[02:22:07] <bonsaikitten>	 "fail on errors" is an intriguing new concept ... it has surprising implications ;)
[07:21:09] <netbrain>	 Hey guys, how can i use a standar-input-text|free-text field both above and below the form template?
[07:21:33] <netbrain>	 As it is now, it just duplicates the last input field value above and below the form.
[07:21:55] <netbrain>	 is standard-input-text|free-text not supposed to specified more than once?
[07:22:58] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Nischayn22; "added hash checks on data update" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (storerewrite) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/10706
[08:56:03] <bonsaikitten>	 hrm. this is annoying - is there any way to have a query that shows all pages of category foo that do *not* have a property set?
[10:09:16] <bonsaikitten>	 and is there a way to get a query that lists all pages that have property X and start with "abc" ?
[10:09:20] <bonsaikitten>	 (prefix)
[14:37:29] <Yaron>	 bonsaikitten - no, unfortunately; if you're using a template, though, you can have the template set some other property if that value is blank.
[14:39:04] <bonsaikitten>	 Yaron: so in other words SMW is unusable if you ever have more than 10k pages? ;)
[14:39:13] <bonsaikitten>	 sigh, raw database fuckery it is then.
[14:39:29] <Yaron>	 I... have no idea what you're talking about.
[14:54:14] <bonsaikitten>	 there's a few hardcoded limits
[14:54:45] <bonsaikitten>	 so, if I have >10k matches, even with offset and display only 100 at a time it silently truncates at 10000 and pretends nothing happened
[14:55:06] <bonsaikitten>	 which means that I have no clean way to work on a large amount of articles apart from stabbing around in the DB
[15:00:16] <Yaron>	 bonsaikitten - what does that have to do with my answer to your question?
[15:01:30] <Yaron>	 (Also, you can get the entire set of results using formats like CSV, I believe.)
[15:01:51] <bonsaikitten>	 Yaron: it'll still be cut off
[15:01:58] <bonsaikitten>	 but yeah, CSV is nice
[15:02:17] <Yaron>	 Your use of "So in other words" still confuses me.
[15:02:28] <bonsaikitten>	 since I can't do a "negative query" I have to fetch everything and then filter out everything that has the property
[15:02:47] <bonsaikitten>	 and that's too many results, which just silently truncates, which is horribly wrong
[15:03:08] <bonsaikitten>	 but then most of MW seems to prefer "return SOMETHING instead of admitting an error, even if it makes no sense at all"
[15:03:11] <Yaron>	 I see - I guess you're not using template, then.
[15:03:31] <bonsaikitten>	 won't help me anyway
[15:03:47] <bonsaikitten>	 even if I add a new property I'd have to walk over all pages
[15:03:57] <bonsaikitten>	 it's an infinite regression of badness ;)
[15:05:24] <Yaron>	 If you were using templates already, it actually wouldn't be that hard, but I guess it's a moot point.
[15:05:56] <Yaron>	 (You would just have to edit one template, and the changes would automatically propagate everywhere.)
[15:18:34] <bonsaikitten>	 I doubt that
[15:18:45] <bonsaikitten>	 but I'll see if that's an option
[18:58:26] <CIA-92>	 raymond * r115513 /trunk/extensions/ (19 files in 19 dirs): Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net.
[20:11:30] <CIA-92>	 siebrand * r115514 /trunk/extensions/ (341 files in 335 dirs): Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net.
[23:20:43] <kghbln>	 Yaron1 I just worked on the Admin Links page. I hope I got it right.
[23:21:36] <Yaron1>	 I hope so too.
[23:22:05] <kghbln>	 Perhaps I ask JeroenDeDauw to check.
[23:22:58] <kghbln>	 One disturbing thing about Gerrit are these monsterous links O_o
[23:23:53] <kghbln>	 I guess someone will detect an error quite soon. Admin Links is a popular extension