[13:02:48] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Mwjames; "Fix queryprinter into/outro" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/18087
[13:10:50] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/18087
[13:30:48] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Yaron Koren; "Bug fix - special handling is needed for getHeadScripts() for MW 1.18" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticForms] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/18089
[13:31:25] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Yaron Koren; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticForms] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/18089
[13:32:56] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Yaron Koren; "Oops" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticForms] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/18090
[13:33:17] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Yaron Koren; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticForms] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/18090
[14:09:48] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Yaron Koren; "Another attempt to get SFUploadWindow to work for all MW versions >= 1.17" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticForms] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/18092
[14:24:42] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Yaron Koren; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticForms] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/18092
[15:13:47] <Nikerabbit>	 hi JeroenDeDauw and Yaron
[15:13:55] <Yaron>	 Hello!
[15:14:08] <Nikerabbit>	 can either one of you give any tips for multilingual semantic wikis (I'm supposed to convert one monolingual to multilingual)
[15:14:32] <Yaron>	 Well, there are different approaches.
[15:14:51] <Nikerabbit>	 let's assume single wiki database
[15:15:34] <Yaron>	 Is the idea to store semantic info in multiple languages, or just one?
[15:17:14] <Yaron>	 In other words, will there be a "master" language that holds the real data, or will that too be spread out across languages?
[15:21:34] <Nikerabbit>	 Yaron: for now the 'content' is in single language
[15:21:47] <Nikerabbit>	 there has been some talk for allowing creation of content in other languages to
[15:21:51] <Nikerabbit>	 too
[15:22:04] <Nikerabbit>	 but even being able to localise content display and data input would be helpful
[15:22:57] <Yaron>	 Nikerabbit - well, localizing display is easier than localizing input.
[15:23:17] <Yaron>	 Is the idea to have pages in the form "page name/language code"?
[15:24:23] <Nikerabbit>	 Yaron: nope
[15:24:48] <Nikerabbit>	 Yaron: our content are concept (term) entries
[15:26:26] <Nikerabbit>	 http://tieteentermipankki.fi/wiki/Kasvitiede:intiini
[15:27:10] <Nikerabbit>	 the displayed data is to some extend language independent, if we translate the labels and values
[15:29:17] <Yaron>	 Oh, so this is a Wiktionary-type thing?
[15:29:28] <Yaron>	 How many languages are involved, by the way?
[15:32:06] <Yaron>	 Oh, looks like six.
[15:33:04] <Yaron>	 Never mind - nine!
[15:33:35] <Yaron>	 I don't know... I think the only really workable option might be to have a separate wiki for each language, even though that seems like a lot of work.
[15:33:44] <Yaron>	 It'll probably actually be less work.
[15:34:04] <Yaron>	 You can just use the same code base, and a different DB, for each one.
[15:42:25] <Nikerabbit>	 Yaron: Finnish is the primary language, we might include Swedish and few others languages spoken in Finland
[15:42:58] <Nikerabbit>	 doesn't make sense to split the databases
[15:45:32] <Yaron>	 Nikerabbit - so how many languages altogether?
[15:59:01] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Nischayn22; "Implementation of new Special Property ASK" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (querycache) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17953
[16:00:55] <Nikerabbit>	 Yaron: only three or so languages with (maybe) primary content
[16:02:42] <Yaron>	 Nikerabbit - well, I would recommend just having the data stored in Finnish, and only displaying content in other languages.
[16:02:46] <Yaron>	 At least to start with.
[16:03:25] <Nikerabbit>	 Yaron: and how to best go with that?
[16:03:42] <Nikerabbit>	 is it possible to translate property names or values?
[16:04:35] <Yaron>	 Yes - there's some extension/parser function that lets you do that; I think it's called "MultiLang", or something like that.
[16:07:51] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Nischayn22; "fix minor bug" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/18100
[16:17:40] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Neat catch :)" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/18100
[16:17:40] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/18100