[12:33:07] hello [12:33:54] this page appears in searches as having content (is a redirection) but when I visit it it links to "create page": https://tuscriaturas.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Plantilla:LYhutznY_%C3%BBlhulhyuludzh [12:33:55] [ Plantilla:LYhutznY ûlhulhyuludzh - Bestiario del Hypogripho ] - tuscriaturas.miraheze.org [12:34:55] the redirection is to [[Plantilla:ℓүɧնʇƺηү ûℓɧնℓɧყℓնʇն∂ʓɧ]] maybe is because the strange signs]] [12:35:36] it doesn't for me [12:35:36] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/435711390544560128/837668506945847316/unknown.png [12:39:15] Once you enter [12:39:24] It appears as functioning outside [12:39:37] But when you enter it is like s red link [12:43:07] it can be seen here: https://tuscriaturas.miraheze.org/wiki/Especial:LoQueEnlazaAqu%C3%AD/Plantilla:%E2%84%93%D2%AF%C9%A7%D5%B6%CA%87%C6%BA%CE%B7%D2%AF_%C3%BB%E2%84%93%C9%A7%D5%B6%E2%84%93%C9%A7%E1%83%A7%E2%84%93%D5%B6%CA%87%D5%B6%E2%88%82%CA%93%C9%A7 [12:43:08] [ Páginas que enlazan con «Plantilla:ℓүɧնʇƺηү ûℓɧնℓɧყℓնʇն∂ʓɧ» - Bestiario del Hypogripho ] - tuscriaturas.miraheze.org [12:43:57] mmm, I am going to create again, just in case [12:44:28] so, solved, kind of [16:49:18] dmehus, here, I made a list: [16:49:19] Erudite: 206 enabled / 0 default Mask: 156 enabled / 0 default Modern Skylight: 198 enabled / 0 default Gamepress: 201 enabled / 3 default DuskToDawn: 194 enabled / 4 default [16:50:10] of these ones, Modern Skylight is marked as unmaintained, Erudite had the last update in 2014 (yes, 2014) and Mask is bizarre [16:51:21] (and Erudite, Mask, Gamepress and DuskToDawn are Wordpress ports as well, it shows how old they are) [16:51:42] @Lake, true, I guess we'd have to check on those wikis to see how many users are using those skins (where it's not default). If no one's using them, then we can probably easily remove these without being disruptive [16:53:34] Universal_Omega: what do you think? [16:54:42] @Lake about what? Sorry I haven't been following this conversation. [16:55:22] oh, it's because I noticed that Modern Skylight was marked as unmaintained and there are no wikis using it as the default skin [16:55:33] and other 3 skins are not used by default as well [16:55:51] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/435711390544560128/837734001920704562/unknown.png [16:57:01] @Lake so what's the question? I'm sorry I don't quite understand. [16:57:31] if we could undeploy some of these skins [16:57:44] Unless there posing a risk to us, I don't see why [16:57:54] The unmaintained one maybe [16:58:19] because they're basically only enabled on a few amount of places and basically not used as default skin. [16:58:24] But the ones not marked as unmaintained, if they work then they might be okay for now [16:58:44] RhinosF1 I'm thinking more about these taking space [16:59:06] That's for us to worry about [16:59:31] well, I will bring the topic again when we update to 1.36 [16:59:35] so we can analyze better [16:59:40] @Lake: most of those aren't really unmaintained. Jack Phoenix maintains the WordPress port skins still, or at least they told me they did like 2 days ago. [16:59:52] You'll be able to test on test3 hopefully next week [17:00:18] If it's one of theirs then definately not [17:00:32] They're extremely responsive and easy to deal with [17:01:37] Universal_Omega: hmmm, said it because the code looks kinda... old (like, very old), but anyway [17:02:04] only [[mw:skin:Modern Skylight]] was marked as unmaintained [17:02:04]

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/skin:Modern_Skylight [17:02:05] [ Skin:Modern Skylight - MediaWiki ] - www.mediawiki.org [17:02:29] (when I was making that table on my userpage it was still marked as Stable) [17:04:03] RhinosF1: yeah almost all that was mentioned there are maintained by Jack Phoenix if I'm not mistaken, I know they maintain all the WordPress ports (or at least they told me that 2 days ago) I know Jack Phoenix and Isarra together maintain a majority of all maintained MediaWiki skins. [17:04:41] Ok [17:04:45] Probably [17:04:51] Jack maintains a lot [17:05:10] Isarra maintains Mask, I think [17:05:39] RhinosF1: We should consider undeploying Modern Skylight though. That one isn't maintained by them and isn't even in Wikimedia Gerrit so if any issues arise with it, it'll have to be removed. [17:05:44] Yeah [17:05:49] That looks risky [17:05:55] I can create a task if you want [17:05:57] Because of Jon's skin work [17:06:15] Just note it on the 1.36 task [17:06:22] alright [17:07:10] by the way, just changing the topic a bit. How hard would be to fork a skin and fix its problems, compared to forking extensions? [17:08:29] @Lake pretty easy. I know skinning a little but more then extensions, just because Cosmos was one of the first things I worked on with MediaWiki so have been doing it for longer. [17:10:21] RhinosF1: oh, edit the task on the "notes" sections you made or just make a