[00:36:06] <faceface>	 the problem with that solution is, I just want to take the user to the page once the form has been used to create the template.
[00:36:55] <faceface>	 did I forget about how to do this? I need to edit the default form I guess...
[00:57:30] <faceface>	 dang now I'm suffering basic problems again, adding the clause [[Ontology::EDAM]] to my query returns zero results, despite the fact that every SIO has the value of Ontology = EDAM
[00:57:39] <faceface>	 hello lerc
[00:58:59] <faceface>	 hey Yaron
[00:59:08] <faceface>	 I'm suffering basic problems again, adding the clause [[Ontology::EDAM]] to my query returns zero results, despite the fact that every SIO has the value of Ontology = EDAM
[01:00:12] <faceface>	 trying to get results with anything other than the clause [[Ontology term::+]] gives zero results ('Ontology term' is the 'SIO to page' property name).
[01:00:50] <faceface>	 i.e. this fails to return any results, and it should return one SIO: {{#ask: [[Ontology term::+]] [[Term ID::EDAM_topic:0080]] ...
[01:02:59] <faceface>	 dropping the [[Ontology term::+]] doesn't help, but I can see this property value (EDAM_topic:0080) set on the property page
[01:04:28] <faceface>	 Its a real pain to do complex stuff when the basics keep failing
[01:06:59] <faceface>	 [[Term::+]] works, [[Term::<some term>]] fails
[01:07:22] <faceface>	 (where the Property:Term page shows <some term>)
[01:08:36] <faceface>	 a weird leading space has crept in...
[01:08:51] <faceface>	 this is weird, cus I specifically excluded it to make the thing work
[01:09:09] * faceface  goes to update stuff...

[01:21:44] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Mwjames; "(bug 38229) Display default in list printer in case result set is empty, let's try again" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14661
[01:33:07] <Yaron>	 faceface - hi; are you still having that problem?
[01:43:37] <faceface>	 hi Yaron yup, I found the cause, another whitespace bug in SIO
[01:43:44] <faceface>	 (I think)...
[01:43:53] <faceface>	 I just updated and I'm investigating again
[01:44:46] <faceface>	 yeah, seems still to be problematic. Compare these two pages:
[01:44:52] <faceface>	 http://seqanswers.com/wiki/Special:SearchByProperty?title=Special%3ASearchByProperty&property=Ontology&value=+EDAM
[01:45:02] <faceface>	 http://seqanswers.com/wiki/Special:SearchByProperty?title=Special%3ASearchByProperty&property=Ontology&value=EDAM
[01:45:09] <faceface>	 Note the leading space on the first
[01:45:44] <faceface>	 SemanticInternalObjects/REL_0_6_8/
[01:46:05] <faceface>	 Yaron: note the 'x = y' != 'x=y' bug is still in effect in this version
[01:47:07] <Yaron>	 Ah, okay.
[01:48:00] <faceface>	 question is, can I just patch SIO up to 0.6.8 without worrying about deps?
[01:48:14] <faceface>	 I'm relying on SB to make sure all extensions play nice together
[01:49:00] <faceface>	 I suppose I can just try ...
[01:51:31] <faceface>	 Yaron: note the 'x = y' != 'x=y' bug is still in effect in 0.6.8
[01:51:43] <Yaron>	 Yeah, you said that.
[01:51:51] <faceface>	 no, I said 0.6.6 :-)
[01:52:00] <faceface>	 oh wait... sorry!
[01:52:19] <faceface>	 it's probably too late for me to be doing this :-)
[01:52:36] <Yaron>	 Right. :)
[01:52:42] <Yaron>	 Well, that's too bad - I'll look into it.
[01:53:03] <faceface>	 Yaron: the real issue is assigning the property ' EDAM', which can't be queried
[01:53:09] <Yaron>	 Instead of patching, though, you could just remove the spaces...
