[09:11:05] I have locked myself out of moma.miraheze.org/wiki [09:12:27] I am the owner of it. I have logout out but the login has disappeared from the footer. I am playing with a new skin Tweeki and I can't see any lonin options now please help [09:12:54] no login available [09:41:35] dmehus please can you help me using your Stewards rights? [09:43:19] I think if you could switch the skin back to default it would solve my problem and I could login again [11:03:53] dmehus plese ignore my request. I have resolved my issue [11:08:46] Or don't ignore it completely 😛 There seems to be an issue with Tweeki, causing the login link to not show up in the footer when logged out. By default, when logged out Tweeki should use MediaWiki:Tweeki-footer-custom (according to https://tweeki.kollabor.at/wiki/Footer_Examples which should include a login link but it doesn't.) [11:08:46] [ Footer Examples - Tweeki ] - tweeki.kollabor.at [11:09:48] But it might be better to create a phab for the issue. [11:12:04] There seems to have been a phab created for it back in 2019 but it was declined. https://phabricator.miraheze.org/T4138 [11:12:05] [ ⚓ T4138 a few tweeks to my tweeki skin localsettings.php file ] - phabricator.miraheze.org [11:14:42] due to no response. [11:39:21] Made a phab: https://phabricator.miraheze.org/T7320 [11:39:21] [ ⚓ T7320 Tweeki not showing login link in Footer when logged out ] - phabricator.miraheze.org [11:52:48] Unsure how many people use the skin, but I can see why this could cause issues for those that do. [11:53:13] As was apparent in Rosies case. [13:03:05] * hispano76 greets [13:20:12] @Blackwolfe do you have an example wiki? [13:20:26] I used Tweeki in the past (but the wiki was deleted) [13:21:23] The example wiki would be https://moma.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page (Rosies wiki), if an example of this being bugged. [13:21:23] [ MOMA ] - moma.miraheze.org [13:23:37] Since Rosie was the one running across the issue. [13:26:36] Hmmmm [13:26:49] weird [13:27:00] but you can place the login link on other places as well [13:27:14] (in the sidebar, sub-navbar or the navbar) [14:04:59] @dmehus dm, I'd like to discuss something [14:06:23] Yeah, that is a possibility ofc. [14:06:29] @Rosie MOMA [14:08:03] I guess it depends on how many people use the skin. Someone less experienced that also might not be on the discord might not consider that and it might keep people who would otherwise want to contribute to a wiki away if they find themselves unable to login. [14:08:21] Which is mostly why I made the phab. [14:14:28] @Peppermint Patty, okay, looking [14:31:53] hello [14:34:33] Wb [14:56:52] thanks [14:59:57] * RhinosF1 had very little to do with it [15:05:02] Just letting anyone With Global Lock perms When you get a chance Moviepedia has tons of Bot Spam accounts to be locked [15:14:50] does anyone know if its Allowed for WIki permissions to be Reset to Default? [15:19:07] or is there a way i can Reset them on my end to default? [15:19:36] Regarding the locks, I'll take a look at `moviepediawiki`'s spambots later, but I think you do have an abuse filter that blocks ost of them. Regarding the other question, what do you mean by "allowed for wiki" permissions? [15:19:42] xd [15:19:48] what are you trying to do (re: the latter)? [15:20:46] is it possible i can reset permissions from when i first got the wiki like to Default permissions [15:32:56] Yes we can do that [15:37:35] Cocopuff2018, ah, yep, that can be done with a Phabricator task [15:37:48] System administrators have a script they can run, I believe [15:38:31] Oki might need it but it looks like i may of cleaned up these permissions myself, also does this scrip also delete Groups that no longer exist aswell that are still on there account? [15:39:58] I believe it would reset your ManageWiki/permissions to the default permissions, so yeah, it likely would [15:40:29] but yeah, you can also reset your groups manually against https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:ManageWikiDefaultPermissions/groupname [15:40:30] [ Manage a wikifarm's default permissions - Miraheze Meta ] - meta.miraheze.org [15:40:40] Cocopuff2018: if their still on an account, no but there's also a script for emptying user groups [16:11:09] Thinking about it now... would be possible to donate hardware to Miraheze? [16:11:25] Idk, maybe like a SSD [16:21:09] +b [16:21:46] Opss, what kind of hardware is it even? [16:21:55] @Lake: not very as we lease everything [16:24:58] Today i will attempt to connect irc feed to discord [16:33:44] Though it may be worth considering owning hardware, as dedis have proven their worth, but similar to VPS', we've hit the service limitation wall [16:34:48] @JohnLewis By any chance Better Search Engine can be something that Miraheze can buy? [16:36:25] Better Search Engine? [16:36:30] i believe i mentioned it in another channel but Miraheze's search engine does not run as fast [16:37:07] Like make it go faster [16:37:39] What kinda servers do you use? [16:37:42] There's alternative software that can be used, but I'm no longer a part of SRE [16:38:05] i just use Goolge search console [16:40:10] JohnLewis, true, yeah [16:40:32] I find Miraheze was being very slow [16:41:18] Just fyi do not recommend Bing for you're wiki content, It kinda messes up and Duplicates the results [16:41:41] BurningPrincess1, that's a variety of things, I suspect-high demand from an increasing number of users and also some servers use HDDs versus SSDs, which would improve performance SPF|Cloud said, but does come at a steep cost [16:42:19] dmehus: What VPSes/DSes does Mirahesze use [16:42:26] * dmehus is pretty sure he spelled steep incorrectly [16:42:30] Tbh We gonna use up all of our funds one of these days ): [16:42:58] BurningPrincess1, OVH for most; RamNode hosts a backup db server, I believe. We also have cp3 that is paid for by Wikimedia Indonesia [16:44:10] cp3 is DigitalOcean [16:44:14] i wanted to say i am glade i am able to come back to wikis without being attacked, A good 6 month break really did the Trick [16:44:36] that's cool, Cocopuff2018 :) [16:44:57] now the only issue your wiki has is the usual run-of-the-mill spambots [16:45:56] i rather the spam accounts then the "Cocopuff is a homophobic" accounts , By the way i think it was ek Behind it [16:46:37] dmehus: Are you using the most costly ramnode vps/ds? [16:49:01] @dmehus looks like i was able to reset all those user groups manually. [16:52:29] I mean OVH sorry [16:52:31] tbh Demehus the spam accounts tend to only generate when i make edits on the wiki.... [17:02:58] One very extreme merese could be lock down editing to allowed users only [17:03:17] Or see if abuse filter can help block the, [17:06:22] Dmehus been Silent for at least 20 mins [17:06:30] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Combating_spam - mtry stuff here [17:06:30] [ Manual:Combating spam - MediaWiki ] - www.mediawiki.org [17:20:42] Cocopuff2018, 💯 where you said, "i rather the spam accounts then the "Cocopuff is a homophobic" accounts , By the way i think it was ek Behind it" [17:21:38] BurningPrincess1, I am not sure which RamNode VPS plan Miraheze uses. SPF|Cloud would know. Reception123 may as well. JohnLewis likely still does [17:21:58] Cocopuff2018, oh that's great re: your user groups on `moviepediawiki` 👍 [17:22:04] One of the massive plans, I think which one has changed recently though [17:22:16] JohnLewis, ah, thanks :) [17:31:33] Any ideas for colors for my wiki? Should I stick to vector colors or recolor it [17:31:59] Whatever you want [17:33:30] dmehus: any ideas? [17:34:08] how about Blue and Red? [17:39:23] Hm [17:39:42] I had the idea of very very light blue and very light blu [18:35:36] hey there [18:37:49] Can i request a few features to be imported to my wiki (Fireberg Media Database)? [18:38:02] 1. infobox/ film, television, and videogame [18:38:46] 2. Wikidata image thingy (ask what this means if i'm not being certain) [18:39:44] and 3. navboxes [18:45:01] Hello MarioMario_456! If you