[00:01:32] RECOVERY - cp3 Disk Space on cp3 is OK: DISK OK - free space: / 3855 MB (15% inode=93%); [00:01:41] PROBLEM - cloud2 Current Load on cloud2 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL - load average: 38.28, 26.77, 19.58 [00:07:37] PROBLEM - cloud2 Current Load on cloud2 is WARNING: WARNING - load average: 10.90, 20.87, 20.00 [00:09:36] RECOVERY - cloud2 Current Load on cloud2 is OK: OK - load average: 15.20, 19.50, 19.62 [02:10:21] PROBLEM - jobrunner1 Current Load on jobrunner1 is WARNING: WARNING - load average: 4.55, 5.55, 7.57 [02:14:20] RECOVERY - jobrunner1 Current Load on jobrunner1 is OK: OK - load average: 3.57, 4.46, 6.65 [02:20:20] PROBLEM - jobrunner1 Current Load on jobrunner1 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL - load average: 10.28, 7.00, 6.94 [02:44:20] PROBLEM - jobrunner1 Current Load on jobrunner1 is WARNING: WARNING - load average: 3.57, 6.22, 7.98 [02:48:22] PROBLEM - jobrunner1 Current Load on jobrunner1 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL - load average: 8.74, 6.15, 7.41 [02:50:20] PROBLEM - jobrunner1 Current Load on jobrunner1 is WARNING: WARNING - load average: 7.40, 6.30, 7.31 [02:53:10] PROBLEM - misc1 APT on misc1 is CRITICAL: APT CRITICAL: 28 packages available for upgrade (2 critical updates). [02:54:26] PROBLEM - jobrunner1 Current Load on jobrunner1 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL - load average: 7.90, 8.05, 7.81 [02:56:21] PROBLEM - jobrunner1 Current Load on jobrunner1 is WARNING: WARNING - load average: 7.41, 7.47, 7.61 [02:58:20] PROBLEM - jobrunner1 Current Load on jobrunner1 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL - load average: 10.68, 8.42, 7.93 [03:26:20] PROBLEM - jobrunner1 Current Load on jobrunner1 is WARNING: WARNING - load average: 3.98, 5.18, 7.87 [03:32:20] RECOVERY - jobrunner1 Current Load on jobrunner1 is OK: OK - load average: 4.05, 4.24, 6.56 [05:32:20] PROBLEM - jobrunner1 Current Load on jobrunner1 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL - load average: 9.67, 6.23, 5.01 [05:36:20] RECOVERY - jobrunner1 Current Load on jobrunner1 is OK: OK - load average: 5.52, 6.23, 5.30 [05:59:48] [02miraheze/mw-config] 07Reception123 pushed 031 commit to 03Reception123-patch-1 [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/JJl7w [05:59:49] [02miraheze/mw-config] 07Reception123 03ce3b4d9 - rm anniversary sitenotice sadly it's over now :'( [05:59:51] [02mw-config] 07Reception123 created branch 03Reception123-patch-1 - 13https://git.io/vbvb3 [05:59:52] [02mw-config] 07Reception123 opened pull request 03#3186: rm anniversary sitenotice - 13https://git.io/JJl7r [06:07:14] PROBLEM - jobrunner1 Current Load on jobrunner1 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL - load average: 8.67, 7.59, 6.30 [06:09:10] RECOVERY - jobrunner1 Current Load on jobrunner1 is OK: OK - load average: 5.39, 6.67, 6.11 [06:29:29] [02mw-config] 07Reception123 closed pull request 03#3186: rm anniversary sitenotice - 13https://git.io/JJl7r [06:29:31] [02miraheze/mw-config] 07Reception123 pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/JJldn [06:29:32] [02miraheze/mw-config] 07Reception123 0360624eb - rm anniversary sitenotice (#3186) sadly it's over now :'( [06:29:34] [02miraheze/mw-config] 07Reception123 deleted branch 03Reception123-patch-1 [06:29:35] [02mw-config] 07Reception123 deleted branch 03Reception123-patch-1 - 13https://git.io/vbvb3 [06:37:10] RECOVERY - misc1 APT on misc1 is OK: APT OK: 26 packages available for upgrade (0 critical updates). [08:25:00] PROBLEM - disabled.life - DNS on sslhost is CRITICAL: DNS CRITICAL - expected '2001:41d0:800:1056::2,2001:41d0:800:105a::10,51.77.107.210,51.89.160.142' but got '2001:41d0:800:1056::2,2001:41d0:800:105a::10,51.77.107.210' [08:25:03] PROBLEM - kn.gyaanipedia.co.in - DNS on sslhost is CRITICAL: DNS CRITICAL - expected '2001:41d0:800:1056::2,2001:41d0:800:105a::10,51.77.107.210,51.89.160.142' but got '2001:41d0:800:1056::2,2001:41d0:800:105a::10,51.77.107.210' [08:25:09] PROBLEM - commons.gyaanipedia.co.in - DNS on sslhost is CRITICAL: DNS CRITICAL - expected '2001:41d0:800:1056::2,2001:41d0:800:105a::10,51.77.107.210,51.89.160.142' but got '2001:41d0:800:1056::2,2001:41d0:800:105a::10,51.77.107.210' [08:31:41] RECOVERY - disabled.life - DNS on sslhost is OK: DNS OK: 0.139 seconds response time. sslhost returns 2001:41d0:800:1056::2,2001:41d0:800:105a::10,51.77.107.210,51.89.160.142 [08:31:48] RECOVERY - kn.gyaanipedia.co.in - DNS on sslhost is OK: DNS OK: 0.056 seconds response time. sslhost returns 2001:41d0:800:1056::2,2001:41d0:800:105a::10,51.77.107.210,51.89.160.142 [08:32:07] RECOVERY - commons.gyaanipedia.co.in - DNS on sslhost is OK: DNS OK: 0.034 seconds response time. sslhost returns 2001:41d0:800:1056::2,2001:41d0:800:105a::10,51.77.107.210,51.89.160.142 [08:55:07] "I don't have access to my account, i don't know the password, any other method???" [08:55:10] lol [08:55:26] Are they really that stupid? [09:27:30] Hello Aspita! If you have any questions, feel free to ask and someone should answer soon. [09:29:18] Hello. [09:39:52] PROBLEM - wiki.minkyu.kim - LetsEncrypt on sslhost is WARNING: WARNING - Certificate 'wiki.minkyu.kim' expires in 15 day(s) (Sat 08 Aug 2020 09:34:10 GMT +0000). [09:40:15] [02miraheze/ssl] 07MirahezeSSLBot pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/JJ8UC [09:40:17] [02miraheze/ssl] 07MirahezeSSLBot 038ff4625 - Bot: Update SSL cert for wiki.minkyu.kim [09:53:11] RECOVERY - wiki.minkyu.kim - LetsEncrypt on sslhost is OK: OK - Certificate 'wiki.minkyu.kim' will expire on Wed 21 Oct 2020 08:40:04 GMT +0000. [11:04:24] PROBLEM - cp7 Current Load on cp7 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL - load average: 7.39, 8.02, 4.44 [11:06:20] RECOVERY - cp7 Current Load on cp7 is OK: OK - load average: 1.61, 5.70, 4.01 [11:40:47] hi people [11:40:53] i want to ask something [12:08:56] PROBLEM - jobrunner1 Current Load on jobrunner1 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL - load average: 9.56, 8.05, 6.72 [12:28:22] PROBLEM - jobrunner1 Current Load on jobrunner1 is WARNING: WARNING - load average: 4.21, 5.89, 7.89 [12:36:20] PROBLEM - jobrunner1 Current Load on jobrunner1 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL - load average: 8.46, 7.27, 7.74 [12:38:20] PROBLEM - jobrunner1 Current Load on jobrunner1 is WARNING: WARNING - load average: 6.79, 7.06, 7.61 [12:58:20] RECOVERY - jobrunner1 Current Load on jobrunner1 is OK: OK - load average: 5.03, 6.06, 6.62 [13:01:10] PROBLEM - wiki.starship.digital - LetsEncrypt on sslhost is WARNING: WARNING - Certificate 'wiki.starship.digital' expires in 15 day(s) (Sat 08 Aug 2020 12:55:29 GMT +0000). [13:08:58] [02miraheze/ssl] 07MirahezeSSLBot pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/JJ8Of [13:08:59] [02miraheze/ssl] 07MirahezeSSLBot 03e0d485f - Bot: Update SSL cert for wiki.starship.digital [13:14:36] RECOVERY - wiki.starship.digital - LetsEncrypt on sslhost is OK: OK - Certificate 'wiki.starship.digital' will expire on Wed 21 Oct 2020 12:08:48 GMT +0000. [13:42:26] PROBLEM - jobrunner1 Current Load on jobrunner1 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL - load average: 10.07, 6.68, 5.03 [13:44:22] PROBLEM - jobrunner1 Current Load on jobrunner1 is WARNING: WARNING - load average: 7.19, 6.84, 5.29 [13:46:20] PROBLEM - jobrunner1 Current Load on jobrunner1 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL - load average: 12.35, 8.53, 6.07 [13:48:20] PROBLEM - jobrunner1 Current Load on jobrunner1 is WARNING: WARNING - load average: 7.11, 7.60, 6.01 [13:52:20] PROBLEM - jobrunner1 Current Load on jobrunner1 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL - load average: 11.07, 8.92, 6.86 [13:56:20] RECOVERY - jobrunner1 Current Load on jobrunner1 is OK: OK - load average: 3.78, 6.79, 6.55 [14:16:20] PROBLEM - jobrunner1 Current Load on jobrunner1 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL - load average: 8.04, 6.81, 5.87 [14:19:40] revi: around? [14:20:18] https://dontasktoask.com/en/ [14:20:19] [ Don't ask to ask, just ask ] - dontasktoask.com [14:21:29] revi: is it only Tegal and Sotiale? [14:21:45] Tegel one was demonstrated fake [14:21:55] Sotiale on the other hand is the legit one lol [14:22:20] PROBLEM - jobrunner1 Current Load on jobrunner1 is WARNING: WARNING - load average: 4.66, 6.93, 6.47 [14:22:57] revi: Sotiale is? I assumed the ha ha comment meant it was the troll [14:23:09] No, loooooling at him getting blocked [14:24:20] RECOVERY - jobrunner1 Current Load on jobrunner1 is OK: OK - load average: 4.27, 5.94, 6.16 [14:26:56] Undone [14:29:53] revi: you should have asked for them to be unblocked [14:30:18] he told me just let it be so [14:30:35] You're like the only actual steward with an account [14:30:49] Or were [14:31:54] Hmm. Maybe Sotiele saw my question on Tegel's talk page on WMF Meta and just joined Miraheze? [14:32:08] Sorry for that block [14:32:30] Eh no problem [14:32:38] Better to be safe than have an idiot on the loose [14:33:34] I blocked them because it was in few hours [14:33:43] I thought it was one person :( [14:33:57] Yeah, It wouldn't surprise me if they are some unlocked socks [14:34:20] .mhca Aspita [14:34:20] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Aspita [15:22:46] PROBLEM - jobrunner1 Current Load on jobrunner1 is WARNING: WARNING - load average: 7.09, 6.01, 5.47 [15:24:42] RECOVERY - jobrunner1 Current Load on jobrunner1 is OK: OK - load average: 6.62, 6.59, 5.77 [15:42:09] PROBLEM - iceria.org - LetsEncrypt on sslhost is WARNING: WARNING - Certificate 'www.iceria.org' expires in 15 day(s) (Sat 08 Aug 2020 15:35:47 GMT +0000). [15:44:30] PROBLEM - www.iceria.org - LetsEncrypt on sslhost is WARNING: WARNING - Certificate 'www.iceria.org' expires in 15 day(s) (Sat 08 Aug 2020 15:35:47 GMT +0000). [15:49:59] [02miraheze/ssl] 07MirahezeSSLBot pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/JJ8lO [15:50:01] [02miraheze/ssl] 07MirahezeSSLBot 034d69ef8 - Bot: Update SSL cert for www.iceria.org [16:02:16] RECOVERY - iceria.org - LetsEncrypt on sslhost is OK: OK - Certificate 'www.iceria.org' will expire on Wed 21 Oct 2020 14:49:52 GMT +0000. [16:05:21] RECOVERY - www.iceria.org - LetsEncrypt on sslhost is OK: OK - Certificate 'www.iceria.org' will expire on Wed 21 Oct 2020 14:49:52 GMT +0000. [16:24:32] PROBLEM - cp3 Disk Space on cp3 is WARNING: DISK WARNING - free space: / 2646 MB (10% inode=93%); [16:25:29] PROBLEM - cloud2 Current Load on cloud2 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL - load average: 27.61, 20.36, 15.98 [16:26:25] PROBLEM - jobrunner1 Current Load on jobrunner1 is WARNING: WARNING - load average: 7.34, 6.43, 5.26 [16:27:29] PROBLEM - cloud2 Current Load on cloud2 is WARNING: WARNING - load average: 22.28, 21.52, 16.96 [16:28:21] RECOVERY - jobrunner1 Current Load on jobrunner1 is OK: OK - load average: 3.77, 5.41, 5.03 [16:29:30] RECOVERY - cloud2 Current Load on cloud2 is OK: OK - load average: 16.68, 19.56, 16.79 [16:30:26] Should we reset the topic [16:41:54] I say give it another day [16:51:49] Ok [17:30:22] [02miraheze/services] 07MirahezeSSLBot pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/JJ80q [17:30:24] [02miraheze/services] 07MirahezeSSLBot 030c88627 - BOT: Updating services config for wikis [17:35:12] [02miraheze/services] 07MirahezeSSLBot pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/JJ802 [17:35:13] [02miraheze/services] 07MirahezeSSLBot 03698dbb1 - BOT: Updating services config for wikis [17:46:05] What is better template for login wiki (GUP)? 