[16:10:50] Yaron: I can test again [16:10:59] Yaron: I also got green light for the search idea [16:11:38] Nikerabbit - that's awesome, about the search thing. [16:11:43] Sorry, test what? [16:12:04] Yaron: upload issue [16:12:27] Okay, awesome - yeah, please get the latest Git code for SF, if you can. [16:13:42] Yaron: CreateClass has bug: the labels are not attached to radio buttons (=clicking the label does not activate the radio) [16:14:35] Nikerabbit - oh; that's a bug in every radio button I've ever created, I think. :) [16:15:09] wow http://translatewiki.net/sw/Template:Upload [16:15:22] :( [16:15:43] This was created with Special:CreateClass? [16:15:50] yup [16:17:12] :( [16:17:24] Okay - I'll look into that. [16:17:35] ...and make the text labels be actual s. [16:19:40] Yaron: http://translatewiki.net/sw/Testa worked with chrome [16:20:28] Yaron: so it most likely is a fixed issue or duplicate with the IE bug [16:20:31] Whew. [16:20:58] Yeah, I think the issue was, it was an IE-only bug, that I tried to fix, and ended up making it fail across all browsers. [16:21:05] let me test with IE [16:22:35] Yaron: worked even with my IE [16:22:42] ah no it didn't [16:22:44] that wasn't IE [16:24:00] Yaron: yep IE is broken [16:24:10] Yaron: I'll mark it as a dupe [16:24:22] Alright. Well, that's somewhat of a relief. [16:24:27] Thanks for re-testing. [16:27:55] It would be great to talk about the search thing, too. [16:45:47] Nikerabbit - do you want to talk about search? [16:46:47] Yaron: yes, but I have conf in 13 minutes [16:46:58] Alright. [16:51:14] Yaron: if you want we could schedule a slot for next week, or just ping others until we find one [17:37:18] Yaron: is this related: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/20532/ ? [17:38:16] Nikerabbit - hm, maybe.... I mean, that stuff always worked in regular MediaWiki upload, no? [17:38:33] I think so [17:38:58] Yaron: seems that is related to url encoding [17:39:41] Maybe. [17:41:57] Nikerabbit - well, whenever you want to talk about the "filtered search" thing is fine with me. [17:55:30] New patchset: Yaron Koren; "Changed template creation to not print a field if field name is blank (how did this not happen before?)" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticForms] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21199 [17:55:59] Change merged: Yaron Koren; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticForms] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21199 [18:26:11] Yaron: hola again [18:26:22] Hello! [18:26:36] I am enabling a DISQUS comment widget on a page via template. [18:26:56] but here is the tricky part [18:27:13] Yaron: to put it short: my client wants search search that can be limited by category/semantic property and some niceties in the interface which are not yet clear [18:27:24] the template sets semantic properties at the top, then I allow free-form wikitext below the template, and then I would like the DISQUS comments to appear *below* the wikitext [18:27:49] I am not sure how to automatically add a template at the bottom of a page. Is there a way? [18:27:50] Nikrabbit - any details you can provide on the interface? [18:28:26] drobbins - you can put the "free text" input in the form between templates - I believe it will then show up that way in the generated page as well. [18:28:33] Yaron: nothing written down I think, I need to talk my collegaue (how do you spell that?) to write some spec [18:28:47] Alright - "colleague". [18:29:36] Yaron: currently using "Free text" - see this page: http://wiki.zenoss.org/ZenPack:OpenVZ [18:29:59] Yaron: not sure how I get comments enabled below the free text. [18:30:30] Yaron: the major decision could be whether we can modify the current search interface or just write a new one [18:30:31] As I said, change the form to have the free text between the relevant templates. [18:31:00] Nikerabbit - right; well, that depends in large part, I would think, on what you want the interface to look like. [18:31:08] I don't care :) [18:31:16] but freetext search is included in requirements [18:31:16] Yaron: ok, let me look and try to wrap my brain around this: so {{ZenPack}} free text here {{ZenPackFooter}} (something like this?) [18:31:25] Well, on what the client wants, then. :) [18:31:36] drobbins - no, I'm talking about changing the form. [18:31:37] but I will figure out what thhey want [18:31:56] just give me some more time [18:32:05] Alright, cool. [18:32:52] Yaron: the missing knowledge on my part is how to get the form to insert a template in the output. I am using {{for template|ZenPack}} for the ZenPack template. [18:33:11] drobbins - oh, I see. [18:33:35] You need to put in a second {{{for template}}} tag in the form definition, after the free text input. [18:33:51] ...for whatever template it is that holds the Disqus widget. [18:34:00] ok [18:34:07] `...assuming such a template exists. Otherwise, you have to create it. [18:37:30] Nikerabbit - I'm finally going through your SF comments, by the way, to make the necessary fixes: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/19422/1/specials/SF_CreateTemplate.php,unified [18:38:00] Most of them make sense, but - why is "$formatStr === $curSelection" better than "$formatStr == $curSelection"? [18:38:16] Yaron: I like explicit code [18:38:18] I know that's what some people say, but I don't really know why. [18:38:46] $foo == $bar forces me to think every corner case, what if $foo is null or $bar is bool [18:39:01] Ah - it's null vs. blank vs. false? [18:39:14] if you are not so picky about whether it is a string or integer, just cast them to same datatype and use === [18:39:23] Alright. [18:39:37] The problem is, I don't know if those values will always be blank