have any questions, feel free to ask and someone should answer soon. [18:51:41] "MarioMario_456" is just my IRC client being shit and not sending a disconnect signal, so it uses the placeholder username "MarioMario_456" [19:10:12] do you want those Templates imported Film, Television infobox, and Videogame Infobox? @MarioMario456 [19:10:34] If so i do know for sure i Have television and FilmInfobox [19:10:50] oh i was the one who asked [19:11:07] Ok do you need those templates? [19:11:13] sure absolutely [19:11:25] WHY WOULD I NEED THOSE TEMPLATES? THEY'RE ALREADY ON THE WIKIS [19:11:29] Ok, Can i see the wiki you want them on [19:11:32] calm down mario [19:11:35] it was a mistake [19:11:41] Those templates are not Global [19:11:45] Use [19:11:57] you have to Import them TO each wiki you want them at [19:12:01] They only need to be on the respective wikis. They're pointless [19:12:01] Cocopuff2018 Fireberg Media Database is the wiki [19:12:11] Ok give me a sec [19:12:14] MarioMario456: please relax [19:12:26] Cocopuff2018 can you also add wikidata-image? [19:12:43] cause i have this redlink on person infoboxes every time i upload one [19:13:12] Ye i will see if i can add that. [19:13:18] I am pulling up the wiki right now [19:13:26] danke schön [19:14:59] Do you want these templates uploaded in English or another Language? [19:15:05] English [19:17:27] @Xana if you add me admin or crate i can Upload them Via Special:Import I will remove the groups once this is done [19:17:39] um how do i admin you [19:18:31] https://fireberg.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:UserRights/Cocopuff2018 [19:19:58] aight dunzo [19:20:04] lemme know when you've worked your magic [19:20:31] i am working on it right now [19:24:42] https://fireberg.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_film [19:24:49] here we got the film box @Xana [19:25:00] pog keep up the good work [19:25:25] Now you want tv show @Xana [19:25:36] yep and video game and the wikidata image thingo [19:28:23] can you Give me an example of the wikidata image please or were you found this at? [19:28:57] on the page of Michael Brady [19:29:07] ok [19:29:27] i am gonna have to add extra Templates to help the film Template work [19:29:43] o7 [19:30:38] i also locked the film Page, Note Editing the film Template Can Mess up all the pages using the Template [19:34:13] Dmehus: don't you think Cocopuff's messages should be relayed back on Discord? [19:34:19] do you want like the first air date and last air date on the television Template too @Xana [19:34:31] no thanks [19:34:32] @Lake That is done on purpose for the time being, as Cocopuff2018 is currently banned on Discord [19:34:38] No its apart of my Restrictions for them to be ignored @lake [19:34:38] oh [19:34:40] so that's not a mistake or omission [19:34:41] Reception123 beat me [19:34:49] heh [19:34:51] I thought it was only banned here, lol, then pk [19:34:52] ok* [19:35:26] No i only appealed IRc [19:35:47] If i appealed Discord and irc at the Same time i would of Worn out My only 1 per year appeal [19:37:49] @Xana i got the film one working [19:37:53] nice nice [19:38:03] now all that's left is the wikidata image and video game one [19:40:36] @lake but i also have a full list of restrictions aswell as part of my agreement. [19:41:49] @xana i am gonna re do The film one [19:41:53] ok [19:44:07] i just remembered you also wanted the television one too [19:44:27] yep [19:44:34] i want it, the video game one, and wikidata: image [19:44:40] alongside the film one you gave me [19:45:08] the Television one will look like the one on Wikipedia it has the First and last air date of the show [19:45:30] aye [19:45:41] ?? [19:45:49] it means yes [19:46:14] TBh i have not talked to reception1234 in Awhile [19:46:27] heh [19:46:54] cocopuff waits for the template to slowly Import \ [19:48:06] the site is down @Reception123 and Rhinos [19:48:19] not for me [19:48:27] Hmm well it gave me a 504 [19:48:38] ah ok now its back [19:48:53] Cocopuff2018: you're American