[10:22:08] Hello wm-bot521! If you have any questions, feel free to ask and someone should answer soon. [17:42:22] Hello \ntest\n! If you have any questions, feel free to ask and someone should answer soon. [17:43:16] Hello testspamspam! If you have any questions, feel free to ask and someone should answer soon. [18:09:22] Hello \ntestueue\n! If you have any questions, feel free to ask and someone should answer soon. [18:42:05] I need someone to import pages to cancelledmovieswiki [18:42:09] https://phabricator.miraheze.org/T7058 [18:42:10] [ ⚓ T7058 Import pages to cancelledmovieswiki ] - phabricator.miraheze.org [18:44:38] ......................................................................... [18:44:41] Reception123 [18:45:41] MarioMario456, it should be done in 1-2 days. We have to stagger the imports depending on how many pages are involved. [18:46:21] The wiki has 659 articles (5503 total pages) [18:50:39] Are you importing all 5,503, or just 659? [18:51:00] hey guys, asking again because I didn't get an answer [18:51:04] all of em [18:51:17] i might delete all leftovers before announcing the wiki to the public [18:51:20] is there a way I can turn off the modal of TimedMediaHandler if the file is an audio? [18:51:49] "Articles" are all the pages on "main" namespace [18:51:57] "Total pages" are all the pages on every namespace [18:55:08] MarioMario456, in fairness, it would be procedurally simpler, and also reduce your wiki's database size, if you instead provided a list of just the pages you wanted to import. For example, you could could categorize that wiki's 659 articles as `Category:Export to Miraheze` then use `Special:Export` to export all pages in that category, rather than importing an entire wiki and requesting deletion of ~4,800 or so pages you don't need [18:56:01] I don't have admin on the wikia, so it's my best option [18:56:17] Im forking it because of wikia's habit to close wikis if the staff don't like them [18:56:22] And because im admin on like 6 wikis [18:56:49] You shouldn't need `sysop` permissions to use Special:Export, though? [18:56:59] Yes I know i can export without sysop [18:57:18] But I would need sysop to add "Export to Miraheze" to all 659 articles [18:57:53] Yes it's possible without sysop, but adding the category manually would take 4ever [18:58:01] Categorization is not completely necessary, you could just create a list yourself. [18:58:05] Okay, keep in mind, though, that you will want to add an edit summary to the imported pages, especially if you think one or more users may object to your forking the wiki onto Miraheze otherwise they could make life difficult for you from a copyright licensing perspective [18:58:21] dorito, oh good point, yeah [18:58:50] I posted the edit summary and prefix to phabricator [18:58:57] the edit summary is "Importing from Wikia/Fandom" [18:59:01] and the prefix is "wikia" [18:59:08] yeah... I'm not sure if that script lets an edit summary be added though [18:59:16] prefix is not wikia [18:59:22] it's `wikia:cancelled-movies` [18:59:44] that's what we've done for similar Fandom imports [19:00:13] an example is if on wiki A, the user Foo has edited on it, it'll be imported on wiki B as "theotherwiki>Foo" [19:01:19] When all of the pages are imported, I'll clean all the junk and edit like policy pages and stuff to reference Miraheze instead of WIkia [19:01:30] Yes, but with Fandom, you need to specify the subdomain in the `wikia:` prefix, but that's a minor point. My point is that https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:ImportDump.php doesn't provide a parameter to an edit summary to all imported pages, so you will want to manually add it to every page once the import is done [19:01:31] [ Manual:importDump.php - MediaWiki ] - www.mediawiki.org [19:01:48] ok [19:02:00] so use the prefix "wikia:cancelled-movies" [19:02:10] so that user "Foo" is "wikia:cancelled-movies:Foo" [19:02:21] "wikia:cancelled-movies>Foo"*** [19:04:43] yeah, exactly [19:04:57] and any users where Foo exists on Miraheze will be locally assigned as "Foo" [19:06:03] Just curious, why do people go through Phabricator instead of just using Special:Import? Is the maintenance script faster or something? [19:06:08] When the wiki is ready (all junk imported from Wikia like comments and message walls are deleted), I'll announce it on awfulmovieswiki (I'm sysop there) [19:06:19] Because Special:Import only lets you import small files [19:06:22] Larger files error out [19:06:41] Makes sense. [19:08:06] I also mass edit every page to add comments (unlike Wikia, comments aren't automatically added to every page) [19:08:50] Edit summary is (Page imported from Wikia/Fandom, adding comments) [19:12:07] And, how do I use MassEditRegex to add content at the end of the page but before the categories? [19:13:17] Yeah, that would be a good way to handle that, but I'm personally not familiar with the exact syntax [19:14:10] The "content at the end of the page but before the categories" is wikitext to add comments to the page (unlike Wikia, comments aren't added automatically) [19:14:31] Also enable structured discussions on "User talk" [19:14:47] to imitate Wikia message walls [19:15:02] just change the content model of user talk namespace to structured discussions/flow [19:16:43] The "structured discussions" or "flow" option isn't in managewiki for some reason [19:17:49] Shows up for me, are you sure you didn't miss it? You can use Ctrl + F to search for it on the page [19:19:38] On managewiki namespaces, it isn't there [19:19:49] Did you enable the extension? [19:20:00] yes its installed [19:20:07] https://cancelledmovies.