[00:00:37] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11966 [00:00:38] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "New registration system for parameter types" [mediawiki/extensions/Validator] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11967 [00:00:39] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11966 [00:00:52] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Validator] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11967 [00:00:54] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Validator] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11967 [00:04:32] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Fix notice when using OpenLayers and added fixme for badly placed code" [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11968 [00:04:46] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11968 [00:04:48] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11968 [00:11:04] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "docs++" [mediawiki/extensions/Validator] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11970 [00:33:47] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Allow having parameter types that are not registered and can thus only be used by instantiating their class directly" [mediawiki/extensions/Validator] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11971 [00:34:11] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "fix parameter types" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMaps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11972 [00:34:19] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Validator] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11970 [00:34:21] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Validator] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11970 [00:34:34] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMaps] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11972 [00:34:36] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMaps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11972 [00:34:49] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Validator] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11971 [00:34:52] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Validator] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11971 [05:37:28] so it was actually Semantic InternalObjects that needed updating ... looks like most things are now working with new versions [05:37:46] a small "package manager" to handle all the plugins would be an interesting toy [07:38:42] New patchset: Netbrain; "Changed mapeditor to export with syntax display_map" [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11976 [07:39:29] New review: Netbrain; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11976 [07:44:59] New patchset: Netbrain; "improved gui on searchmarkers" [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11846 [07:46:02] New review: Netbrain; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11846 [10:49:49] New patchset: Netbrain; "Changed mapeditor to export with syntax display_map" [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11976 [10:50:23] New review: Netbrain; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11976 [12:51:25] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added support for using the google js api key to increase map and geocoding limits" [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11991 [13:02:27] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Updated release notes" [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11993 [13:12:11] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11991 [13:12:16] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11991 [13:12:38] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11993 [13:12:43] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11993 [13:38:58] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "No need to +1 your own stuff :)" [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11976 [13:39:00] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11976 [13:41:27] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11846 [13:41:55] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Can be merged when conflict has been resolved :)" [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11846 [13:52:14] New patchset: Netbrain; "improved gui on searchmarkers" [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11846 [14:00:40] New patchset: Netbrain; "Added missing features to release notes" [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11998 [14:02:14] New patchset: Netbrain; "Added missing features to release notes" [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11998 [14:03:30] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Fix compatibility with SMW 1.8 alpha" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticCompoundQueries] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12000 [14:04:38] Yaron: Y U NO APPROVE? https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/12000/ [14:05:11] Uh... what? [14:05:21] What am I