[00:35:20] Hello wm-bot5121! If you have any questions, feel free to ask and someone should answer soon. [04:39:49] there any way to query a miraheze wike internally without query services, without linkedwiki etc? haven't seen any usage examples. maybe using graph is the full extent? [04:39:57] wikibase * [04:43:02] .op [04:43:02] Attempting to OP... [05:59:01] Command sent from Discord by R4356th: [05:59:02] .tell RhinosF1|NotHere Oh, sorry I keep forgetting that. -R4356th [05:59:02] MH-Discord: I'll pass that on when RhinosF1|NotHere is around. [11:44:26] !log disabled three spam accounts on Phab [11:48:46] whoops, wrong channel :P [14:59:45] * hispano76 greets [15:00:13] hey @Hispano76 🙂 [15:12:14] Hi there Doug [15:14:08] Morning, BurningPrincess1. brb, need morning coffee :) [17:21:36] * blackwidowmovie0 - greetings [18:35:33] dmehus: Replied on Commons [18:35:51] Sorry for the late response, I've been dealing with too many things :) [18:39:42] Reception123: Getting slow response times on `templatewiki` [18:40:07] I personally can't reproduce [18:40:14] loaded in 304ms for me [18:40:22] if it's a large template, then that could be expected [18:44:35] Reception123: Tested a couple more times, only appears on large pages [20:07:04] dmehus: Can I request a new wiki? [20:07:16] `The Falcon and the Winter Soldier` wiki [20:07:37] `falconwintersoldier.miraheze.org` [20:07:54] English [20:07:59] Entertainment [20:08:03] Public [20:08:24] I'd do it myself, but...... [20:20:50] I swear I dreamt of Miraheze last night [20:21:33] lol [21:07:17] blackwidowmovie0, Not seeing a compelling need for you to request a wiki. You still have `starwarswiki` and other wikis which you've barely touched [21:19:26] Lord dmehus, this Miraheze editor feels like editor blackwidowmovie0 should work on his or her own wiki/s [21:40:01] dmehus: Yes, those wikis are inactive and can be deleted, I've focused my attention on mcu wikis [21:40:07] see `wandavisionwiki` [21:49:54] blackwidowmovie0, Alright, I'll tell you what, I'll delete `starwarswiki` since it has zero content on it. Indeed, it consists only of a single blank Main Page and standard StructuredDiscussions-added templates. If you create at least 75 new, non-stub, full articles on either `wandavisionwiki` and/or `bwm0000wiki` (note you can split the 75 between the two wikis however you wish), complete with infoboxes and reasonable length prose, you can [21:49:54] request that additional wiki via IRC and a wiki creator will create it for you [21:55:42] dmehus: Done [21:56:12] dmehus: Do you mind also deleting `marveldatabase` if there have been no new edits? [21:56:33] blackwidowmovie0, sure, I'll take look at that in a few minutes. [22:09:32] blackwidowmovie0, `marveldatabasewiki` doesn't exist. Do you have the subdomain wrong? [22:13:52] You might mean `marvelwiki`, titled as "Marvel Database," though, as I see that wiki indeed contains no content, not even a Main Page, and only extension-added templates. [22:19:02] dmehus, how many paegs would you consider a wiki to need before it becomes "viale" and having "taken off" [22:24:26] BurningPrincess1, Don't know, it varies, I'd say. I mean, we'd probably ideally like to see a wiki have at least 25-50 pages to grant a Dormancy Policy exemption, if it was needed and was requested, but even that, there's no fixed number as it depends on the wiki. Some wikis don't intend to "take off," as they serve a specific niche. It's really the type of information wikis provide / disseminate and whether people find it useful, which can [22:24:26] measured in various ways (i.e., user engagement, etc.) [22:25:17] I would want to see at lest 50 pages [22:35:22] dmehus: Yes, I meant `marvelwiki` [22:41:45] Hey can someone ping me, I want to test something [22:43:53] BurningPrincess, ping [22:43:56] oops [22:44:01] BurningPrincess1, ping [22:44:15] Thanks dmehus , please check your DMs [22:44:27] okay [22:46:12] blackwidowmovie0, okay [22:47:21] blackwidowmovie0, ✅ {{Done}} [22:47:44] Oh, you can post little-images on IRC [22:56:44] yeah [22:56:53] they're not as pretty as the Discord emojis though [22:56:57] Do I have any catchphases dmehus ? [22:57:22] BurningPrincess1, no not that I've seen so far [22:57:43] Maybe "Please check your DMs" [22:58:07] my wiki is not to be found: https://voidlinux.miraheze.org/wiki/ [22:58:08] [ Wiki not Found ] - voidlinux.miraheze.org [22:58:14] are wikis deleted after a period if inactivity? [22:59:48] I think 6 months or so [22:59:58] how is inactivity measured [23:00:04] bleb, yes, after at least six months since the last RecentChanges log entry or edit. Wiki databases are not dropped immediately at six months. [23:00:21] They're dropped when a sysadmin runs the wiki deletion script [23:00:26] ah [23:00:33] theres no way to prevent it? [23:00:41] Edit it I think [23:00:47] what if a wiki doesn't require any updates for 6 months? [23:00:57] If your wiki is not