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Version [19:20:29] [ Version - Cancelled Movies Wiki ] - cancelledmovies.miraheze.org [19:27:13] I mean, when selecting the content model for namespace "User talk", "Structured Discussions" or "Flow" doesn't appear (the extension is installed and working, I enabled it manually on my talk page) [19:37:28] last time i had to use Special:import i had to cut (the imported stuff) from the wiki file each time because it would error out. thankfully it imports sequentially, so it is possible to import large files, just annoying. [19:38:02] it imports like 1Mb each time, and the larger the file, the less stuff it imports before dying. [19:38:11] so there is still a limit. [19:44:32] MarioMario456, it used to be. That's strange. Universal_Omega, did your updates to ManageWiki/namespaces remove the `flow` content model as a selectable option by chance? MarioMario456 isn't able to enable it in certain namespaces on `cancelledmovieswiki`. [19:45:02] I'll make a test on my own wiki [19:45:20] Lake, okay, thanks :) [19:48:11] I tried it on my wiki and the content model actually doesn't show up [19:48:26] I thought MarioMario456 was talking about not seeing Flow in the extensions list on ManageWiki/extensions [19:51:06] yeh, I turned it on and doesn't show [19:51:28] but I don't know how exactly, I rarely change anything in namespaces [19:51:51] Yeah, the weird thing is others have told me they were able to Flow in certain namespaces, so that's weird, but I don't see it as a selectable option either [19:52:28] Enable it on all talk pages on cancelledmovieswiki while you guys fix managewiki [19:54:23] It shouldn't take long to fix. I would recommend just using normal talk pages until it's resolved. [19:59:23] MarioMario456, and @Lake, I've created a task, https://phabricator.miraheze.org/T7059 [19:59:24] [ ⚓ T7059 Flow/StructuredDiscussions content model no longer appears as a selectable option in Special:ManageWiki/namespaces ] - phabricator.miraheze.org [20:03:57] cool [20:34:26] PR opened to fix https://phabricator.miraheze.org/T7059, but I don't know 100% if it'll work. I'm not on PC either, so can't test and deploy at the moment. [20:34:27] [ ⚓ T7059 Flow/StructuredDiscussions content model no longer appears as a selectable option in Special:ManageWiki/namespaces ] - phabricator.miraheze.org [20:35:18] @dmehus, @Lake, and @MarioMario456: ^ [20:35:40] https://github.com/miraheze/ManageWiki/pull/261 [20:35:41] [ Fix T7059 by Universal-Omega · Pull Request #261 · miraheze/ManageWiki · GitHub ] - github.com [20:36:59] can flow be selected as a content model to change to from Special:ChangeContentModel? [20:37:45] nope [20:37:55] It doesn't let me there, either [20:39:13] @MarioMario456 and @dorito: then that is why, my method for MWN content models is based off that, in that case, the above PR will almost certainly fix it. But I don't know what else it'll do. If it's not available in that special page I'm not sure it should be in MWN either to be honest. [20:39:48] Universal_Omega: flow has a weird migrate method [20:40:26] RhinosF1: what do you mean? (I don't use flow so don't know it much) [20:40:55] Universal_Omega: there's a special page to convert things to flow other than ChangeContentModel [20:41:05] I hate flow with a passion [20:41:12] I just used Flow one time. Didn't liked it and turned it off [20:41:38] RhinosF1: oh, so should it be an available content model in MWN? I personally don't think so, if it's not in the Special page. [20:41:59] Universal_Omega: as a default or? [20:42:08] optional [20:42:21] RhinosF1: as an option for namespace content model. [20:42:23] since many wikis only want flow enabled on which pages they want [20:42:55] Universal_Omega: you mean default across the namespace though? [20:43:23] RhinosF1: no, not enabled by default unless that is what the Namespace is set to. But allowed to select. [20:45:30] Universal_Omega: if you mean wgNamespaceContentModels then that's fine as long as it doesn't touch existing pages [20:46:34] RhinosF1: yeah. But the only way I could fix it (See PR) is allowing every content model to be selected there, whether meant to be used or changed for pages or not. Do