1) number of templates - {User meta administrator}, {User administrator commons}, etc or 2) one template {User administrator} with parametres like |site=meta, commons, test, own wiki? [17:46:18] Same for other rights of course [17:54:27] 1 template [17:55:06] I think the same , thanks for your opinion. [17:57:17] And what do you think about categorizing users into category for example "Stewards" I think it's nonsense when not everyone uses templates, but I left it, it was originally like that. [17:57:22] (on Meta) [17:58:08] User categories are fine [17:58:11] yeah, one template is cleaner and less cluttery. I'll volunteer to write the documentation for that template if you want to code it, @MrJaroslavik. 🙂 [17:58:15] Up to users to use them then [17:59:28] Yeah, when it will be done, i will post about it on CN and update page meta:Userboxes [17:59:40] Okay, sounds good. [18:01:19] It's about 15 templates for Meta 15 for loginwiki. [18:02:17] Docs you can leave on me. I want have it simple, not nonsences like templatedata... Maybe it is recommended but.... [18:03:04] RhinosF1 can i create new pages on login wiki? restrictions are only on namespace 2, right? [18:03:11] create/edit [18:04:09] @MrJaroslavik You can create new pages on Loginwiki, but they should only be templates or categories as Loginwiki isn't supposed to have any main or project space pages. [18:04:12] Also I'm sorry I'm doing this/everything else slowly, I can't do everything at once :D. [18:04:54] but you could put the instructions in the template documentation subpage or on Category:Userbox templates on Loginwiki, I think that'd be fine and in keeping with that wiki's scope. 🙂 [18:05:44] I like TemplateData actually...it's an easy way to make a wikitable for the parameters. Plus, it's essential for using that template in VisualEditor. 🙂 [18:06:37] 🙄 [18:06:40] What is VisualEditor? [18:06:47] lol, sarcasm? 😛 [18:07:12] I only used it for 3 times... [18:07:31] I don't use VE often, but I do love 2010 Wikitext Editor. [18:07:40] Yes [18:07:44] It's sooo much better than WikiEditor. [18:08:04] wishes WMF would just roll out both as non-beta features on all wikis [18:08:44] French Wikipedia has it. That's the one multilingual Wikipedia I could actually edit. 😛 [18:08:55] It's about each user's preferences. [18:09:08] yeah, it should still be user preference [18:09:18] On Czech Wikipedia it is also. [18:09:22] but as I understand it, beta features are only available to registered editors? [18:09:36] so as a non-beta feature, IP editors could use it? [18:09:51] On Czech Wikipedia is VE by default for newbies... [18:10:03] Propably for regs users only [18:10:05] Why don't you run for bureaucrat on Czech Wikipedia? I bet they don't have many bureaucrats there. 🙂 [18:10:18] that's cool; it is a good editor for newbies [18:10:29] I am not administrator 😄 😄 [18:10:33] wha!? [18:10:37] I thought you were. [18:10:45] And czech Wikipedia is very specific... [18:10:56] I thought you were a global rollbacker + sysop on Czech Wikipedia. [18:11:08] No, no [18:11:47] surprised [18:12:07] 😄 [18:12:20] I think I'm going to refocus my Wikimedia editing on Simple English Wiktionary. So much I can do there in terms of content creation and maintenance. [18:12:34] and they only have two bureaucrats and three sysops, I think. [18:13:14] If you will be active you can request there... [18:13:22] yeah [18:13:52] Wikibooks seems like a nice place, too. [18:14:04] For what? [18:14:33] Wikisource seems so...useless to me. We have the Internet Archive. Why do we want to have a Wikimedia mirror of the Internet Archive or Project Gutenberg. [18:16:53] > I thought you