[00:00:07] New review: Kghbln; "There is a typo concerning the language class. Apart from that there are no worries, at least for me..." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35577 [00:02:49] New review: Kghbln; "Great, thank you for completing the I18n!" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35572 [00:04:49] New review: Kghbln; "Thank you!" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35576 [00:07:56] New patchset: Toniher; "Adding Ca Lang" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35577 [00:10:01] New review: Kghbln; "That was fast. :) Thank you!" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35577 [08:25:43] New review: Markus Kroetzsch; "Quite an improvement overall (procedural programming!), but I still have some comments." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35417 [08:34:13] New review: Markus Kroetzsch; "What I was thinking of was that the store already has a way to get this count, basically by answerin..." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35156 [08:35:57] Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35572 [08:42:29] New review: Nikerabbit; "Does SMW not have way to speficy namespace aliases? Looks like this will break backwards compatibility." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35576 [09:21:48] New review: Toniher; "Thanks for raising the issue, Nikerabbit. " [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35576 [12:55:47] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Agree with Nike about potential compat breaking and then with Toniher that is is unlikely to cause m..." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35576 [12:55:47] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35576 [12:56:30] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Great, thanks! :)" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35577 [12:56:30] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35577 [14:49:11] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Cleanup of SMW_setup.php, attempt to fix bug 42349" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35417 [15:45:41] yaron Heiya, just a short question if there is time? [15:56:20] New review: Yaron Koren; "Sorry for the delay. This looks good! I guess SF 2.5.2 will now require MW 1.18 or higher, due to th..." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticForms] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34974 [15:56:20] Change merged: Yaron Koren; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticForms] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34974 [15:56:44] kghbln: hello! Sorry, yes, I have time. [15:58:00] yaron no worries Should be a short one [15:58:57] I have added a multi-instance template Now I realise that the autocompletion does not seem to work in the corresponding form [15:59:18] Is this on a public wiki? [15:59:33] It should work, even for multiple-instance templates. [16:00:08] Ah, that's what I thought too, though I was not sure [16:00:22] Basically I am using {{{field|4|input type=text|values from category=Person}}} in the form [16:00:41] Ah! It should be "text with autocomplete". [16:01:00] ouch [16:01:17] I changed around the autocomplete syntax a while ago, but I think most people didn't really pay attention to the change at the time. [16:02:20] I guess so too. I just had a look. It documented, so I should have seen it [16:03:43] Well... there's a lot of syntax to read about, obviously. [16:04:09] In the main template I did not define the input time. Thus this one was working smooth [16:04:31] However, it is good to have all this functionality :9 [16:04:38] :) [16:05:36] Well... they say that every added feature comes with a cost - it's more for users to have to learn about, more code that needs to be written and maintained, more things that can cause confusion... [16:06:11] There's a tradeoff, obviously - code with no features is not going to be used by many people. :) [16:06:30] This is so very true! [16:07:28] I just removed the input type setting from the field definition. Works perfect. [16:07:38] Yay! [16:08:26] One hour ago I was not there for about 15 min. You know that happened? [16:08:50] No, what? [16:09:11] The postman delivered a parcel from amazon containing a book [16:09:23] Ooh... [16:09:31] He handed it over to a neighbour [16:09:54] This neighbour is away for today. :( [16:10:11] So I have to wait another long day. :( [16:10:19] Oh, that's too bad. [16:10:36] I don't understand - if the neighbor is away, how could he hand it to him? [16:10:37] I am currently about to kick my own bottom [16:11:23] The neighbor left half an hour later. Ten minutes after that I tried to retrieve it [16:11:38] Murhy's low I presume :( [16:11:38] Oh - that sucks. [16:11:52] Well - things could be worse. :) [16:11:55] low - law [16:12:00] Right. [16:12:18] thank you for trying to cheer me up [16:12:24] That was super-fast delivery, though - just two days! [16:13:28] I was amazed too. I got the notification that they sent it off just 10 hours after my order. Are you sure that this is a print on demand? [16:14:18] I don't know - everything Amazon does is mysterious to me. [16:14:42] So I am not the only one. [16:15:22] Or they are just very good. This would be impressive. [16:16:14] So thank you for you help anyway. Great to chat with you. [16:16:21] Yes - either that, or maybe they just have somebody in a wizard hat, doing magic spells in their basement. [16:16:49] No