actively edited, you can request an exemption at [[stewards' noticeboard]] [23:01:11] what's your wiki? [23:01:22] voidlinux.miraheze.org [23:01:31] Oh, that one is deleted [23:01:35] I think it is stages of 30 days for 1st stage, 15 for 2nd stage and 6 months for till deleting [23:01:36] indeed [23:01:37] Do you want me to undelete it? [23:01:59] You just made it in time. It would've been dropped on February 15th-16th [23:02:05] Let me undelete it for you [23:02:05] woa [23:02:12] thanks! [23:02:25] n/p [23:02:28] it is going to be an archive of the now defunct http://wiki.voidlinux.org/ [23:02:48] so i dont know if i can expect no 6 month gaps between updates [23:02:51] I think it is stages of 30 days for 1st stage, 15 for 2nd stage and 6 months for till deleting - is that right dmehus ? [23:03:47] bleb, ✅ {{Done}}. It's undeleted. Do you own the voidlinux.org domain and if so, you can request a custom domain per [[custom domains]] [23:05:07] bleb, Make sure you make an edit on voidlinux.miraheze.org before tomorrow at noon UTC to prevent your wiki from being reclosed [23:07:20] i don't own the domain but i might be able to talk to the people who do [23:07:38] Oh, right, you mentioned that to me last summer after I created the wiki for you [23:08:49] BurningPrincess1, after 45 days, wiki becomes "inactive," but still can be edited. After 15 further days, it is "closed," and can't be edited but can be "adopted" at [[requests for adoption]]. [23:09:03] Oh olkay tank you [23:09:24] After 135 days from the wiki being inactive, it is "marked as deleted," and a 404 error is returned. It is dropped when the script is run [23:09:29] BurningPrincess1, np [23:10:09] dmehus, should I ask for an dormacy exsation? [23:10:17] bleb's wiki was in the "marked as deleted" phase, and would've been dropped on February 15th-16th, the date on which Reception123 and I had next fixed as the date to run the wiki deletion script [23:11:02] BurningPrincess1, I'd probably wait a bit until you have, say, 50-60 content pages drafted. There's no rush yet, as you'd have to go 45 days without a single log action or edit [23:13:46] Okay [23:14:07] so I have an xml backup of the wiki i am archiving, the file name is Void+Linux+Wiki-20201015234107.xml [23:14:22] do you know how i would import this data to the miraheze wiki? [23:14:26] Yes [23:14:46] Special:Inport or ask Miraheze staff [23:15:10] I know people with shell acess can run scripts and inport via shell [23:15:12] BurningPrincess1, yes, but for those wiki imports, it'll probably time out [23:15:28] You have to request an import, but you will need to have an interwiki prefix added to your wiki's interwiki table, to correctly associate that wiki's contributions to the wiki's users [23:15:52] What would you like as the interwiki prefix for old Void Linux Wiki, bleb? [23:17:29] Actually, the interwiki prefix is not essential, since the old wiki seems to be offline, and it seems unlikely those users will register accounts on the new Void Linux Wiki [23:17:41] dmehus: ty [23:17:52] So, bleb, just create a Phabricator task at http://phabricator.miraheze.org/ [23:17:53] [ Main Page ] - phabricator.miraheze.org [23:17:56] blackwidowmovie0, np [23:18:29] dmehus: im trying the Special:Import thing, can't tell if it's working [23:19:22] I wouldn't personally, you'll probably get a 503 error. [23:19:41] but don't cancel it I guess if you've already started it [23:20:21] but if you haven't started it yet, bleb, I'd say don't. Just create a task and it'll be done within 24 hours [23:23:53] do i need a new account for phabricator? [23:24:14] bleb: Not sure what you mean [23:24:28] If you mean an account seperate from your on-wiki account, then yes [23:24:44] https://phabricator.miraheze.org/auth/start/?next=%2F [23:24:59] nvm i got it [23:25:34] oh yeah, just sign in with your Meta account [23:25:56] I'll take a look at the task, triage, and add a comment when you've posted it [23:36:47] do i click "request features" in the ribbon menu? [23:37:07] can't find anything that says task [23:37:40] Nope [23:37:47] Just click Maniphest on the left side [23:37:52] then click Create Task [23:38:02] I'll worry about the project and priority for you [23:38:58] I could create the task for you, bleb, and then all you'd need to do is upload your XML to wetransfer.com and link the file? [23:39:02] I set mine to Pirtet talk [23:39:19] BurningPrincess1, hrm? [23:40:44] I found that Pirate Talk was a lang setting on Phab [23:40:55] dwai i got it [23:41:08] bleb, okay [23:41:23] should i upload my xml there anyway and link from the task [23:41:37] "Cap'n RhinosF1 be stakin' a claim on this here task." [23:47:25] dmehus: here's the task: https://phabricator.miraheze.org/T6833 [23:47:26] [ ⚓ T6833 Import XML for voidlinux.miraheze.org ] - phabricator.miraheze.org [23:47:27] thanks so much [23:49:35] bleb, looking and bp [23:54:04] Yes? [23:58:08] dmehus, what is it?