were. If I were an administrator on the Czech Wikipedia, I wouldn't be here. There is lot of administrative work... Also on WMF is enough number of users here not. [18:17:19] Why don't you apply there, though, MrJ? You said yourself the admin there is largely inactive. [18:17:54] You'd probably pass easily, especially if you're an active editor there. [18:18:42] Where i said it? [18:19:02] Lemme see if I can find it. No idea which channel it was in. [18:20:06] Ah [18:20:40] I was talking about the most active administrator [18:20:55] We currently have ~35 sysops [18:21:04] Wait, i will post stats [18:22:20] @MrJaroslavik https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/407537962553966603/730842476134531183 and https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/407537962553966603/730847871556911215 [18:22:20] [ Discord ] - discord.com [18:22:20] [ Discord ] - discord.com [18:23:01] Is was about one mostly active sysop ;) [18:23:11] Here are stats https://xtools.wmflabs.org/adminstats/cs.wikipedia.org/2020-01-01/2020-07-23?actions=delete|revision-delete|log-delete|restore|re-block|unblock|re-protect|unprotect|rights|merge|import|abusefilter [18:23:12] [ cs.wikipedia.org - Admin Stats - XTools ] - xtools.wmflabs.org [18:23:15] Okay, but still, they could probabky use another 😉 [18:23:30] From 01-2020 to now [18:23:37] looking [18:23:57] regarding your enwiki crat stats, I think they actually have about 17 crats now to roughly 1,100 sysops [18:24:08] they added three new crats this year [18:24:20] SilkTork and WeSpielChequers and one other one [18:24:38] No, specific czech community dont allows promote of user without specific criteria. [18:24:48] oh [18:25:34] I have no chance without encyclopedic creation (new pages) [18:25:40] That's not my strong point + it's time consuming. [18:26:17] Still, only about 10-15 of those 35 Czech Wikipedia sysops are what I'd call active [18:26:29] Some of them have only made 25-50 actions in six months. [18:26:42] Also i am active on number of projects and i must reduce it... [18:26:53] Pathoschild's 1 action was probably deletion of a local userpage per his global deleter group 😉 [18:27:24] > Some of them have only made 25-50 actions in six months. @Doug you know why? ;) Any tip? [18:27:48] Nope, do you have any information? [18:28:11] Activity once every 2 months so as not to lose their sysop rights. [18:28:20] For example 2 months [18:28:28] ah, that makes sense 🙂 [18:28:49] Do they have to do a new RfA if they lose status or can a crat re-add (like enwiki)? [18:29:04] That's one thing I like about enwiki's readdition of rights policy. 😉 [18:29:12] No re-add [18:29:16] aww [18:29:21] Yeah, enwiki policies are great [18:29:57] We have rule about "Annual month" [18:32:36] If sysop was elected in january, another user may ask him to confirm at least one year after the election. But only in Januar, not December or eg March. (It doesn't matter what year) [18:36:58] Translate of rule - "If there are reservations against the administrator's activities and he is asked to confirm by a wikipedian who would have the right to vote under this rule, in the annual month (ie the month in which the anniversary is) of his last election or confirmation, the administrator shall call for a vote no later than within a month. If he fails to do so, any wikipedist authorized to vote in it may create confirm [18:36:58] page about them. However, each wikipedist may, in accordance with this section of the rule, request the confirmation of a maximum of one administrator per year." [18:37:29] For example Martin can confirmed per this rule every May [18:44:20] PROBLEM - jobrunner1 Current Load on jobrunner1 is WARNING: WARNING - load average: 7.87, 5.82, 4.68 [18:46:20] PROBLEM - jobrunner1 Current Load on jobrunner1 