problem. I hope you get the book soon! [16:17:27] This should better happen sooner than later. This a cruel and unusual punishment for me. :) [16:25:27] would it somehow be a bad idea to have an extension to refresh pages after save where they contain eg. SIOs that are only available after save ? [16:31:04] nostriluu: if you're talking about a page that just queries and displays its own data, that already works correctly, no? [16:47:56] yaron, it seems like when i save a page with SIOs that try to set eg a summary value based on the 'latest' SIO it only accesses the previously saved data [16:51:14] Ah - so the issue is storing semantic data that's the result of a query of other semantic data? [16:57:40] well, pages A store SIOs S that on save are saved from a query for the 'latest' to property P. page B wants to show the latest P for each A, but it's never the latest until i refresh A [17:03:59] btw i'm using the nocache extension on B [17:10:26] nostriluu - I don't understand; where is P getting set? [17:12:25] from a query on SIOs, they have a date value so it assigns the latest one [17:15:28] Okay; sorry, I don't really understand. [17:16:05] But I'm surprised that a refresh would fix the problem, unless you're using the SemanticPurgeOnRefresh extension. [17:17:30] Oops, I mean SemanticUpdateOnPurge. [17:18:17] wow, google really had fun with that one. no i'm not. i was thinking that RefreshAfterSave (not Refresh After Shave) would solve my problem. trying to restate, if there are SIOs on a page, and a property based on the latest SIO is meant to be set on the page, it won't see the latest one since I presume they are created after the page itself is [17:21:09] Well, SMW actually does a refresh after a page save - what version of SMW are you using? [17:22:06] 1.7.1 [17:22:57] Hm, that should work. [17:23:32] I don't know - I still don't really understand what the query you're doing is; but then again I'm not really involved in SMW development, so I'm probably the wrong person to talk to about it. [17:26:08] well ok, i will keep poking at it and try SemanticUpdateOnPurge. merci beaucoup ! [20:05:09] Danwe_WMDE Heiya [20:05:39] kghbln: Hi! [20:05:44] Some spare secs for me? [20:05:54] sure ;) [20:06:03] Well ... ;) [20:06:45] I wrote you an e-mail about some open issues on tw.n some time ago. Did you get it? [20:07:51] you mean a message? I have to check for that, really don't look there very often [20:08:25] No it was an e-mail via the send e-mail action [20:08:51] I an not sure though if the e-mail-address you provided there is a current one. [20:09:00] I guess not. [20:09:00] umm, no I never got that one then. [20:10:04] Ouch, never mind. The world is still turning. May I re-send it to you now? [20:10:16] They also write about newsletters, not sure I ever got them either [20:11:01] kghbln: ok, I just searched my inbox and I got the mail... :-/ [20:11:16] 11/2? [20:11:25] jap [20:11:52] Ok, Ich habe mich um das plural afaik schon nach Köln gekümmert u. die message vollkommen entfernt [20:11:53] no worries. Still it would be cool if you had a peep at it some time sooner or later. [20:12:04] mal eben meinen log durchsehen [20:12:36] Dann bräucht ich den Status eingentlich nur noch auf erledigt setzen und fertig. [20:13:04] Das war allerdings nur eine von insgesamt vier Geschichten [20:13:12] onoez [20:13:18] kghbln: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/31748/ [20:13:24] It's an encrypted plot [20:14:03] JeroenDeDauw Heiya. Wanna pactice some German. :) [20:14:33] kghbln: nah, to busy learning other stuff [20:15:21] kghbln: if you want to poke Danwe_WMDE into doing something, I can always physically throw something at him :p [20:16:01] JeroenDeDauw I see. Still undecided if I would like this to happen. :D [20:16:01] kghbln: yeah, I saw those other issues, wrote some colleagues here at wikidata about that as well. I think I don't have much to do with those messages. [20:16:17] so how would I proceed? [20:16:23] can I send them to some other person somehow? [20:16:43] And I wonder why they were assigned to me in the first place [20:16:59] Danwe_WMDE Who did you ask? [20:17:13] I could reassign them to that person. [20:17:40] I think at least two of them are for John Erling Blad, the third probably as well. [20:17:45] It would be gread if you'd poke that person whilst I reassign. [20:18:03] Why not just move the whole lot to him. :) [20:18:33] One problem though. In case he has not account at tw.n I am kinda stuck [20:18:42] I can poke him [20:18:55] This would be great. [20:18:56] he has [20:19:17] http://translatewiki.net/wiki/User:Jeblad [20:19:46] I think that these tasks were assigned to you because Nemo knows that you are a Wikidata bloke [20:20:01] Good to know that he has. [20:20:06] I see [20:22:52] Danwe_WMDE I will have a look at these items now. I just saw that the first one was already dealt with. Will take me about 10 min. [20:34:55] yaron: book > 9000 yet? [20:45:52] Danwe_WMDE I just worked my way through these four. 2 were done in August, 1 just yesterday and 1 is still open which I reassigned to Jeblad. Will you just poke him for me. It's on his user page on tw.n now. [20:52:47] Danwe_WMDE Thank you for having a look at the semex issue, too (31748) [21:06:11] kghbln: Sure, I will poke him tomorrow, he's sitting on the opposite table ;) Thank you for looking at those wb issues! [21:06:59] Danwe_WMDE Great and doch nicht dafür :) [21:19:23] JeroenDeDauw: sadly, still no...