commentary? [17:10:43] Just a comment [17:11:19] Universal_Omega: oh I see. I was thinking about if I could fork Apex and adapt to that concept I made a while ago (not the one for Cosmos btw) [17:13:36] @Lake mind DMing me the concept on Discord? Now I'm curious what it is. [17:14:59] dmehus: when you have a minute can you also PM/DM me on either IRC or Discord? [17:36:56] RhinosF1, I dm'd you something on discord [17:37:10] I never check discord [17:37:12] Use my email [17:46:10] Universal_Omega, sure [17:54:44] Universal_Omega, I don't see any unanswered DMs from you, but I see you wanted me to PM you, so I will do that now [17:55:38] dmehus: oh sorry. Was going to but got busy so forgot. But yeah am now. Thanks! [18:13:06] @Universal_Omega, np :) [18:13:32] Looks like the IRC relay bot has net split so currently IRC channels aren't being relayed to Discord. Should be automatically resolved soon [18:24:02] Relay bot is back for those in this channel [18:27:07] rhinosf1, well basically its just this: https://imgur.com/yn2uyke [18:27:07] [ Imgur: The magic of the Internet ] - imgur.com [18:27:23] our indexed pages on google have dropped, from 45k to 18k [18:28:34] Yours is a custom domain right? [18:29:06] yes [18:29:06] * RhinosF1 thinks there's a setting under WikiSEO that allows you to set the tag to view google data [18:29:26] See if you can set up search console because I can only see *.miraheze.org [18:30:50] i dont think i can: you guys have control over the DNS since I transfered the domain thingies over to you [18:31:08] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/244634569813262346/832735727997288508/unknown.png [18:44:32] There's a key version you can use in search console [18:46:07] can you explain that in a bit more detail? I'm a noob at this sort of stuff [18:49:33] basically what i think RhinosF1 wanted to say is that, you can check with https://search.google.com/search-console/about the SEO info about your domain, it requires setting a key on the website to identify that is you the owner that want to check that information, that can be done with the WikiSEO extension where you can paste the google key. [18:49:34] [ Google Search Console ] - search.google.com [18:55:49] installed the seo extension, where is its settings page for it located at? [18:56:19] wikiseo* [18:56:31] i believe it creates it's won tab in the other extension settings [18:56:41] Special:ManageWiki/settings SEO tab [18:57:02] oh thanks [18:58:35] added, verifying [18:58:45] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/435711390544560128/837764931905388574/unknown.png [19:00:12] hm, strange [19:00:16] guess I'll wait a few hours [19:01:01] yeah i think you need to select another method [19:01:19] this method requieres creating a custom dns value. [19:02:00] do you have HTML tag method? [19:02:04] i think miraheze staff can add the dns key to the godaddy dns page for the site [19:02:09] html tag method? [19:02:45] https://kinsta.com/blog/google-site-verification/#2-html-tag [19:02:45] [ Google Site Verification: 7 Ways to Verify With Search Console ] - kinsta.com [19:02:48] I think dmehus said they had access to it [19:04:41] you are using method 3 in that article. if google doesn't show any other alternative ways to validate, then yeah... [19:06:30] I mean it does say "Sometimes DNS changes can take a while to appear. Please wait a few hours", so I could just wait it out and if that doesn't work I'll try another method [19:08:30] yeah, but what you did there was to add a tag to your page, as you said you given the management of dns to miraheze. [19:09:17] you haven't touched the DNS with wikiseo [19:09:58] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/435711390544560128/837767753598763058/unknown.png [19:10:19] yes, thats adds a meta tag on your pages [19:10:34] ah [19:11:06] guess I'll just wait for RhinosF1 or dmehus [19:11:51] There should be a way to let google verify that tag [19:11:53] like i said, if you dont have any other method available to verify, then yes you can wait for them to add a TXT DNS field [19:12:16] you should have other methods [19:22:44] yup just checked, i dont have any other methods available. guess I'll wait for staff [19:25:48] You'll have to file a task [19:31:09] is this good? ---- Site: trollpasta.com Request: Verifying my site using the Google Search Console DNS method to improve my SEO. [19:31:22] Ye [19:31:45] https://phabricator.miraheze.org/T7222 [19:31:46] [ ⚓ T7222 Google site verification/SEO for Trollpasta ] - phabricator.miraheze.org [19:32:14] Seen [23:12:07] @Peppermint Patty, regarding T7222, where does Google Search Console require the verification? Have you tried enabling the WikiSEO extension, and adding the Google Search Console verification meta tag as a WikiSEO meta tag to your wiki's Main Page? [23:30:56] dmehus, in the DNS configuration [23:33:13] oof its 2am. I gotta go. if there's anything else do tell me, I'll see it tomorrow