supposed to do here? [14:05:47] hmm, I'm having trouble getting the query in this template to work: http://wiki.techinc.nl/index.php?title=Template:EventList&action=edit >> If there is a result it's displayed but with a warning. otherwise the warning is displayed in the table itself: http://wiki.techinc.nl/index.php/Events [14:06:01] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11846 [14:06:03] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11846 [14:06:45] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11998 [14:06:48] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11998 [14:07:04] Yaron: look at the change [14:07:08] And if it's good [14:07:10] Aprove it [14:07:28] Login to gerrit if you're not yet [14:07:32] Click the diff thing [14:07:36] And when checked [14:07:38] Click review button [14:07:45] And +2 and +1 it [14:07:55] And then click the second button at the bottom\ [14:08:39] JeroenDeDauw - okay, thanks for the instructions. Unfortunately, I don't remember my username/password.. [14:08:43] hmm, either of you any clue about the errors I mentioned? ^ [14:08:51] * dreamer gives Yaron keepass or lastpass [14:09:00] dreamer - ?? [14:09:23] so you don't have to remember your passwords :) [14:09:24] Anyway, I looked at your query thing - there's clearly an error in your syntax somewhere. [14:09:36] New patchset: Netbrain; "added even more missing features and improvements" [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12001 [14:09:43] Ah, okay. [14:11:41] I don't get how it can give a result even though it doesn't understand the query .. [14:14:01] Well, it understands most of the query. [14:17:06] Yaron: well get a new password then :p Else you can't approve the stuff [14:17:14] then it understands more than me -_- [14:17:41] JeroenDeDauw - I just logged in. [14:17:43] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12001 [14:17:45] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12001 [14:18:01] dreamer - I might be able to look into this later, once I take care of this commit thing. [14:18:27] Yaron: wtf, it's fixed o.O [14:18:39] I removed the ask and this time it displays all the entries correctly [14:18:52] Oh... does that count as a fix? [14:19:08] (I had put the #ask because it wasn't displaying them as a list correctly [14:19:23] Oh, you had an #ask within the query template? [14:19:25] well, it seems to have worked o.O [14:19:28] yes [14:19:35] Alright. [14:19:49] Well, if you didn't need, then I guess that's fine. [14:20:06] don't know what changed that it doesn't need it anymore .. [14:20:09] anyway: good :) [14:20:17] now I can go back to #dayjob [14:21:34] hi nischayn22 [14:21:49] sumanah: Hey [14:22:01] welcome to #semantic-mediawiki :) [14:22:12] JeroenDeDauw - it looks like it's already been reviewed - do I still need to review it? [14:22:24] nischayn22: Thanks! I thought of you because I mentioned Secretaribot to someone recently, and because of the SMWCon announcement. Will you be going? [14:22:49] sumanah: Are the dates decided? [14:23:04] nischayn22: yes. http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/SMWCon_Fall_2012_to_be_held_in_Cologne,_Germany Cologne (K�ln), Germany on October 24-26, 2012 [14:23:52] Yeah, SMWCon in Deutschland. [14:24:07] sumanah: I am not sure now, it will depend on college dates [14:24:09] Lydia_WMDE: I bet you're gonna be there, right? :-) [14:24:19] New review: Yaron Koren; "Looks good." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticCompoundQueries] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12000 [14:24:21] Change merged: Yaron Koren; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticCompoundQueries] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12000 [14:24:26] I mean if something important happens on those days I won't be able to go [14:24:38] nischayn22: I urge you to try to get some kind of exception or dispensation or something, move the dates of your exams, if necessary, etc. [14:24:48] sumanah: not sure yet - Denny_WMDE and I haven't talked about it yet [14:25:22] sumanah: move the dates of exams? I don't think that's easily possible [14:25:46] nischayn22: Meeting your open source community, especially your mentors, is very important. If the SMW community cannot fund your travel, apply here for another chance: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Participation:Support [14:25:53] sumanah: but i assume someone of the team will be there [14:26:25] sumanah: yes, I know. I myself want to be there [14:26:45] nischayn22: there are colleges and teachers who give exams separately in cases where students had to miss the original dates, due to travel, illness, etc. [14:26:57] so, not easily possible, but possible. [14:27:54] nischayn22: I'm not on the Semantic MediaWiki mailing lists and I find their archives hard to navigate.... have you been emailing there, or posting to the smw wiki or something like that, to talk about your progress? [14:28:28] JeroenDeDauw - cool! I did the review/merge, then updated the code on Referata, and now all the SMW stuff on Referata seems to be working fine again. [14:28:44] sumanah: No, I am not mailing progress, instead I blog about it [14:28:55] Yaron: you just unlocked the gerrit badge! :) [14:29:07] Yay! #levelone [14:29:25] sumanah: greensmw.wordpress.com, they are rather short though, since nobody reads them :P [14:29:41] nischayn22: oh, I see! you should get it onto the Planet aggregator, then more people would read them [14:29:41] http://en.planet.wikimedia.org/ [14:29:49] nischayn22: and if there is an SMW planet, there too [14:30:09] sumanah: nischayn22: oh, not seen that announcement yet :p [14:30:15] sumanah: I have made a request for it [14:30:34] nischayn22 - I'm reading that blog now - cool! [14:30:46] Yaron: cool really? [14:31:11] Well, it's cool that you're blogging it, and the progress seems good too. [14:31:13] nischayn22: idea for a thing to blog about every week: 1) what you learned/what surprised you 2) link to the new code [14:31:48] I have to dash off to a meeting, sorry [14:31:52] sumanah: I will definitely blog more [14:31:53] thanks for the update, good luck [14:31:57] Thanks! [14:31:59] sumanah: thanks [14:32:03] nischayn22 - in the top sentence, shouldn't it be "on every page write", not "on every page read"? [14:32:38] Yaron: oh yes, I am a poor writer [14:32:42] now editing it [14:33:07] Cool. Well, the rest looks good. [14:36:54] I should also write that on sm.org too [14:51:46] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/10852 [14:51:49] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/10852 [15:24:47] hi [15:24:58] any featured project running smw? [15:46:14] Juandev. Yes, see here: http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Wiki_of_the_Month And yes, companies are amongst them too. [15:49:00] Usually companies tend to use another cms than MediaWiki since they do not want people to edit their website and because it it not as easy to make MediaWiki as colourful/appealing as with other cms [15:49:30] It depends on the purpose, which cms to choose. Cheers [15:51:16] kghbln: great [15:51:36] kghbln: I see [18:02:31] Yaron: I remembered you are new to Gerrit, you might want to keep http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Workflow always at hand ;) [18:02:46] Thanks. [18:03:14] :) [18:04:18] wow so many views on my blog today :) [18:44:18] nischayn22: over 9000? [18:44:39] JeroenDeDauw: I am happy for 20 [18:46:14] JeroenDeDauw: 2 are from your Tweet I think [18:48:41] nischayn22 I forgot your blog was there. Last time I had a look was about 2 months ago. At least one is from the discussion here in this channel. I subscribed to your feed. So I will have the information first it is there. [18:48:55] :) [18:49:19] kghbln: Cool, that motivates me to do more documentation and ofc better [18:49:44] I am really looking forward to the progress the project makes. :) [18:50:40] :) [18:50:45] Hopefully it will be somehow completed once the time is up with GSoC [18:51:15] However, I guess there is lots of things to be done. Keeping fingers crossed. :) [18:51:51] kghbln: My project doesn't have much of targets like other projects have, every week Markus and I talk to address some issue that might improve performance [18:52:55] Ah I see. So partial progress will do a world of good, too. My server is not the strongest. So I have a personal interest in here, too. ;) [18:52:58] and I would contribute after GSoC too (also looking forward to GSoC'13 :-) [18:53:12] No objections from me [18:53:19] + support [18:54:20] kghbln: yes, and every change I do I try to keep things compatible, so my development branch still works fine [18:54:30] after each commit [18:54:56] though there is always a need for updating the data [18:55:34] which I don't think we can overcome that easily, mwjames mentioned that it took 3 days to update his wiki [18:57:51] Cool. Usually I update the data too after each upgrade. One wiki I control has about 1,300,000 property values and it takes about 15 hours. So I really believe that it takes that long for MWJames [18:58:40] Thought updating depends more on the complexity of the template and its interconnected data [18:59:15] there was a user here who mentioned that he updates daily or so, God help him :) [19:00:09] Still performance on editing is a bigger issue, because this is there the users are confronted with smw. The background stuff does not bother them so much. [19:00:54] kghbln: when my work will be released updating will be a must since I am changing the DB too much, but that is inevitable [19:00:59] I would like to do it once a week, but I cannot do this. So I wait up to 10 week [19:01:48] Yeah, with every branch there will probably a schema change. No worries about this. [19:01:50] kghbln: Right, The users shouldn't know about it :) [19:02:18] agree [19:06:18] kghbln: Any framework or package like SMW in general for any PHP site you know of? [19:06:35] something that is not MW dependent [19:09:25] You mean some other semantic approaches like smw? [19:09:58] yes, something that could be used in any site not just a wiki [19:12:05] Have a look http://semanticweb.org/wiki/Main_Page It should be documented there too. I think that some drupalers try to