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL - load average: 8.27, 6.77, 5.17 [18:48:20] RECOVERY - jobrunner1 Current Load on jobrunner1 is OK: OK - load average: 4.87, 6.20, 5.16 [19:11:17] heyo [19:11:24] anyone online? [19:11:36] Hello [19:11:41] I'm here to ask if it's possible to make pages and history only administrators can see on wikis [19:18:04] I think, it's possible only for wikis. [19:18:25] i mean, i do have a wiki? [19:18:52] If you have wiki, you can set it as private. [19:19:14] oh i meant, i want parts of the wiki public and parts set as private [19:19:15] It can read only users with 'read' right [19:19:32] like i want some pages not seeable to all users [19:20:11] I think it is not possible. [19:20:19] shoot [19:20:33] thanks anyway [19:20:48] You can request two wikis - one for private things, one public [19:20:59] Maybe RhinosF1 know more? [21:01:58] !log delete editor & employee groups from moviepediawiki [21:02:03] Logged the message at https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Tech:Server_admin_log [21:19:10] do any of these tools work on miraheze? https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Grabbers [21:19:10] [ Manual:Grabbers - MediaWiki ] - www.mediawiki.org [21:19:45] theres an old deprecated wiki and i want to make sure i archive the content (including revision history) before it goes down [21:20:29] if theres no tool to automatically mirror the pages on another wiki, i could manually add the pages myself [21:20:46] but i at least want to archive the data for reference [21:21:17] RhinosF1: around? [21:21:27] ye Sario [21:21:44] Do we have anything to help bleb? [21:22:16] i mean we have datadump for pages & images [21:22:30] I know we can download MH wikis, but I'm not sure about getting data from other places [21:22:59] bleb: you want to transfer to MH, right? [21:23:05] It depends which wiki, I mean it might be possible to a largeish import [21:26:36] Xana, it should be possible to have a public wiki, but make only some pages or namespaces as readable by only certain groups. You may have to assign the read permission to only certain groups in certain namespaces, though. Not sure if it's possible on a page basis? [21:38:04] Sario: yes [21:38:18] the wiki im looking to archive is wiki.voidlinux.org [21:38:54] i dont have database access; the main stuff i want to archive is all publicly accessible [21:39:30] but just doing a web crawl would not get all the history, so i'm looking for a specialized tool [21:39:32] bleb: you could use https://wiki.voidlinux.org/Special:Export [21:39:33] [ Export pages - Void Linux Wiki ] - wiki.voidlinux.org [21:40:37] ah sweet [21:40:52] then i can use Special:Import on miraheze [21:41:29] Hmm, I also think there was a web archive tool through... something, using a python script [21:42:32] ye [21:58:02] Hello ^sithjarjar^! If you have any questions, feel free to ask and someone should answer soon. [21:59:17] * RhinosF1 waves [21:59:36] <^sithjarjar^> Hello, I recently created a wiki (url: https://enwiki.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page), and I was wondering if anyone had any advice on how to get a wiki off the ground? [21:59:37] [ Reborn Wikipedia ] - enwiki.miraheze.org [22:04:11] <^sithjarjar^> Hello? [22:12:47] hi [22:13:08] We have a gazetteer of wikis that might help advertise it [22:14:01] <^sithjarjar^> Ok [22:14:10] <^sithjarjar^> What category would it be in? [22:14:19] Community [22:18:21] <^sithjarjar^> RhinosF1 Thanks [22:18:26] np [22:23:32] <^sithjarjar^> RhinosF1 Where’s the community section? [22:24:50] ^sithjarjar^: apparently that doesn't use the same sort as managewiki, I guess https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Gazetteer_of_wikis#Other_types_of_wikis is best then. [22:24:51] [ Gazetteer of wikis - Miraheze Meta ] - meta.miraheze.org [23:18:50] Hello JohnBishop! If you have any questions, feel free to ask and someone should answer soon. [23:19:36] Hello everyone. I have a question regarding the wiki creation process. [23:19:44] <^sithjarjar^> Ask away [23:20:08] What is the vetting process for wikis and how long might it take? [23:21:06] ^sithjarjar^: You still here? [23:22:20] <^sithjarjar^> Yes, though I’m really not the best person to ask about things [23:22:41] ^sithjarjar^: I assume the voiced users would know? [23:26:01] Well, I have submitted a request. If anyone is around to answer my question please ping me. [23:27:00] I can't login on meta. I have my password saved in my password manager. [23:27:00] mutante: Pinging Reception123, Zppix, PuppyKun, Voidwalker, RhinosF1, and Examknow who might be able to help you. [23:27:11] MirahezeBot: that was unexpected [23:27:29] quite [23:27:36] same [23:27:38] error? [23:27:42] also needs updated [23:27:43] eek [23:27:51] I tried the reset password feature and do get the mail. So i know my user name and email. [23:27:57] Did you try the forgot password link? [23:27:57] But the temp password from that also does not work. [23:28:01] mutante: what do you get when you try to login [23:28:44] Zppix: well.. NOW i get "You have made too many recent login attempts. Please wait 5 minutes before trying again. " heh [23:28:51] but just like the password is wrong [23:28:54] JohnBishop, shouldn't take more than a few hours to a day or two normally, but I've gone ahead and done it now [23:29:12] Voidwalker: Great! Thanks! [23:29:26] let me test that bot [23:29:34] I can't login on meta. [23:29:34] mutante: Pinging Reception123, Zppix, PuppyKun, Voidwalker, RhinosF1, and Examknow who might be able to help you. [23:29:38] I can't login [23:29:38] mutante: Pinging Reception123, Zppix, PuppyKun, Voidwalker, RhinosF1, and Examknow who might be able to help you. [23:29:41] I can't [23:29:43] thats expected [23:29:49] login [23:29:51] it looks for that phraae [23:30:00] https://github.com/MirahezeBots/MirahezeBots/blob/master/modules/miraheze.py#L39 [23:30:01] [ MirahezeBots/miraheze.py at master · MirahezeBots/MirahezeBots · GitHub ] - github.com [23:30:02] I was just looking at the code that this service runs on, I must say, it is very cool. [23:30:21] Is there anything here that runs on python? [23:30:35] Well, other than the bot? [23:30:37] mutante: wait 5 minutes if it stll doesnt work lmk and I can try setting a password from the backend [23:31:05] "[i-iI-I]" what's with this regex? [23:31:15] Voidwalker: dunno didnt write that [23:31:30] should just be "[iI]" [23:31:45] Lol yeh [23:32:15] restarting [23:33:06] web stuff (MediaWiki) is all PHP, there's puppet which is basically ruby, and there's probably a few other things thrown in here and there [23:33:07] Is there any way to make certain pages visible to the public? [23:34:01] Voidwalker: I dabble in PHP, work a lot in python, and understand various other things like bash, regex, and SQL [23:34:46] there is a read whitelist for private wikis, but I think that requires a phabricator task, since we don't support managing it through ManageWiki yet [23:35:06] Oh okay. I don't really need it that bad. [23:35:09] you can restrict some pages from editing, but not really from viewing [23:35:17] Yeah protection [23:35:18] see warning on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access#Restrict_viewing_of_certain_specific_pages [23:35:18] [ Manual:Preventing access - MediaWiki ] - www.mediawiki.org [23:35:38] I hosted a MediaWiki wiki on my own server but this seemed like a more affordable option. [23:35:40] JohnBishop: i'd have one public and one private wiki instead [23:39:34] mutante: still not able to get in? [23:40:18] Zppix: Isn't there a maintenance script to run that resets