[01:53:13] <faceface>	 but I'm guessing it's related
[01:54:01] <faceface>	 Yaron: right, I'm just testing that in particular to get back to you on the 'I think I fixed it' comment, and because I want to make an edit to the template and save it to 'kick' the cache after updating
[01:54:38] <faceface>	 I'll remove all the spaces from my template call to see if it fixes the main issue
[02:04:03] <faceface>	 right
[02:04:34] <faceface>	 worked now that {{{1}}} returns 'edam' and presumably not ' edam '... I guess
[02:04:41] <faceface>	 bbl
[02:33:03] <faceface>	 gah, updating broke... I didn't notice
[02:33:22] <faceface>	 Yaron: while saving a form: Fatal error: Call to undefined method OutputPage::addModules() in /home/seqadmin/seqanswers.com/w/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_Utils.php on line 302
[02:33:36] <faceface>	 is that something in MW > 1.16?
[02:33:43] <Yaron>	 Ah - yes.
[02:33:53] <Yaron>	 That version of SF requres MW 1.17.
[02:34:01] <faceface>	 don't suppose you know which version of forms that came in on?
[02:34:11] <Yaron>	 It's in the version history... I don't remember.
[02:35:26] <faceface>	 put my extensions dir under git vc and took a branch, so I can revert... seems the real error I was facing isn't fixed in latest anyhow
[02:35:42] <faceface>	 git is so nice
[02:47:56] <faceface>	 night
[02:48:00] <faceface>	 thanks for help Yaron
[02:48:15] <faceface>	 hope bug reports were useful, and not just a pain in the neck
[02:48:18] <Yaron>	 Yeah, sure...
[04:32:35] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Mwjames; "(bug 38184) Add new gallery output format slideshow - slideshow is using jquery.responsiveslides.js - Add parameter class - Add parameter navigation ('auto', 'pager', 'nav')" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14670
[04:38:09] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Mwjames; "(bug 38184) Add new gallery output format slideshow - slideshow is using jquery.responsiveslides.js - Add parameter class - Add parameter navigation ('auto', 'pager', 'nav')" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14670
[05:36:18] <havvy>	 Anybody from Referata here?
[06:25:37] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Nischayn22; "Removing length restriction for Strings" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (storerewrite) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14612
[08:21:31] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Raimond Spekking; "BOM?" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14614
[13:24:16] <havvy>	 o/ Yaron.
[13:24:35] <Yaron>	 Hello!
[13:26:03] <havvy>	 Referata could really do with an IRC channel. :P
[13:26:27] <Yaron>	 Er... I'm not sure how much traffic it would get. :)
[13:26:50] <Yaron>	 This seems like a good one for Referata-related stuff, anyway.
[13:27:07] <Yaron>	 I'm working now on restoring rights for you.
[13:27:33] <havvy>	 Thanks.
[13:44:40] <havvy>	 Any chance of getting an automatic rollback of wiki pages?
[13:45:38] <Yaron>	 havvy - there's no ideal tool for doing a rollback, unfortunately.
[13:46:09] <havvy>	 :(
[13:46:26] <havvy>	 And based on the email, also difficult to get IP addresses.
[13:46:29] <Yaron>	 havvy - the best tool at the moment, though it's not ideal, is this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:John254/mass_rollback.js
[13:46:40] <Yaron>	 You just need to add that to MediaWiki:Common.js.
[13:47:20] <Yaron>	 Of course, even having an IP address wouldn't necessarily give you the whole story.
[13:48:06] <havvy>	 Not necessarily, but it very well could.
[13:48:29] <Yaron>	 Yeah, maybe.
[13:48:43] <Yaron>	 Actually, that JS script might not work in this case.
[13:48:58] <Yaron>	 It looks like it doesn't do rollbacks of deletions.
[13:49:40] <havvy>	 Seeing the deletion log doesn't have rollbacks, it will not work.
