[00:03:53] PROBLEM - cloud1 Current Load on cloud1 is WARNING: WARNING - load average: 22.15, 20.14, 16.24 [00:05:52] RECOVERY - cloud1 Current Load on cloud1 is OK: OK - load average: 18.24, 20.39, 16.88 [00:26:09] RhinosF1|NotHere: Ok, thanks [00:57:37] PROBLEM - cp7 Current Load on cp7 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL - load average: 8.19, 4.52, 2.10 [00:59:39] RECOVERY - cp7 Current Load on cp7 is OK: OK - load average: 1.77, 3.34, 1.97 [01:21:48] RhinosF1|NotHere: Mind joining #wizardwiki quickly? dmehus: Join as well if possible [01:47:31] @blackwidowmovie0 Why? I'm in enough IRC channels and Discord servers at the moment. Mostly Miraheze ones, but still. Only non-Miraheze ones I'm in are #mediawiki-i18n, #sopel, #testadminwiki, and #wikipedia-simple [02:10:20] dmehus: It relates to the project I was talking about [06:01:38] RECOVERY - cloud2 APT on cloud2 is OK: APT OK: 100 packages available for upgrade (0 critical updates). [06:07:20] RECOVERY - rdb2 APT on rdb2 is OK: APT OK: 2 packages available for upgrade (0 critical updates). [06:11:32] RECOVERY - cp3 APT on cp3 is OK: APT OK: 1 packages available for upgrade (0 critical updates). [06:11:34] RECOVERY - cp9 APT on cp9 is OK: APT OK: 2 packages available for upgrade (0 critical updates). [06:11:58] RECOVERY - rdb1 APT on rdb1 is OK: APT OK: 2 packages available for upgrade (0 critical updates). [06:12:36] RECOVERY - graylog1 APT on graylog1 is OK: APT OK: 4 packages available for upgrade (0 critical updates). [06:17:55] RECOVERY - ldap1 APT on ldap1 is OK: APT OK: 2 packages available for upgrade (0 critical updates). [06:20:56] RECOVERY - gluster1 APT on gluster1 is OK: APT OK: 1 packages available for upgrade (0 critical updates). [06:22:27] RECOVERY - mw5 APT on mw5 is OK: APT OK: 1 packages available for upgrade (0 critical updates). [06:23:00] RECOVERY - ns1 APT on ns1 is OK: APT OK: 2 packages available for upgrade (0 critical updates). [06:23:34] RECOVERY - ns2 APT on ns2 is OK: APT OK: 2 packages available for upgrade (0 critical updates). [06:24:17] RECOVERY - jobrunner2 APT on jobrunner2 is OK: APT OK: 1 packages available for upgrade (0 critical updates). [06:24:59] RECOVERY - cloud1 APT on cloud1 is OK: APT OK: 99 packages available for upgrade (0 critical updates). [06:26:10] RECOVERY - db12 APT on db12 is OK: APT OK: 51 packages available for upgrade (0 critical updates). [06:26:44] RECOVERY - gluster2 APT on gluster2 is OK: APT OK: 1 packages available for upgrade (0 critical updates). [06:27:18] RECOVERY - phab1 APT on phab1 is OK: APT OK: 2 packages available for upgrade (0 critical updates). [06:29:37] RECOVERY - services1 APT on services1 is OK: APT OK: 2 packages available for upgrade (0 critical updates). [06:30:25] RECOVERY - bacula2 APT on bacula2 is OK: APT OK: 1 packages available for upgrade (0 critical updates). [06:30:59] RECOVERY - mw7 APT on mw7 is OK: APT OK: 1 packages available for upgrade (0 critical updates). [06:31:48] RECOVERY - jobrunner1 APT on jobrunner1 is OK: APT OK: 1 packages available for upgrade (0 critical updates). [06:33:33] RECOVERY - puppet2 APT on puppet2 is OK: APT OK: 2 packages available for upgrade (0 critical updates). [06:34:37] RECOVERY - mw4 APT on mw4 is OK: APT OK: 1 packages available for upgrade (0 critical updates). [06:36:35] RECOVERY - cloud3 APT on cloud3 is OK: APT OK: 80 packages available for upgrade (0 critical updates). [06:37:34] RECOVERY - mw6 APT on mw6 is OK: APT OK: 1 packages available for upgrade (0 critical updates). [06:40:16] RECOVERY - mon1 APT on mon1 is OK: APT OK: 1 packages available for upgrade (0 critical updates). [06:40:34] RECOVERY - db13 APT on db13 is OK: APT OK: 2 packages available for upgrade (0 critical updates). [06:42:04] RECOVERY - db11 APT on db11 is OK: APT OK: 51 packages available for upgrade (0 critical updates). [06:42:23] RECOVERY - services2 APT on services2 is OK: APT OK: 2 packages available for upgrade (0 critical updates). [06:42:28] RECOVERY - test2 APT on test2 is OK: APT OK: 2 packages available for upgrade (0 critical updates). [06:43:22] RECOVERY - cp6 APT on cp6 is OK: APT OK: 1 packages available for upgrade (0 critical updates). [06:49:28] RECOVERY - cp7 APT on cp7 is OK: APT OK: 1 packages available for upgrade (0 critical updates). [06:50:34] RECOVERY - mail1 APT on mail1 is OK: APT OK: 2 packages available for upgrade (0 critical updates). [07:00:13] [02miraheze/services] 07MirahezeSSLBot pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/JtClj [07:00:14] [02miraheze/services] 07MirahezeSSLBot 038bf2b39 - BOT: Updating services config for wikis [08:10:13] [02miraheze/services] 07MirahezeSSLBot pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/JtCRe [08:10:15] [02miraheze/services] 07MirahezeSSLBot 035ff60f9 - BOT: Updating services config for wikis [09:08:42] PROBLEM - ns1 NTP time on ns1 is CRITICAL: CHECK_NRPE STATE CRITICAL: Socket timeout after 10 seconds. [09:10:38] RECOVERY - ns1 NTP time on ns1 is OK: NTP OK: Offset -0.001778036356 secs [09:33:58] RECOVERY - mw6 Puppet on mw6 is OK: OK: Puppet is currently enabled, last run 12 seconds ago with 0 failures [09:34:21] RECOVERY - jobrunner2 Puppet on jobrunner2 is OK: OK: Puppet is currently enabled, last run 52 seconds ago with 0 failures [09:35:02] RECOVERY - test2 Puppet on test2 is OK: OK: Puppet is currently enabled, last run 1 minute ago with 0 failures [09:35:20] RECOVERY - mw4 Puppet on mw4 is OK: OK: Puppet is currently enabled, last run 1 minute ago with 0 failures [09:35:25] RECOVERY - jobrunner1 Puppet on jobrunner1 is OK: OK: Puppet is currently enabled, last run 1 minute ago with 0 failures [09:35:27] RECOVERY - mw5 Puppet on mw5 is OK: OK: Puppet is currently enabled, last run 1 minute ago with 0 failures [09:35:35] RECOVERY - mw7 Puppet on mw7 is OK: OK: Puppet is currently enabled, last run 1 minute ago with 0 failures [11:35:12] [02miraheze/services] 07MirahezeSSLBot pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/JtCKW [11:35:14] [02miraheze/services] 07MirahezeSSLBot 03efad399 - BOT: Updating services config for wikis [12:07:16] Hello Guest60! If you have any questions, feel free to ask and someone should answer soon. [12:07:42] !op [12:07:46] ?op [13:18:44] Hello kiwi_80! If you have any questions, feel free to ask and someone should answer soon. [13:19:02] !h [13:19:06] !help [13:19:37] .op [13:19:38] RhinosF2: Access Denied. If in error, please contact the channel founder. [13:19:50] .op [13:19:50] RhinosF2: Access Denied. If in error, please contact the channel founder. [13:20:08] Reception123: ^ [13:21:14] Reception123 I need an help. [14:34:52] PROBLEM - cloud1 Current Load on cloud1 is WARNING: WARNING - load average: 20.89, 16.11, 12.70 [14:36:52] RECOVERY - cloud1 Current Load on cloud1 is OK: OK - load average: 10.74, 14.08, 12.39 [16:11:12] RhinosF1|NotHere: Do you have a sec? [16:14:29] Look at my nick [16:14:31] .op [16:14:31] Attempting to OP... [16:15:10] that's fair [16:15:52] RhinosF1|NotHere: When you get a sec, I need a bit of help with Apache. My Terminal can't unzip the `tar.gz` archive, can I do it manually? [16:16:14] use apt-get [16:18:05] ? [16:18:26] RhinosF1|NotHere: What do you mean? [16:18:42] sudo apt-get apache2 [16:18:51] Ok, thanks [16:18:56] Will work on Linux based servers [16:19:09] There's few reasons to compile from source for most users [16:19:10] I'm on macOS 11, so.... [16:19:25] Have you used home brew [16:19:28] yes [16:19:35] I installed it yesterday [16:20:31] Apache should come in with [16:20:48] guesses RhinosF1 is talking to blackwidowmovie0 as it looks like he's talking to himself [16:21:04] Yep [16:21:11] 👍 [16:21:14] do I need to install PHP? [16:21:24] Try https://tecadmin.net/install-apache-macos-homebrew/ [16:21:24] [ How to Install Apache on macOS via Homebrew – TecAdmin ] - tecadmin.net [16:21:30] Depends if you're using PHP [16:21:58] ok [16:22:14] I installed Apache on an Oracle Linux VM on my Windows machine, but I couldn't get the shared networking with my host PC working right. 😛 [16:22:46] one sec [16:27:17] RhinosF1|NotHere: It worked, but I can't find the config file `/usr/local/etc/httpd/httpd.conf` [16:27:25] to configure it [16:27:40] Use the go to file function [16:27:55] where? [16:28:09] In finder [16:28:21] doing... [16:28:41] the search bar? [16:29:31] RhinosF1|NotHere: Found it, it was go to folder [16:32:17] Yes that [16:33:47] RhinosF1|NotHere: Did that, but it's not showing the file I need to change on path `/usr/local/var/www` [16:35:18] Where is that? [16:36:27] RhinosF1|NotHere: This is what I see https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/1z9IlMu9/Path.png [16:45:31] .tell blackwidowmovie0 not sure [16:45:31] RhinosF1|NotHere: I'll pass that on when blackwidowmovie0 is around. [16:45:38] IPv6 just gave up [16:55:40] Is Freenode or IRCCloud down? I'm on my 12th connection attempt trying to connect to chat.freenode.net, and it's not me as my connection has no issues. [16:56:52] Will try signing out, closing web browser, and signing back in. [16:57:14] Doug [16:57:15] blackwidowmovie0: 2021-01-27 - 16:45:31UTC tell blackwidowmovie0 not sure [16:57:52] RhinosF1|NotHere: Ok, thanks. I need to do something with the user groups quickly, then I'm good [17:00:14] dmehus: Do you use IRCCloud? [17:02:51] @Doug It's an IRCCloud issue. freenode is fine. [17:03:57] Okay, thanks. 🙂 [17:10:58] RhinosF1: It's asking me to `Set the 'ServerName' directive globally to suppress this message` [17:11:02] how do I do that? [17:11:08] RhinosF1|NotHere: ^ [17:14:11] !sre Getting 504 throughout Miraheze [17:14:16] RhinosF1|NotHere: solved [17:15:29] * RhinosF1|NotHere here [17:15:36] What's solved and what's outstanding [17:15:56] IRCCloud have networking faults with ipv6 [17:16:09] Set your server to chat.ipv4.freenode.net to work [17:16:16] RhinosF1|NotHere: First, possibly rename your username so it's not so hard to work [17:16:18] doing [17:16:25] Rhinos: Apache done [17:16:27] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Installing_MediaWiki#Upload_files_to_your_server [17:16:31] this is next, I think [17:17:31] I'm not supposed to be here [17:18:05] what do you mean? [17:18:49] RhinosF1|NotHere: ^ [17:19:13] blackwidowmovie0: I'm not changing my nick [17:19:38] RhinosF1|NotHere: Fair enough. Uploading files is next [17:20:17] blackwidowmovie0: type git clone https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki.git --depth=1 [17:20:17] [ GitHub - wikimedia/mediawiki: 🌻 The collaborative editing software that runs Wikipedia. Mirror from https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/g/mediawiki/core. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_access f ] - github.com [17:20:36] where [17:20:40] terminal? [17:20:45] With terminal [17:20:57] ok [17:20:57] But in the right directory for Apache [17:21:11] what's the full code? [17:22:05] git clone https://GitHub.Com/wikimedia/mediawiki.git /usr/local/var/www --depth=1 [17:22:06] [ GitHub - wikimedia/mediawiki: 🌻 The collaborative editing software that runs Wikipedia. Mirror from https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/g/mediawiki/core. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_access f ] - GitHub.Com [17:22:10] Should work [17:22:22] thanks [17:22:32] `fatal: destination path '/usr/local/var/www' already exists and is not an empty directory.` [17:23:15] RhinosF1|NotHere: ^ [17:23:49] What's in it? [17:24:59] RhinosF1|NotHere: `index.html` and a folder called `cgi-bin` [17:25:14] Just delete them [17:25:32] Delete the www folder [17:26:01] Ok [17:26:35] RhinosF1|NotHere: Done [17:26:43] trying again [17:27:19] done [17:27:21] what then [17:27:59] I'm back. [17:28:17] dmehus: Welcome back [17:28:20] ty [17:28:28] RhinosF1|NotHere: Done, what next [17:28:34] dmehus: You're on ipv4? [17:29:33] blackwidowmovie0: start Apache up and open 127.0.0.1/install.php [17:29:42] That's technically not advised [17:29:45] Hmm [17:30:10] We should have done www/w [17:30:22] @blackwidowmovie0 Not sure why that'd matter? [17:30:48] RhinosF1|NotHere: If possible, I'd like the wiki to be wizardwiki.org/wiki/$1, not wizardwiki.org/index.php/$1, if possible [17:30:59] dmehus: I believe freenode was partially affected [17:31:20] blackwidowmovie0: you can read the instructions [17:31:26] RhinosF1|NotHere: I can re-clone [17:31:28] if you want [17:31:31] dmehus: irc cloud's ipv6 failed [17:31:38] Up to you [17:31:51] * RhinosF1|NotHere is going back to being busy [17:32:03] RhinosF1|NotHere: So....how do I upload, though? [17:32:13] is it www or www/w [17:32:18] @RhinosF1 Weird. Must've been something else as I definitely don't use IPv6. They probably had a database server fail again as well [17:32:19] www/w [17:32:29] So....reclone [17:32:33] dmehus: you will use ipv6 [17:32:44] I don't though. [17:33:01] I use IPv4. [17:33:20] RhinosF1|NotHere: The default is www, how do I change? [17:33:26] `type git clone https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki.git --depth=1` [17:33:51] dmehus: irc cloud -> freenode part [17:33:58] Not you to irc cloud [17:34:02] blackwidowmovie0: I'm busy [17:34:26] Reception123: Are you available? [17:35:33] Universal_Omega: Are you available? [17:35:58] @RhinosF1 Ah, okay, that makes sense. Thanks. :) [17:36:59] RhinosF1|NotHere: Ping me when available :) [17:38:08] We really should arguably move this discussion to #miraheze-offtopic when RhinosF1 is again available [17:48:15] blackwidowmovie0: why did you feel the need to ping 3 different people at once? is there something urgent? [17:48:49] Reception123: I pinged two, and there are 2 issues. One is I'm getting `Error 504`s all over Miraheze [17:49:06] and the other is I need help with installing MediaWiki [17:49:26] blackwidowmovie0: you pinged: me, Universal Omega and Rhinos F1, that's 3 [17:49:54] 504 is weird, it works for me, have you tried restarting your browser? [17:50:00] RhinosF1 was working with me eariler [17:50:20] There was no need to ping Universal_Omega, though, tbh [17:50:35] Reception123: I did restart browser. I'm getting it on all of the community wikis, except for devwiki [17:50:58] I'm also getting it on a bunch of my wikis [17:51:06] and allthetropeswiki [17:51:12] @blackwidowmovie0 Are you using a proxy at all? (Not sure what a 504 error is) [17:51:21] 504 Gateway Timeout [17:51:27] hrm [17:51:29] dmehus: No proxy atm [17:51:35] ok [17:52:10] Try clearing your cookies. Switching between proxy and no proxy could possibly cause a cookie configuration issue. [17:52:20] tried as well [17:52:29] ok [17:53:05] Did you go to Special:UserLogout in incognito mode, delete all cookies, when go to Special:UserLogin first in incognito mode and then in normal browser mode? [17:53:31] s/all cookies/all Miraheze cookies [17:53:31] dmehus meant to say: Did you go to Special:UserLogout in incognito mode, delete all Miraheze cookies, when go to Special:UserLogin first in incognito mode and then in normal browser mode? [17:53:38] I logged in in incognito [17:53:44] ok [17:53:53] it worked partially [17:54:03] Try that again in that order just for troubleshooting. [17:54:08] Ok [17:54:59] Sequence: [17:54:59] --------- [17:54:59] 1) Special:UserLogout in incognito mode [17:54:59] 2) Delete all cookies [17:54:59] 3) Special:UserLogin first in incognito mode [17:54:59] 4) Special:UserLogin in normal browser mode? [17:55:23] 1. [17:55:24] Done [17:55:26] 2. Done [17:55:32] 3. Done now [17:55:35] 4. Doing [17:56:10] 4. Done [17:56:18] dmehus: Fixed, thank you [17:56:27] 👍 Great, and no problem :) [19:04:17] PROBLEM - jobrunner2 APT on jobrunner2 is CRITICAL: APT CRITICAL: 3 packages available for upgrade (2 critical updates). [19:04:25] PROBLEM - test2 APT on test2 is CRITICAL: APT CRITICAL: 4 packages available for upgrade (2 critical updates). [19:04:39] PROBLEM - mw4 APT on mw4 is CRITICAL: APT CRITICAL: 3 packages available for upgrade (2 critical updates). [19:04:59] PROBLEM - mw7 APT on mw7 is CRITICAL: APT CRITICAL: 3 packages available for upgrade (2 critical updates). [19:05:17] PROBLEM - jobrunner1 APT on jobrunner1 is CRITICAL: APT CRITICAL: 3 packages available for upgrade (2 critical updates). [19:05:34] PROBLEM - mw6 APT on mw6 is CRITICAL: APT CRITICAL: 3 packages available for upgrade (2 critical updates). [19:06:28] PROBLEM - mw5 APT on mw5 is CRITICAL: APT CRITICAL: 3 packages available for upgrade (2 critical updates). [19:15:24] RhinosF1|NotHere: You still busy? [19:15:30] Yes [19:16:16] ok [19:19:46] RhinosF1|NotHere: Just so I stop being annoying, could you set aside 20-30 minutes to help me with deploying MediaWiki? [19:20:01] No [19:20:47] OK [19:23:45] PROBLEM - kk.uncyc.tk - reverse DNS on sslhost is CRITICAL: rDNS CRITICAL - kk.uncyc.tk All nameservers failed to answer the query. [19:30:42] RECOVERY - kk.uncyc.tk - reverse DNS on sslhost is OK: rDNS OK - kk.uncyc.tk reverse DNS resolves to cp7.miraheze.org [19:49:38] RhinosF1|NotHere: Do you mind giving me an estimate of *when* you'll be free? [19:57:15] blackwidowmovie0: something i can help with? [19:58:19] Zppix: Yeah, I'm having trouble installing MediaWiki on my domain [19:58:58] do you know how to do that? [19:59:21] We do not provide support for that, you will have to use #mediawiki or another support option that Wikimedia provides [19:59:41] Ok, thank [19:59:43] *thanks [20:03:41] @Zppix RhinosF1 was helping blackwidowmovie0 in a non-official capacity, on an as-available, as-free basis. @blackwidowmovie0, I would suggest just waiting until tomorrow and nicely ask RhinosF1 then if he can assist you with carrying on your configuration at that point [20:05:13] PROBLEM - cloud1 Current Load on cloud1 is WARNING: WARNING - load average: 20.96, 20.92, 17.94 [20:07:10] RECOVERY - cloud1 Current Load on cloud1 is OK: OK - load average: 15.27, 18.74, 17.50 [20:15:21] Can I suggest this discussion to be moved to -offtopic, please? [20:20:22] @R4356th It seems essentially over, but I did already suggest that ^. So I'd suggest we just drop it here, and the parties can pick it up in #miraheze-offtopic later [20:22:33] Sounds good. It is just because I noticed roughly seventy messages relayed (which means that there is going to be a pretty bigger number in the IRC logs) only on this off-topic discussion. [20:27:23] [02miraheze/DataDump] 07paladox pushed 031 commit to 03paladox-patch-1 [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/JtWmd [20:27:25] [02miraheze/DataDump] 07paladox 031d056a8 - Update SpecialDataDump.php [20:27:26] [02DataDump] 07paladox synchronize pull request 03#18: Minor tweaks - 13https://git.io/JtcN1 [20:28:27] miraheze/DataDump - paladox the build passed. [20:50:49] [02miraheze/CreateWiki] 07JohnFLewis pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/JtWOJ [20:50:51] [02miraheze/CreateWiki] 07JohnFLewis 0306a282b - Don't send two notifications for declined requests [20:51:57] miraheze/CreateWiki - JohnFLewis the build passed. [20:52:43] [02miraheze/mediawiki] 07JohnFLewis pushed 031 commit to 03REL1_35 [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/JtWOT [20:52:45] [02miraheze/mediawiki] 07JohnFLewis 03adfe320 - CW [20:55:47] PROBLEM - ping4 on cp3 is CRITICAL: PING CRITICAL - Packet loss = 0%, RTA = 321.02 ms [21:03:24] dmehus: Can I be unblocked quickly to put an RfC on Meta for closure of all Reception Wikis? [21:03:52] blackwidowmovie0: you won't be unblocked just to do one thing, that's not how it works [21:03:55] No [21:03:55] PROBLEM - ping4 on cp3 is WARNING: PING WARNING - Packet loss = 0%, RTA = 280.83 ms [21:04:07] https://rottenwebsites.miraheze.org/wiki/False_Rape_Accusations this is just one example of off-topic articles. violations of the Content Policy are huge on these wikis [21:04:24] they spread hate, and I don't even know why they're still here [21:04:30] ^ dmehus [21:04:44] blackwidowmovie0: if wikis are violating the Content Policy, you should report that and that will be dealt with [21:05:23] Reception123: Ok, if I see any more content violations, I'll report it. Suggestion: A `!steward` stalkword [21:05:50] Or you could properly report it by emailing them [21:05:56] RECOVERY - ping4 on cp3 is OK: PING OK - Packet loss = 0%, RTA = 233.37 ms [21:06:52] today's lol: that ! command pinged me because I had it in my ping list [21:07:12] blackwidowmovie0: you don't need to suggest commands that have been proposed for months [21:07:34] revi: Whoops, sorry :) [21:07:35] Paging commands are already planned and I've said it numerous times [21:07:50] RhinosF1|NotHere: I haven't seen anything [21:07:52] no need to be sorry [21:07:55] justlolz [21:08:04] 😂 [21:08:16] blackwidowmovie0: dmehus has asked me about a hundred times before. [21:08:31] RhinosF1|NotHere: Not kidding, I've literally never seen it [21:08:49] Fair enough [21:08:50] but anyway, individual users can set that stalkword to ping them [21:08:58] there's not necessarily a need to have a bot manually ping the users [21:08:58] revi: Are you in #miraheze-offtopic [21:09:09] no [21:09:09] Reception123: Yeah, I just figured that out 👍🏽 [21:09:16] revi: Mind joining quickly [21:09:23] maybe via discord but not from here [21:09:24] They're on the discord end [21:09:32] Which you're not allowed in [21:10:17] which is why I would ask someone available in #miraheze-offtopic [21:10:24] one more channel means one more channel to rejoin at reconnect so [21:10:39] revi: your website is a wiki, I need help setting up a wiki with mw 1.35.1 [21:10:43] if you're available [21:10:59] I use miraheze (too lazy to do that settings) [21:11:04] I asked RF1, he's busy this week [21:11:14] revi: That's miraheze? [21:11:20] it is miraheze (see bottom) [21:11:21] PROBLEM - mw4 Puppet on mw4 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL: Puppet has 1 failures. Last run 2 minutes ago with 1 failures. Failed resources (up to 3 shown): Exec[git_pull_MediaWiki core] [21:11:24] Ah, ok [21:11:26] PROBLEM - jobrunner1 Puppet on jobrunner1 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL: Puppet has 1 failures. Last run 3 minutes ago with 1 failures. Failed resources (up to 3 shown): Exec[git_pull_MediaWiki core] [21:11:30] even tho mine is quite a fishbowl [21:11:35] PROBLEM - mw7 Puppet on mw7 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL: Puppet has 1 failures. Last run 2 minutes ago with 1 failures. Failed resources (up to 3 shown): Exec[git_pull_MediaWiki core] [21:11:50] If you know someone that can help me with a wiki, please do have them find me :0 [21:12:00] PROBLEM - mw6 Puppet on mw6 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL: Puppet has 1 failures. Last run 2 minutes ago with 1 failures. Failed resources (up to 3 shown): Exec[git_pull_MediaWiki core] [21:12:15] blackwidowmovie0: you shouldn't have got yourself banned [21:12:20] it isn't really an easy task to set up your own wiki, which is why many do choose us [21:13:22] Or too lazy to maintain the underlying server (the reason I ditched my own server's apache) [21:13:27] PROBLEM - mw5 Puppet on mw5 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL: Puppet has 1 failures. Last run 3 minutes ago with 1 failures. Failed resources (up to 3 shown): Exec[git_pull_MediaWiki core] [21:13:33] Reception123: Yes, that's why I have most of my wikis on Miraheze [21:13:55] (especially the upgrading mw) [21:14:06] RhinosF1|NotHere: Thank you for your wisdom. I shouldn't have got myself banned. [21:14:29] revi: Yeah, I'm worried on how to maintain that [21:14:32] blackwidowmovie0: then why the need for another privately hosted one? [21:14:37] isn't it too much of a hassle? [21:15:03] Reception123: I'm setting it up from scratch with a colleague. I just want to try it out, see how it works [21:15:09] just fun [21:15:19] Updating MediaWiki varies in difficulty [21:15:49] I wouldn't know how, and the manuals are for someone who knows code and can tell how to do this [21:16:03] I'm confused and mindblown at the complexity of it [21:16:04] You've got a git clone [21:16:30] I don't know what that fully means [21:16:34] So just git reset --hard origin/REL1_3 && git pull [21:16:40] Should work [21:16:50] Assuming you don't fiddle with extensions [21:16:53] I think I installed MW in a web hosting (not VPS) when I had no idea what linux was [21:19:15] RhinosF1|NotHere: I have apache set up, but PHP is impossible, and getting the files uploaded to MySQL.... [21:19:50] * hispano76 greet [21:19:52] PHP is not impossible [21:20:05] And getting files uploaded to MySQL makes no sense [21:20:06] idk how [21:20:10] Google [21:20:13] I need sleep [21:20:19] I need to get my files uploaded to the web server [21:20:57] Depends on what software you're using [21:21:07] A lot of web hosts have 1 click install [21:21:17] I'm not using a hoster [21:21:29] I'm doing it completely from scratch [21:21:48] You need a host [21:22:09] I'm gonna assume your MacBook doesn't have a static IP and gets turned off at night [21:22:22] @RhinosF1 What did I ask you a hundred times before? [21:22:41] dmehus: about the ! steward ping [21:22:46] That [21:22:47] (don't use it or else it will ping re vi :P) [21:23:00] Yes he got told with ops [21:23:01] RhinosF1|NotHere: Yes [21:23:09] He annoyed Matth.ew [21:23:09] * hispano76 see [21:23:17] ? [21:23:42] blackwidowmovie0: yes to you have a static IP and your laptop is on 24/7 [21:24:05] @blackwidowmovie0 I looked at https://rottenwebsites.miraheze.org/wiki/False_Rape_Accusations, and I don't see any issues. Ignoring the fact that I agree with what's written on that page, it's still related to that wiki as that wiki may be writing about the websites of the #MeToo and #TimesUp movements, for example. In any case, there's no Content Policy issue here. [21:24:05] And no, you may not be unblocked to start an RfC. [21:24:05] [ False Rape Accusations - Rotten Websites Wiki ] - rottenwebsites.miraheze.org [21:24:34] I agree with dmehus here, I don't really see what you think is problematic with that page and what part of it would violate the CP [21:24:39] RhinosF1|NotHere: yes [21:24:54] disagreement with an article does not mean it shouldn't exist [21:24:56] dmehus: that's fine, but I believe it's spreading hate [21:24:59] the whole wiki [21:25:16] blackwidowmovie0: well you should provide specific examples of that [21:25:30] @Reception123 Can we set a stalkword that applies to all users in a group? I wouldn't mind that actually. Take it out of MirahezeBots. [21:25:35] Reception123: I agree with the article (partially), but it's not just that page, the entire wiki is dedicated to spreading hate about websites [21:25:49] and tv shows on worstshows [21:25:52] blackwidowmovie0: why is that a problem though? It's not about people [21:25:55] and games on crappygames [21:26:04] people have freedom of speech to criticize things [21:26:07] @RhinosF1 Oh that's what I asked you about a hundred times...slight exaggeration, but yes [21:26:17] Reception123: It could still offend a lot of people who could have created the games/shows [21:26:18] why should we censure wikis that simply criticize games, tv shows or organisations? [21:26:36] Reception123: Because it's only a fraction less than criticizing people [21:27:06] Which is fine [21:27:07] blackwidowmovie0: but criticizing people is also not "barred", what we don't accept here are unsourced and unfounded claims about people [21:27:17] which could be considered libel [21:27:28] but criticism in itself is not banned in any way [21:27:31] By the way, while I remember, dmehus: or Reception123: Can you close the requests on [[Meta:RfP]] [21:27:42] Critiquing people isn't forbidden, it's a freedom of speech aspect which Miraheze stands up for [21:27:44] Reception123: People are being rude to their own members of the wiki [21:27:53] I don't stand by rudeness [21:28:05] @Reception123 ah, thanks [21:28:26] blackwidowmovie0: those are very vague statements, and if someone feels like they are being harassed or such, they should contact us via email with proof [21:28:32] @Reception123 lol because revi has it set up for himself in the WMF channels? :P [21:28:36] simply saying "these wikis are bad", "these people are terrible" isn't going to lead anywhere [21:28:38] dmehus: heh, yes [21:28:48] There's no policy against critique, there's policy against making unfounded accusations against people or spreading lies [21:29:00] Reception123: Spaz0461 or something was being harassed for a mistake he made 5 years ago. I can relate..... [21:29:32] blackwidowmovie0: well in that case, he could have contacted us via email and we would have looked into it [21:29:37] @blackwidowmovie0 Part of `rottenwebsiteswiki` may have issues, but I've reviewed many pages on the wiki, and it's not a systemic issue. As such, you must identify specific problem pages. The one you identified is not one of them, thou [21:29:49] we can't do anything if we we're not told [21:30:15] I was doing sth else and don't get the ping context lol ( @ dmehus ) [21:30:16] The content policy is specifically wrote to allow you to be critical of a business [21:30:20] Or product [21:30:22] what helps are specific examples and proof of any inappropriate behavior. Generalized statements don't help us [21:30:25] Reception123: You were told (although in a subtle manner), when spaz requested a lock [21:30:44] @Reception123, I think you meant censor wikis, not censure wikis? Though in that context, we should not censure wikis unnecessarily, nor should we censor them [21:30:53] dmehus: yes, censor, sorry [21:31:14] blackwidowmovie0: by "you" I guess you mean us a whole, but I'm not aware of any examples of harassement being produced [21:31:38] I read that thread and no examples were given [21:31:47] and with currently 4016, it's not possible for us to monitor every single one for inappropriate behavior [21:31:54] it's up to users to report that to us [21:31:54] Reception123: There were attacking comments (now deleted by wiki sysops) by people on the wiki [21:32:07] @blackwidowmovie0 That's a user conduct problem, then, not a problem with the wiki [21:32:39] @Reception123 heh np [21:33:20] Reception123: a remedy for not being able to patrol all wikis is to expand the CVT [21:33:32] With who [21:33:35] @revi what was "I was doing sth else and don't get the ping context lol ( @ dmehus )" in reply to? [21:33:35] and how? [21:33:45] I can't think of anyone who has the time that could fulfil that role [21:33:58] Reception123: Nominate people, but we don't have enough members, and that's why things get missed [21:34:12] Yes but who would we nominate [21:34:15] We do suffer from a low number of regular volunteers [21:34:24] even if we did find more people to be Global Sysops, people reporting things to us would still be vital [21:34:29] RhinosF1|NotHere: I have enough time, which is why I will pursue it when I am unblocked....for the good of Miraheze and so things like this don't get missed [21:34:30] @blackwidowmovie0 You discussed a global rollbacker group yesterday. There's no need to keep discussing it every day [21:34:38] it would be impossible to monitor every single forum and discussion board [21:34:42] blackwidowmovie0: yes but your blocked [21:34:52] RhinosF1|NotHere: Point being when I am unblocked [21:34:57] And GS requires quite a high vote [21:35:04] Reception123: We can try and monitor the most problematic ones [21:35:05] And while this may be harsh, I'm sorry to say that it won't be easy for someone who was blocked to request GS [21:35:18] dmehus: reception told me in pm [21:35:21] RECOVERY - mw4 Puppet on mw4 is OK: OK: Puppet is currently enabled, last run 51 seconds ago with 0 failures [21:35:26] @revi oh heh [21:35:27] RECOVERY - jobrunner1 Puppet on jobrunner1 is OK: OK: Puppet is currently enabled, last run 1 