right [19:48:58] yes [19:50:18] cp10 went bleh [19:50:24] But you should get 12 [19:51:09] * RhinosF1 grumbles about capacity [19:51:35] Tbh Rhinos remind me of a former Edtior at miraheze [19:51:51] Who? [19:52:07] can I give an idea (for the Discord server)? [19:52:19] Yes [19:52:23] create a role for announcements ping [19:52:42] then anyone who wants it (Dyno can handle that), will be pinged with every new announcement [19:53:07] (but still, extremely urgency alerts should use @everyone) [19:53:24] let's hope you did not just ping everyone [19:54:19] Not everyone can ping everyone [19:54:29] i am sure F1 can [19:54:48] yeah, but it's because a lot of people are annoyed by the everyone ping [19:55:22] @Xana your Templates are uploaded might wanna test them [19:55:23] so if someone wants to see each and every single announcement, you will get a ping if you have the "Notifications" role (something like that) [19:55:29] aight thanka [19:55:40] did you add the whole "wikidata image" thing Cocopuff2018 [19:55:52] Yes [19:56:06] aight thanka [19:56:13] i'll test these out during the week and report back then [19:56:15] Just Know you cannot delete any of the templates that came with it or it could possibly mess up the pages [19:56:21] i see [19:56:30] thank you a lot [19:56:54] Dmehus are you on you been silent for along time [19:57:22] aight i'm heading out now [19:57:26] i'll be back by the end of the week [19:57:29] thanks [19:57:47] Cocopuff2018: he's busy [19:58:27] its sadly raining alot here [19:58:50] It is here too [19:59:04] Cocopuff needs to go to flordia [20:00:37] same here, seems to be a trend [20:00:48] 3 days from Miraheze maintenance [20:02:19] https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/X9fEzqQ6/Threats.PNG [20:16:36] JohnLewis: what's the form to groan at outlook blocks? [20:17:15] Contact outlook support? [20:17:39] I spent about a day on the phone last time I did that and got nowhere [20:17:56] RhinosF1 what is the maintenance about? [20:18:44] RhinosF1: welcome to microsoft support [20:18:54] MarioMario456: updating our file systems [20:18:59] ok [20:19:00] Zppix: it was a fun day [20:19:04] so EXT3 to EXT4? [20:19:11] That's when they didn't block spam [20:19:16] Now they block too well [20:19:54] MarioMario456: just gluster FS. It's still version 8 of gluster but it's got a fix for why files keep randomly becoming unavailable until we kick it [20:20:03] ok [20:20:16] hmmmm, recently I registered on a wiki (selfhosted) and for some reason, Outlook couldn't get the confirmation email [20:20:31] I don't know if it's related to this, but it's pretty strange [20:20:42] I still remember a time when files were broken and were 404 Not Found [20:20:47] only the new files uploaded [20:20:56] Outlooks spam filiters are pretty strict [20:21:28] sometimes waiting a few minutes or hours works [20:22:28] RhinosF1: why? [20:23:04] JohnLewis: someone using live.it is saying an email hasn't arrived and they've checked junk [20:23:13] Cant reproduce on outlook.com though [20:23:22] Came instantly to junk [20:23:27] We got unblocked about 2 months ago [20:23:49] JohnLewis: could we be having issues again? Can we do anything about junk folder? [20:23:56] Zppix: they weren't when I had an account [20:24:04] Using Gmail Is better [20:24:29] JohnLewis: scratch that. They had no confirmed email. Funny how it failed. [20:24:32] No, it goes to Junk because people say the emails are junk [20:24:38] Cocopuff2018: I agree [20:25:23] I marked the two I just tested with as not junk [20:26:20] Unless Live.it is a black listed Email adress perhaps. [20:26:46] You’ll need a lot more because imagine the number of MediaWiki sites where people would just mark them as junk rather than unsubscribe [20:27:19] True [20:27:27] Cocopuff2018: it's a user error [20:27:41] i some times wonder if those spam accounts even use a email [20:30:55] Lol rhinos blocked your Test account [20:32:59] It was me who created it [20:33:12] But yes I blocked my test [21:59:21] hello i am back