the password? I seem to remember one. [23:42:14] Zppix: yes, incorrect username or password. but both is copied from the mail i got [23:42:30] mutante: ok ill set it in the backend and pm you [23:44:03] Zppix: thanks! (i hope this only works because i am authed with nickserv :) [23:44:21] mutante: That and i know its you xD [23:44:42] Zppix: but how do you know :) [23:44:49] :P [23:44:49] Zppix: i can confirm the password you set works [23:44:57] so it's the same browser, same user name [23:45:03] and i did copy/paste from that mail [23:45:08] hmm [23:45:13] [02miraheze/services] 07MirahezeSSLBot pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/JJ8X8 [23:45:14] so i am tempted to call that a bug [23:45:14] [02miraheze/services] 07MirahezeSSLBot 037c2de27 - BOT: Updating services config for wikis [23:45:14] i guess the reset just didnt take [23:46:18] mutante: change the password and if it breaks again then idk, this sounds like upstream, cause AFAIK we've not changed anything related to logins [23:46:43] Zppix: you know what's also interesting in my profile? [23:46:47] Your email address is not yet confirmed. No email will be sent for any of the following features. [23:46:53] but i still got email with a password [23:46:59] lol [23:47:05] maybe your account is just bugged [23:47:08] just one that doesn't work [23:48:02] Zppix: i think so, because trying to confirm it -> "A confirmation code has already been emailed to you; " [23:48:31] hmm [23:48:46] paladox: ^ [23:49:18] Zppix hmm? [23:49:21] i don't need an immediate fix [23:49:29] but we should create ticket i guess [23:49:44] paladox: mutante's email is showing as unconfirmed but yet it wont let me him confirm it [23:49:52] mutante oh [23:49:55] can you login? [23:50:00] i fixed his login issue [23:50:22] paladox: the forgot password feature sends email to unconfirmed email addresses [23:50:27] what happens when he tries and confirm his email? [23:50:29] paladox: the password it sends does not work [23:50:34] oh [23:50:38] paladox: manually resetting it does work [23:50:54] paladox: trying to confirm the email address does not work saying it already sent an email [23:51:05] hmm [23:51:08] what email do you use? [23:51:40] the one stored for user Mutante [23:52:08] oh [23:52:10] there is no need to fix this right this moment [23:52:20] but i can confirm that i get a temp password and it does not work [23:52:30] and whatever the manual reset is .. that does work [23:52:48] the email confirmation thing seems another separate issue [23:53:16] it says it sent you an email [23:53:37] i did receive "Account details on Meta [23:53:37] mutante so when you click a button for it to send a confirm email email, you don't recieve it? [23:53:40] that is all [23:54:16] paladox: i repeated it now and this time "Confirmation email sent. " [23:54:27] ok, did you get the email? [23:54:27] earlier it said "already sent" [23:54:41] i see it as sent [23:54:45] in the logs [23:54:46] Your email address has now been confirmed. [23:54:50] yes, this time i did [23:55:08] should it send passwords to non-verified emails? [23:55:37] i'm not quite sure [23:56:12] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Resetting_passwords#Use_Special:UserLogin [23:56:12] [ Manual:Resetting passwords - MediaWiki ] - www.mediawiki.org [23:56:21] says email associated with account [23:57:07] i was able to reset the password now to the one i always had [23:57:23] mutante: was the one i set not secure enough for you xD [23:57:28] should i try again and pretend i forgot it? [23:57:34] Zppix: lol [23:58:58] mutante i wouldn't think that should matter, should work now! [23:59:28] paladox: what was the fix?:) [23:59:36] i did nothing lol [23:59:46] i guess the fix was "try again" in a bit [23:59:46] you are quite the optimist :) [23:59:51] lol