minute ago with 0 failures [21:35:28] RECOVERY - mw5 Puppet on mw5 is OK: OK: Puppet is currently enabled, last run 1 minute ago with 0 failures [21:35:42] RECOVERY - mw7 Puppet on mw7 is OK: OK: Puppet is currently enabled, last run 1 minute ago with 0 failures [21:35:55] * RhinosF1|NotHere goes off to sleep, please don't wake me up early [21:36:01] RECOVERY - mw6 Puppet on mw6 is OK: OK: Puppet is currently enabled, last run 1 minute ago with 0 failures [21:36:01] Reception123: That's ok. I try to do the best I can, and if it means GS, great. If it doesn't, then it doesn't [21:36:04] Good night [21:36:13] !night Sario [21:36:13] Good night, sweet dreams and dream of the miraheze servers without errors! [21:36:25] oh the supreme night command [21:36:34] lol, that's great [21:36:48] Reception123: This conversation may be unproductive in itself, but it highlights systemic issues with the way Miraheze patrols wikis [21:36:57] revi: yes, I saw it recently when I was looking at something regarding wm-bot :D [21:36:58] !night RhinosF1 [21:36:58] Good night, sweet dreams and dream of the miraheze servers without errors! [21:37:05] !night Sario [21:37:05] Good night, sweet dreams and dream of the miraheze servers without errors! [21:38:02] * RhinosF1|NotHere just asked not be pinged but now he's disturbed - it highlights an issue with any online platform that isn't moderated before post not Miraheze [21:38:15] blackwidowmovie0: even if we brought in 5 magic Global Sysops over night, we would *still* need users reporting any wrongdoing to us [21:38:30] Reception123: It would be easier [21:38:39] Reception123: yeah I think i was the one setting that up lol [21:38:48] @RhinosF1 just turn off your phone [21:39:00] * RhinosF1|NotHere slams head on pillow [21:39:02] Do Not Disturb FTW [21:39:08] or that [21:39:18] Try to avoid pinging me [21:39:21] yes [21:39:22] /kick RhinosF1|NotHere [21:39:25] Like make half an effort please [21:39:27] [21:39:42] dmehus: .kick [21:39:45] I always set it and allow some contacts and urgent pings to go thru [21:40:04] revi, ah [21:40:09] * RhinosF1|NotHere slams head even harder on pillow at the deliberate pinging by Doug [21:40:10] (ie. family/closeeeeee friend and 'HEY SERVER DOWN BOY WAKE UP' alarms) [21:40:40] for example the revibot @ miraheze going down [21:41:05] RhinosF1: Just set DND [21:41:25] Or stop pinging me [21:41:28] Lol..... [21:41:30] blackwidowmovie0 is on ignore [21:41:31] He has asked repeatedly to stop pinging him [21:41:41] at least when they ask not to be pinged, respect that wish [21:41:44] I'm not the only one pinging [21:41:52] you can stop the chain [21:41:54] at least [21:41:56] And anyone else who continues to that isn't an emergency will also be on ignore [21:42:06] revi: It's RhinosF1|Not_here, not RhinosF1 [21:42:13] it shouldn't ping [21:42:20] most people add their base nick as ping word [21:42:28] ^^ [21:42:36] interesting [21:42:41] * RhinosF1|NotHere stalks icinga anyway so that is not an emergency [21:44:52] .tell RhinosF1 [21:45:23] wow... [21:45:45] revi: It's a workaround [21:45:52] .tell RhinosF1 to /quit [21:45:59] do you not have basic level of decency? why are you trying to find a way to do something people asked not to? [21:46:16] revi: You should talk.... [21:46:34] wow. just wow. [21:46:50] revi: It doesn't work anyway [21:46:57] MirahezeBot ignores me [21:47:39] I now have 2 people on ignore [21:47:59] who? [21:48:13] .op [21:48:28] dmehus: Why .op? [21:48:38] and you should just turn off your phone, $those-who-wish-not-to-be-pinged [21:48:55] or set some no-sound something [21:49:12] I use it to listen to music while I fall asleep [21:49:24] Then set DND [21:49:28] yesssssss [21:49:29] ^^ [21:49:31] for an hour or something [21:49:41] @RhinosF1|NotHere why did you kick blackwidowmovie0 from #miraheze? [21:50:03] (blame your phone manufacturer if they don't have that functionality) [21:50:34] Lol my phone has been blowing up with every message here and on Discord relay lol. [21:50:44] dmehus: Don't ping the angry rhino 😂 [21:51:10] Universal_Omega: So you see every message twice? One in Discord, one in IRC? [21:51:37] If they are in discord relay yes. [21:51:38] not yours blackwidowmovie0 [21:51:49] dmehus: Yep, I know [21:52:05] dmehus: Why're you opped? [21:53:29] who is pinging me? [21:53:39] I keep on hearing pings, but I'm not seeing anything [21:54:06] IRC or Discord? [21:54:09] IRC [21:54:21] huh, idk [21:54:22] I just heard 20-ish pings [21:54:30] none of your business [21:54:35] Maybe you have audible notifications for all messages, not just mentions? [21:54:42] (as for why doug is opped) [21:54:52] ^ :thistbh: [21:54:59] Discord will sometimes ping you if you're mentioned in a channel you don't have access to [21:55:04] dmehus: I haven't even seen 20 messages go through as I've heard the pings [21:55:31] maybe you accidentally pinged yourself? No clue really [21:55:31] Sario: I don't have desktop notifications enabled for Discord, and the tab isn't open [21:55:41] dmehus: That makes no sense [21:55:51] dmehus: You guys talking about me in #miraheze-staff? [21:55:52] @dmehus, testing [21:55:56] Technology is weird [21:56:25] Sario: Please say that again [21:56:51] That again? [21:56:51] Technology is weird [21:57:22] Umbire: I am getting