you think that's ok? [20:47:13] No then [20:48:30] RhinosF1: then to add flow as enabled there is a much more difficult/advanced fix. It'll require a new config variable possibly. [20:48:54] Fun! [20:55:10] What caused that issue in the first place, then? I'm pretty sure flow was showing as a valid content model on ManageWiki/namespaces before [20:56:22] @dorito: yes it was, then I changed ManageWiki to autodetect available content models but only those meant for direct editing, which Flow isn't meant for. [20:57:28] I see [21:00:03] Is the import ready [21:00:16] I have assigned the import to Reception123 [21:02:31] Reception is probably asleep [21:02:43] I think they live in UTC +2 or +3 [21:03:06] He's likely awake [21:03:14] Please don't assign tasks where numerous can work on [21:03:19] UTC+2 is acutally 3:02 PM [21:03:26] And he's definately asleep [21:03:32] UTC+2 is not 3pm [21:03:39] UTC-6 is 3pm lol [21:03:43] It's 11pm [21:03:45] ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh [21:04:00] I confused utc+2 with utc-2 [21:04:46] You'd still be wrong [21:04:50] flow is not yet available [21:05:21] @RhinosF1, @MarioMario456, @dmehus, @Lake: https://phabricator.miraheze.org/T7059#139805 [21:05:22] [ ⚓ T7059 Flow/StructuredDiscussions content model no longer appears as a selectable option in Special:ManageWiki/namespaces ] - phabricator.miraheze.org [21:05:43] MarioMario456: we haven't worked out the best way to solve the issue yet [21:06:00] ok [21:06:16] Is there someone else that can import [21:06:43] The import is cancelled-movies.fandom.com to cancelledmovies.miraheze.org [21:06:45] Just wait for someone to handle your Phabricator task [21:06:50] ok [21:07:10] You have a task open, be patient [21:10:25] RhinosF1: I could do a simple check ManageWiki contentmodel type to allow just flow content model as option, though that may not be ideal, should I do that? [21:10:54] A config variable would be cleanest, though not worth it just for flow. [21:11:05] Flow with problems, what a surprise /s [21:12:02] Universal_Omega: I mean if it's just flow then hard coding shouldn't be too bad [21:12:17] ok [21:13:19] @Lake: flow is liked by a very small but very loud group of people [21:13:23] Only reason it exists [21:13:46] Flow isnt that terrible in my opinion but I prefer talk pages [21:14:04] It's easier to understand for people who are not common wiki editors/users which is why it has people who like it [21:14:46] The new reply link is better to me [21:14:51] But I'm off to sleep [21:15:03] Night RhinosF1 [21:15:04] I do like the reply link, makes it much easier to use talk pages [21:15:07] Also night [21:17:12] Don't the reply links get broken if people's signatures don't have the standard timestamp though? [21:23:30] Universal_Omega, I mean we used to have it as a content model option in Special:ManageWiki/namespaces, I'm positive of that because I remember seeing it there before, so we must've made change to ManageWiki/namespaces [21:23:55] dmehus I replied to you on task. [21:23:57] It's Special:EnableStructuredDiscussions I believe, Universal_Omega [21:24:40] ok [21:25:24] what is reply link? [21:25:28] Is that thing with VE? [21:25:46] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:DiscussionTools [21:25:47] [ Extension:DiscussionTools - MediaWiki ] - www.mediawiki.org [21:26:18] oh yes, this I wish there wasn't a VE dependency [21:27:50] Lake, do you use VE on your wiki(s)? [21:28:01] no [21:28:05] oh [21:28:18] I never use VE actually, I don't think it's good enough [21:28:18] VE is enabled on my wiki (on mainspace, userspace and draftspace) [21:28:23] Draftspace is an alternative to the sandbox [21:28:48] I mean, you could potentially install Enterprisey's reply-link script as a gadget on your wiki. It's what DiscussionTools is based on, and it doesn't need VE. It can be a bit buggy sometimes, but usually works fairly well [21:28:48] (plus also, it's not a WYSIWYG editor as a lot of people say_ [21:29:08] dmehus: replied again. Also, just so you know, I may just hardcode flow as selectable in MWN, though not certain yet. [21:29:25] Lake, true. I'm not a fan of VE's visual editing mode. I only like it for the superior source editor heh [21:29:37] Universal_Omega, oh okay, thanks for the update :) [21:29:47] dmehus: it's okay, I will use just normal talk pages now. I will figure out a way to organize them better [21:30:14] Lake, ah, you could potentially add CommentStreams to normal talk pages. It's a pretty decent discussion extension [21:30:23] and I will create a discord server as well, so if people want to ask simple things, they just can go to the server [21:30:25] I would recommend that after DiscussionTools and Flow [21:31:07] No problem, dmehus [21:33:30] by the time reception is able to import, it'll be night where i live [21:34:02] don't need to worry. They'll import and by the time you get up, you'll be able to modify the content