[13:51:46] <havvy>	 It does have view/restore though.
[13:52:40] <havvy>	 Which unfortunately requires another action.
[15:02:41] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (storerewrite) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14612
[16:50:27] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14661
[16:53:02] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Neat." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master); V: 0 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14670
[17:13:43] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Nischayn22; "Using interface not abstract classes" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (storerewrite) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14679
[17:13:53] <nischayn22>	 JeroenDeDauw: Next I am going to put Store3 in master
[17:23:45] <JeroenDeDauw>	 nischayn22: sure
[17:24:13] <JeroenDeDauw>	 nischayn22: beware that tomorrow I'm heading to Wikimania for a week
[17:24:21] <JeroenDeDauw>	 So will not be very responsive probably
[17:24:36] <nischayn22>	 JeroenDeDauw: Actually the names are confusing  - Store3 and Store
[17:25:00] <nischayn22>	 JeroenDeDauw: that means no code review, I doubt Markus ever looked at my code :p
[17:26:18] <JeroenDeDauw>	 nischayn22: I probably will have _some_ time, but no promises
[17:26:39] <JeroenDeDauw>	 nischayn22: and you can always rage to markus till he actually looks at the code :)
[17:26:43] <nischayn22>	 JeroenDeDauw: for how many days are you going?
[17:26:56] <JeroenDeDauw>	 One week or so
[17:27:01] <JeroenDeDauw>	 5 days event + travel
[17:27:53] <nischayn22>	 okay
[17:28:18] <nischayn22>	 JeroenDeDauw: I have to ask Markus for grants for SMWCon too
[17:28:28] <nischayn22>	 lots of to rage at him :D
[17:29:13] <JeroenDeDauw>	 nischayn22: such events are always nice to poke people into doing something yes :)
[17:30:50] <nischayn22>	 JeroenDeDauw: about Maps, I was asking if there is a way for my extension to generate wikitext for Maps?
[17:31:05] <nischayn22>	 instead of HTML I need to generate a tag for Maps
[17:34:11] <JeroenDeDauw>	 nischayn22: Semantic Maps hooks into Semantic Forms to add some nice (but limited) map input tool
[17:34:22] <JeroenDeDauw>	 nischayn22: the latest version of Maps also has a GUI editor on a special page
[17:34:28] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Special:CreateMap or so
[17:34:38] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Which you can feed and make output wikitext
[17:34:45] <JeroenDeDauw>	 But that one is not really integrated at all
[17:34:47] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Why?
[17:36:34] <nischayn22>	 I didn't get you
[17:36:51] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (storerewrite) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14679
[17:44:29] <nischayn22>	 JeroenDeDauw: final call for new store be Store3 or just SQLStore ??
[17:44:33] <nischayn22>	 in master
[17:47:24] <JeroenDeDauw>	 nischayn22: you know my opinion on the subject :)
[17:47:39] <nischayn22>	 JeroenDeDauw: cool, same is mine :D
[17:54:49] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Yaron Koren; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticForms] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14617
[19:45:56] <CIA-92>	 raymond * r115598 /trunk/extensions/ (25 files in 25 dirs): Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net.
[22:27:58] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Yaron Koren; "Fix for Ia3112b96a19b87cfbbfc54efc4385c7cc922efdc - got addErrorMessage() working again" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticForms] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14749
[22:33:39] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Yaron Koren; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticForms] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14749
[23:34:09] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Mwjames; "(bug 38184) Add new gallery output format slideshow - slideshow is using jquery.responsiveslides.js - Add parameter class - Add parameter navigation ('auto', 'pager', 'nav')" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14670
[23:37:28] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Mwjames; "(bug 38184) Add new gallery output format slideshow - slideshow is using jquery.responsiveslides.js - Add parameter class - Add parameter navigation ('auto', 'pager', 'nav')" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14670
[23:40:18] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Mwjames; "BOM issue should be solved now" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14670