do something like this. I have not looked into this in detail though. I am a 100% smw person. :) Probably any good cms should look for a way into the semantic web [19:13:43] I was thinking there should be a package so it could be used with any site (not based on a cms), but Drupal is highly used so its also a good place [19:16:09] Ah, no idea if there is a package like this. Then it comes to Drupal Samuel Lampa is the one to ask about their progress over there. I am sure you know him at least through twitter. [19:17:34] Actually Wordpress and Typo3 should have some semantics to them too. Still I am speculating here. [19:18:00] I don't use twitter that much [19:18:38] I think Samuel has a user page on smw.o too. [19:21:00] Hmm, Markus does maintain a lot of stuff [19:21:13] http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Samuel_Lampa [19:21:30] Yes, Markus is one to ask, too. [20:12:22] do you guys known how to fix an issue when having two compound map queries on the same page? maps dpesnt show. only permits one. [20:23:43] New patchset: Yaron Koren; "3rd attempt at a Git commit" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticForms] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12097 [20:25:24] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticForms] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12097 [20:25:26] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticForms] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12097 [20:28:32] I just made my first MediaWiki Git/Gerrit commit, yay. [20:36:16] do you guys known how to fix an issue when having two compound map queries on the same page? maps dpesnt show. only permits one. [20:36:24] http://www.wikirio.com/Theatro_Municipal [20:40:18] Yaron: Congratulations! :P [20:40:44] Ftrott - hopefully you will have similar good news at some point. :) [20:41:01] :) [20:41:17] JeroenDeDauw - did you see Edgard_WikiRio 's question? [20:41:31] Edgard_WikiRio: JeroenDeDauw should know [20:41:41] Arrrg [20:41:41] There you go. [20:41:48] Where does it now show? [20:41:56] And what versions of the extensions? [20:43:49] not new versions, because i'm still on 1.16 of mediawiki [20:44:15] Well, you should upgrade. [20:44:53] when i use only one, goes fine. but two, shows two gray screens (that should have the map) saying "loading map" [20:46:23] Yaon, congrats for whatever that is... :) [20:46:52] Thanks - so, how do you feel about upgrading your code? [20:47:35] can try, if it works for 1.16 [20:47:44] Why can't you upgrade MediaWiki? [20:49:58] New patchset: Yaron Koren; "Fixed creation of dates array when 'template' param is used" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12103 [20:50:23] i actually dont do the upgrades. i have two people that does that for me, and they advised me to wait for 1.20. i could upgrade. i dont see why not. just listen for devices from more mediawiki experts. but if your guys says it should be good... [20:50:52] the thing is that semantics is really important for my wiki [20:51:07] Well, I believe you need at least MW 1.17 to use the latest SMW and the rest. [20:51:20] So I would upgrade now, if the maps issue is important. [20:51:41] Yeah, just update to 1.19 [20:51:45] No reason to wait [20:51:54] And the longer you wait, the more issues you'll have [20:52:01] Waiting makes migration harder [20:52:08] yeah it is... this website started as a hobby, but its getting really big in rio de janeiro [20:52:26] thanks guys. i'll see about that [20:58:04] JeroenDeDauw Still there? I got some awkward message from chatzilla O_o [20:58:42] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12103 [20:58:42] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12103 [21:08:33] kghbln: yeah [21:08:37] kghbln: what message? [21:09:45] JeroenDeDauw Some awkward one from DCC, who or whatever this is. I guess everything is cool now. :) [21:16:57] can you guys recommend a person that doesn mediawiki upgrades? [21:27:49] Edgard_WikiRio: wikiworks [21:29:41] nice [21:30:05] and has jeroen and yaron there. pretty good [21:42:28] Edgard_WikiRio - so, you want a full upgrade? What about the two people who can upgrade your code? [21:43:30] yaron, i trust you guys. the only thing that would matter now is the price for the upgrade. if we agree with that, i dont see why i should not work with you guys. [21:43:54] Alright. [21:45:05] i already sent the email with the description of what i have. just reply back if you need something else. [21:45:16] i mean, more information [21:48:21] Alright - yeah, I'll respond. [21:50:04] i think i should get another hosting from hostgator to work there and change my domain DNS when its ready [21:50:25] or not :) [21:57:48] New patchset: Mwjames; "(bug 37724) tagcloud, add extra class support" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12112 [22:07:37] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12112 [23:45:25] New patchset: Mwjames; "(bug 37721) Add new result printer listwidget" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (result-printer-listwidget) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12128