db directly using the External Data extension
[23:29:55] <joru>	 I have done some testing an so on, read up on trying to store the data using the #store_external_table key and then accessing it through an #ask query
[23:32:05] <joru>	 but I have some trouble understanding how to actually make it work (doc says i have to create some new pages and types).
[23:32:27] <joru>	 (http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:External_Data)
[23:32:36] <joru>	 do anyone of you know a good tutorial on this topic?
[23:33:44] <joru>	 What i really want to do is use the data and plot, maybe using the Result formats extension
[23:34:53] <joru>	 is it generally "better" to format and output actual data of interest into a CSV-file that I put on a page?
[23:35:17] <joru>	 since the doc seems to talk about this here and there. thsnks for any help or ideas.
[23:36:47] <joru>	 rather than access the mysql database directly (security issues)
[23:44:52] <joru>	 well, I guess after some thought that I'll go about a server-client-API and format data of interest from the server into CSV, then using something like dygraphs. Night.
[23:46:42] <joru>	 or some D3 bubbles, excellent. Getting all excited now...