pinged for nothing on IRC [21:57:46] at least IRCCloud have a settings `notify on all messages` [21:58:49] revi, yeah that's what I was wondering if blackwidowmovie0 has that checked [21:59:18] dmehus: I do, apparently [21:59:21] unchecked [22:03:15] dmehus: I'm seeing an unusual number of new accounts {{Support}}ing Integer's request for Wiki creator [22:03:18] BenPlenty [22:03:42] RONALDOFAN [22:04:47] I believe Cocopuff2018's alt is BenPlenty [22:04:57] dmehus: See #miraheze-cvt [22:05:08] [02miraheze/mediawiki] 07paladox pushed 031 commit to 03REL1_35 [+0/-0/±5] 13https://git.io/JtWGQ [22:05:09] [02miraheze/mediawiki] 07paladox 0303a0beb - Fix fetching ipblock-exempt within BlockManager::getUserBlock Bug: T271551 Bug: T270145 Change-Id: I458b7b6b3f79c5961c01c35677b7b25021e316a0 [22:05:32] @blackwidowmovie0 Please do not cast aspersions, broadly construed, going forward [22:05:51] dmehus: I have a very odd case here [22:20:20] RhinosF1, since you haven't told me why you kicked blackwidowmovie0, this is a procedural kick from this channel. I've checked this kick with at least one other platform moderator. Feel free to rejoin the channel. Nothing personal [22:21:03] .deop [22:36:22] Why are we kicking people for no reason? [22:36:49] "procedural kick" is not a valid reason [22:37:42] i don't condone Rhinos actions [22:38:11] Bur i dont dougs either [22:38:32] 2 wrongs = 0 rights [22:47:19] I understand the intentions of Doug's action, and don't disapprove of his intention which is a light sanction of a moderator for an unexplained/unjustified action [22:49:14] "RhinosF1, since you haven't told me why you kicked blackwidowmovie0, this is a procedural kick from this channel." [22:49:24] JohnLewis: Seemed p. clear to me, yeah. [23:04:54] I don't really have an opinion here. I see dmehus' point for kicking, a light sanction, to JohnLewis' point, but we don't really have procedures on this, so the best rationale would be "light sanction of a moderator", not "procedural kick" [23:17:49] Universal_Omega: Can you create an account for me on Cosmos Example Wiki? [23:21:56] No. [23:23:28] I had an account [23:23:48] Universal_Omega: Cocopuff2018 locked my account [23:32:17] PROBLEM - jobrunner2 APT on jobrunner2 is WARNING: APT WARNING: 0 packages available for upgrade (0 critical updates). warnings detected, errors detected. [23:34:16] PROBLEM - jobrunner2 APT on jobrunner2 is CRITICAL: APT CRITICAL: 3 packages available for upgrade (2 critical updates). [23:41:35] Hello NJ6! If you have any questions, feel free to ask and someone should answer soon. [23:42:11] Hi, I'm new to this so please excuse anything I do wrong [23:42:56] I'm 15 and I'm interested in making a wiki for comparing different versions and ports of video games [23:43:43] I couldn't find any resources that exist for this, so I was looking into making my own [23:44:41] Thing is, I don't know much about making a wiki or hosting one, and I'm not in a position where I can spend money for hosting [23:45:28] I also don't want to take up unnecessary server space or break any rules and cause trouble, so I'm looking for insight [23:46:36] Again, sorry if  did anything wrong [23:48:35] You've not done anything wrong, although it is difficult to have a clear answer for you without any clear question [23:48:46] Oh, my mystake [23:48:53] So, what is it exactly that you want to know? [23:49:07] Does my concept or idea seem feasible at the very least? [23:50:06] as a general comment, your wiki subject sounds like something that can work, and I am aware of a few wikis present on our systems that do something similar for a specific game [23:50:26] [02mediawiki] 07R4356th opened pull request 03#1092: Install Logofunctions (T6766) - 13https://git.io/JtWWu [23:50:26] Or, another way to ask, does this seem like an idea that a 15 year old would be able to set up and keep alive? [23:52:27] Well, I'd say that's up to you really, there's plenty of personal projects that get created for all sorts of reasons. We can help out with various bits here and there, but as far as keeping a project alive is concerned, all we really care about is that there is an edit every few months or so. [23:53:02] Ok cool, because I'd be having to balance this on top of school and stuff [23:53:56] Since people likely wont show up for a bit, I'd be the one having to work on it constantly, so I just want to be sure it's a managable goal you know? [23:54:35] Yup, it shouldn [23:54:35] oops [23:55:58] Thank you for your assistance, I'll likely look into creating the wiki after spending more time preparing [23:56:01] yup, it shouldn't be a terribly large load, as we don't really require you to have any sort of progress completed, it's just a you handle it as you go kind of thing [23:56:04] Oh, one more thing [23:57:03] Since Miraheze runs on MediaWiki, would I be able to work on it privately on my own computer before uploading? [23:58:36] Hmm, there isn't really an "offline editor," so to speak. For the most part, you create your changes in your browser and they go live immediately. You can create pages as a sort of sandbox to work on things, but that depends on your setup/workflow. [23:59:17] Ok, that makes sense [23:59:31] Is there anything else you need from me? [23:59:44] Again, sorry for taking up any time