vs. null, etc. [18:39:44] The inputs can come from different places. [18:40:03] I would ccast them to strings first then [18:40:09] Alright, I can do that. [18:40:45] My only other question is, when you say "message should be escaped", do you mean changing wfMsg() to wfMsgHtml()? [18:40:57] I asked you that exact question just a week or so ago, but now I don't remember the answer. [19:02:16] Nikerabbit - did you see my question? [19:15:20] Yaron: or if you can, use wfMessage( $key )->escaped() [19:15:33] wfMsgHtml has unexpected behaviour of not escaping parameters [19:17:49] Yaron: I have a question re: Widgets. [19:18:09] Yaron: trying to get it working on my site. I grabbed it from git... and it looks like the git code is not creating the namespaces automatically. [19:21:08] plop [19:23:48] Yaron: poke [19:45:04] JeroenDeDauw http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:SMW_-_Number_of_downloads [19:48:13] kghbln: nice graph [19:48:25] kghbln: I would like more emphassi on alternate methods though [19:48:40] You have git and svn [19:48:47] But also stuff such as Semantic Bundle and SMW+ [19:49:00] Yeah, but I do not have numbers on it [19:49:02] Plus now you can directly download releases using the tags on gitweb [19:49:05] or from my github [19:49:10] Sure [19:49:27] It should not replace the download page there you have it all [19:49:29] I just think the amount of downloads has gone up recently [19:49:36] Rather then having leveled as this graph suggests [19:50:31] Sure [19:50:35] Yes they did up in August. We will have a nice peak. Not talking about September [19:51:26] kghbln: either way, neat [19:51:36] First time I see the timeseries thing in action, very nice [19:52:18] A first for me. I did not even think of it. MWJames helped me out on this. Kudos to him making it possible [20:03:53] Nikerabbit - hello again! [20:04:10] Yes, Widgets on Git still doesn't work. [20:04:28] It's because it's using a new version of Smarty. [20:08:02] JeroenDeDauw I will add the SemanticBundle data soon. Found them on Google. [20:15:59] Yaron: hoi [20:16:07] Hello. [20:19:00] Yaron: anything specific or just greeting? [20:29:41] Nikerabbit: non-specific hoi terug [20:36:33] Nikerabbit - sorry, I missed this before. Was I supposed to respond to something? [20:39:27] Yaron: was I? [20:39:54] No, I don't think so... I tried wfMessage(...)->escapde(), and it worked. [20:53:40] is there any easy way to hide a sortkey in an #ask? [20:54:03] want to sort by it, but don't want to confuse people with a floating-point sortkey in a table. [20:57:23] drobbins - what's a sortkey? [20:57:50] returning a number for a date so it can be sorted on [20:58:06] I am trying to create a list of releases by date. [20:58:09] Oh, okay. [20:58:52] Yaron: re: widgets on git -- I am using it, and it is working for DISQUS. I manually defined the namespaces. [20:59:31] Yaron: I grabbed smarty from the Semantic Bundle and so far, it hasn't blown up. But it sounds like I should probably just use the released version. [20:59:47] Well, that must be why it worked. [20:59:52] :) [21:00:34] I mean, it's not working currently because of the new Smarty version. [21:00:46] I have had much better results by using stuff from git for smw [21:00:56] yep, noticed that. [21:01:28] see here: http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Type_Date#Sorting_dates_in_tabular_outputs [21:01:51] now, these are fine examples, but it does not cover the common case where you want stuff sorted, but you don't want the sortkey showing up in the table. [21:02:22] Yeah, I don't think there's a standard way to do that. [21:02:49] I think that the best way is probably some tweak to hide the sortkey column so the browser doesn't show it (but it's still there) [21:03:23] is there a way to explicitly pick the columns that display? guess not, eh? [21:04:18] Well, ideally you could do "sort=dateproperty#SORTKEY". [21:04:35] aha. [21:04:38] does that work? [21:05:00] I doubt it, but I don't know. [21:05:09] will try [21:07:44] nope, doesn't seem to work. [21:08:20] That's too bad. [21:09:42] I am also noticing another quirk with dates. [21:10:04] When I do an #ask and include a column for a date, and the date is not defined on the page, I get today's date, rather than nothing. [21:10:27] Maybe I am doing something wrong? [21:10:55] maybe missing a | in my template. [21:11:26] my template has Release date={{{Release date|}}} [21:11:58] removing the | seemed to fix it [21:14:55] still a newbie, not fully up to speed on | [21:16:30] New patchset: Yaron Koren; "Various fixes related to template creation" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticForms] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21269 [21:17:47] Change merged: Yaron Koren; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticForms] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21269 [21:32:43] New patchset: Mwjames; "SRF EventCalendar, a new calendar printer using jquery.fullcalendar" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21273 [21:38:41] New review: Yaron Koren; "Wow! This looks amazing." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21273 [21:53:17] is there any easy way to query "most recent release"? [22:07:47] drobbins - you mean, of MediaWiki extensions? [22:07:55] If so, no, unfortunately. [22:10:15] Yaron: I think that many things could be done with format=template for #ask for the time being. [22:10:38] at least for display. [23:41:52] New patchset: Mwjames; "SRF EventCalendar, a new calendar printer using jquery.fullcalendar" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21273 [23:54:46] New patchset: Mwjames; "Messages relevant for the SRF EventCalendar" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21302