[01:22:41] `[YCcpr2Gd3gb05gd0PqPajAAAAAg] 2021-02-13 01:21:51: Fatal exception of type "Wikimedia\Rdbms\DBQueryError"` I got this on my self-hosted wiki, is that an error with me, or elsewhere? [01:24:23] blackwidowmovie0, I'd recommend asking in #mediawiki. It's possibly a configuration issue, but more than likely an upstream task you'll have to resolve. They will ask that you run the trace on the error, though [01:24:45] dmehus: Banned from channel as a result of Wikimedia lock [01:25:33] `[YCcqShutEr8CViWtWl2F1gAAAC4] 2021-02-13 01:24:26: Fatal exception of type "Wikimedia\Rdbms\DBQueryError"` [01:25:39] Ouch, tough break. In any case, even asking here, we'd still need the full trace to point you in the right direction in terms of where to file an upstream task [01:26:09] Can you try googling something like "how to trace php fatal exception errors in mediawiki"? [01:26:37] sure [01:27:27] I asked Universal_Omega if he can tell you how to trace a php fatal exception error [01:27:37] No guarantees, though [01:28:18] dmehus: Of course. http://iolrathenere.epizy.com/index.php/Special:RenameUser [01:28:23] that's the error [01:28:28] as well as http://iolrathenere.epizy.com/index.php/Special:CheckUserLogf [01:28:39] *http://iolrathenere.epizy.com/index.php/Special:CheckUserLog [01:28:51] blackwidowmovie0: I'll help tomorrow (in #miraheze-offtopic or #mediawiki though) [01:29:17] Universal_Omega: It would have to be in #miraheze-offtopic [01:29:23] Why? [01:29:50] Why not #mediawiki ? [01:30:03] Oh. Nevermind. [01:30:14] yep [01:30:40] Universal_Omega: I enabled see PHP errors, if that helps [01:30:47] in `LocalSettings.php` [01:31:01] Yes give the full message. [01:31:15] `Warning: putenv() has been disabled for security reasons in /home/vol13_6/epizy.com/epiz_27551178/htdocs/includes/Setup.php on line 167` [01:31:26] and [01:31:29] `[YCcrrSkmxSPqmrD@sXhVVAAAACA] 2021-02-13 01:30:22: Fatal exception of type "Wikimedia\Rdbms\DBQueryError"` [01:31:41] blackwidowmovie0: that's not full errors then. [01:32:02] I can't trace that for you. I don't have log access there. [01:32:13] yeah... blackwidowmovie0, can you look in your php error logs for `YCcrrSkmxSPqmrD@sXhVVAAAACA`? Universal_Omega can probably tell you where your php error logs for MediaWiki are [01:32:22] or where they might be, rather [01:33:14] dmehus: Not sure. All setup is unique to the server. I had to setup a bunch of config on my wiki in order to log at all. To complicated to explain here. [01:33:58] Universal_Omega: I haven't changed anything except localsettings and defaultsettings, everything else has stayed the same as default [01:34:53] Universal_Omega: Do you want backend access? [01:34:58] No [01:35:03] https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/uAIqyD9C/ [01:35:06] I don't want access to your wiki. [01:35:10] ok [01:36:03] I'm getting too many errors [01:36:09] @Universal_Omega, ack [01:36:15] http://iolrathenere.epizy.com/index.php/Main_Page [01:36:27] dmehus: Do you want access to help locate? [01:37:02] Well try disabling extension by extension. [01:37:28] blackwidowmovie0, if I'm being honest, I think you might be in a bit over your head. Not saying you can't learn, but managing a self-hosted wiki is difficult work. I'd even have to read up a lot to self-host my own wiki [01:37:57] and no, I'll pass on the backend access to your wiki. Too many other things to do. Thanks, though, blackwidowmovie0 [01:38:01] dmehus: I used cPanel [01:38:16] there's no way I could manage a wiki like that [01:38:24] Universal_Omega: Only 2 extensions are enabled [01:38:31] Then disable them. [01:38:33] yeah, cPanel is great for setting things like that up the first time, but you still have to know a fair bit on the configuration [01:38:43] ^ [01:38:44] dmehus: I guess [01:38:47] Universal_Omega: Doing [01:39:21] blackwidowmovie0: all i can say is just debug. Disable extensions, run update.php and if all else fails, reinstall mediawiki [01:39:51] Universal_Omega: How do I run Update.php? [01:40:14] It'd be in maintenance, right? [01:40:29] Maintenance script or from the web interface mw-config/Update.php (I think) [01:41:15] Universal_Omega: I don't think I have SSH access, and I don't know what the web interface is [01:41:22] I'm using InfinityFree.net [01:42:36] Universal_Omega: I believe it's working now [01:42:46] Universal_Omega, could you get a fatal exception error if you run out of php childs? [01:43:01] Was it a security error with the extensions, then? [01:43:03] I know the resources allocated on InfinityFree are very, very limited [01:43:09] dmehus: Extremely [01:43:20] I was going to do freehosting.com, but it kept crashing [01:45:52] Why not use paid hosting? [01:49:40] Naleksuh: I haven't found good ones [01:49:56] But you think you *have* found good free hosting? [01:50:12] Naleksuh: Bad free hosting is better than bad paid hosting [01:51:54] Naleksuh: Do you have a good hoster to suggest? [01:52:02] What does testwiki.wiki use? [01:52:45] Icinga [01:54:00] Naleksuh: Is icinga good? [01:56:55] > But you think you *have* found good free hosting? [01:56:55] ^ :thistbh: [01:57:23] Icinga doesn't host testwiki.wiki, though, Naleksuh [01:57:38] MacFan4000 uses RamNode for testwiki.wiki, afaik [01:58:16] dmehus: As far as I can see, without extensions, everything works fine. With even just one extension, it breaks [01:58:27] Fatal rdbm errors [01:59:24] I'll check RamNode, though [01:59:53] So what extension does it break with? It's likely something configured wrong your extensions then, tbh [02:00:38] icinga is a monitoring solution, it doesn't help if your server is doomed [02:01:48] dmehus: I tried enabling *only* CheckUser, it broke. Tried the same with *only* renameuser, it broke. Tried both, it broke [02:01:53] Tried none, it works [02:02:07] Not sure what's wrong with the extensions, but VisualEditor works [02:02:18] hold up, it's not enabled [02:02:21] so nvm [02:02:31] revi: Any good suggestions? [02:03:34] google is our friends https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/0kVuxCvf/IMG_9268.PNG [02:03:36] https://m.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:How_to_debug [02:03:37] [ Manual:How to debug - MediaWiki ] - m.mediawiki.org [02:03:54] I love google [02:03:59] revi: I saw that page [02:04:03] if you love it then why do you not use it [02:04:34] Naleksuh: I did [02:04:42] I saw that page on Google [02:04:53] but I don't have SSH access, so I cannot run scripts [02:04:58] to enable logging [02:05:14] You don't need to have SSH access, you just need to access LocalSettings.php [02:05:18] Regardless this is not a channel for tech support [02:07:59] Naleksuh: That's fine, people are helping me out of the kindness of their heart to help me fix an error. If you don't want to participate, that's fine [02:08:12] I wouldn't be against moving to #miraheze-offtopic, though [02:09:20] Regardless, I need to go, so leave messages here, and I'll get back to them when I can [02:17:40] You need access to maintenance scripts to properly handle a mediawiki install. You used to be able to bypass this requirement using an extension, but it's no longer compatible with the latest mw versions [02:22:32] Voidwalker: actually there is still one that works with mediawiki 1.35/1.36. Security-safe is another matter altogether. [02:27:48] Extension:GoToShell? [02:28:22] voidwalker : In general yes but for this specific purpose he doesn't need SSH [02:28:31] Voidwalker: no, I can't remember which one but one I used on my own wiki on 1.35 and 1.36 a little while ago. [02:28:33] He just needs to edit LocalSettings.php and add one variable [02:31:11] Hmm, I thought some things required update.php [02:32:37] oh neat, there is a web updater [02:35:44] Voidwalker, Naleksuh: If any of you want access backend to help, let me know [02:40:12] blackwidowmovie0, well, the thing is, they won't be around to resolve every problem for you. All we can do is give you pointers, point you in the right direction. It's the old adage...https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/give_a_man_a_fish_and_you_feed_him_for_a_day;_teach_a_man_to_fish_and_you_feed_him_for_a_lifetime#:~:text=Proverb-,give%20a%20man%20a%20fish%20and%20you%20feed%20him%20for,(on%20an%20ongoing%20basis). [02:40:12] [ give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime - Wiktionary ] - en.wiktionary.org [03:01:35] dmehus: I understand, I'll try to install the extension, and I'll get back to you tomorrow [03:02:00] Naleksuh: I added the variable [03:13:08] ok [03:16:20] GoToShell? It sounds more like a full play-on word for Go To Hell. (Not saying anyone here should go there, if you know what I'm talking about.) [16:35:52] * blackwidowmovie0 greetings all [17:10:00] Hi blackwidowmovie0 [18:32:09] RhinosF1|NotHere: Is it possible to perma-ban the music troll's accounts on IRC? [18:32:19] Above ^, eir unbanned [18:33:03] blackwidowmovie0, not really useful. The user changes usernames so frequently. [18:33:39] eir automatically unbans after 24 hours, which is usually sufficient for most purposes anyway. [18:36:37] blackwidowmovie0: if it was that easy then we would [19:20:42] Fair enough :) [20:11:32] Hello Anton28! If you have any questions, feel free to ask and someone should answer soon. [20:11:54] Anton28: What can I help with? [20:12:52] Not when I came but to visit here, I hope it doesn’t hurt :) [20:13:30] Anton28: Of course not. Enjoy, and feel free to ask a question about Miraheze! [20:14:42] Okay, thanks! [20:15:00] No problem! [20:16:58] Hello Mito! If you have any questions, feel free to ask and someone should answer soon. [20:17:15] ? [20:20:49] What anti spam stuff does MH use? [20:36:26] BurningPrincess1: Spam blacklists are enabled, as well as abuse filters and the extension moderation