[00:08:36] <hispano76>	 paladox:  Reception123  https://feralarchives.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page Bug  "report" https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/11597#mw-section-request 
[00:08:38] <ZppixBot>	 [ Feral Item Worth Wiki ] - feralarchives.miraheze.org
[00:08:38] <ZppixBot>	 [ Wiki requests queue - Miraheze Meta ] - meta.miraheze.org
[00:09:21] <paladox>	 oh
[00:13:03] <paladox>	 !log remove wgDefaultSkin from feralarchiveswiki
[00:13:07] <MirahezeLogbot>	 Logged the message at https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Tech:Server_admin_log, Master
[00:13:26] <paladox>	 hispano76 fixed
[00:17:37] <hispano76>	 paladox: I get the same message, can you check it for me?
[00:17:44] <Zppix>	 hispano76:  clear cache
[00:17:45] <paladox>	 same?
[00:17:48] <paladox>	 works for me
[00:18:58] <Zppix>	 !log un-closing feralarchiveswiki as it was inactive due to technical issues
[00:19:01] <MirahezeLogbot>	 Logged the message at https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Tech:Server_admin_log, Master
[00:19:24] <paladox>	 Zppix it wasen't inactive due to technical issues otherwise it would have been reported by now :)
[00:19:56] <Zppix>	 paladox:  per the wiki request, " Our project got a bit delayed and now we don't seem to have site access!"
[00:20:03] <paladox>	 yeh
[00:20:19] <paladox>	 but it was never "inactive due to technical issues"
[00:20:34] <Zppix>	 paladox:  thats not how i interpret that
[00:20:44] <hispano76>	 works :)
[00:21:11] <paladox>	 they said " Our project got a bit delayed and now we don't seem to have site access!" implying that they had other things to deal with which delayed using the wiki - hence why it wasn't reported till now
[00:22:58] <hispano76>	 [[SRE]]
[00:23:04] <hispano76>	 uh :(
[00:23:10] <Zppix>	 .mh meta SRE
[00:23:10] <ZppixBot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/SRE
[00:25:49] <hispano76>	 :)
[02:10:16] <Not-1447>	 [02miraheze/services] 07MirahezeSSLBot pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/JfUm6
[02:10:18] <Not-1447>	 [02miraheze/services] 07MirahezeSSLBot 0395894ce - BOT: Updating services config for wikis
[03:20:17] <Not-1447>	 [02miraheze/services] 07MirahezeSSLBot pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/JfUYH
[03:20:18] <Not-1447>	 [02miraheze/services] 07MirahezeSSLBot 037e319ba - BOT: Updating services config for wikis
[03:26:39] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - cp8 Current Load on cp8 is WARNING: WARNING - load average: 0.87, 1.90, 1.37
[03:29:23] <icinga-miraheze>	 RECOVERY - cp8 Current Load on cp8 is OK: OK - load average: 1.32, 1.60, 1.33
[03:40:17] <Not-1447>	 [02miraheze/services] 07MirahezeSSLBot pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/JfUOB
[03:40:19] <Not-1447>	 [02miraheze/services] 07MirahezeSSLBot 03a179d1f - BOT: Updating services config for wikis
[04:32:46] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - wiki.8b8t.com - LetsEncrypt on sslhost is WARNING: WARNING - Certificate 'wiki.8b8t.com' expires in 15 day(s) (Tue 05 May 2020 04:28:03 GMT +0000).
[05:21:24] <Reception123>	 !log reception@jobrunner1:~$ sudo -u www-data php /srv/mediawiki/w/maintenance/importDump.php --wiki kiddancerswiki /home/reception/kiddancers_pages_full.xml
[05:21:29] <MirahezeLogbot>	 Logged the message at https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Tech:Server_admin_log, Master
[11:44:45] <RhinosF1>	 JohnLewis: can we add a column to the mediawiki board for maint script runs?
[11:45:21] <JohnLewis>	 Yeah
[11:45:53] <RhinosF1>	 JohnLewis: I’ll do it now
[11:45:54] <JohnLewis>	 Though -> Reception123 or someone more active inside MediaWiki tasks - I've not done anything with that project intentionally 
[11:47:58] <RhinosF1>	 {{done}} seems basic.
[11:48:37] <JohnLewis>	 The whole project needs attention
[11:49:32] <RhinosF1>	 Fair enough
[11:54:27] <Reception123>	 Ok
[11:54:30] <Reception123>	 And yeah, it does
[11:55:42] <RhinosF1>	 Reception123: we’ve done well with cleaning phab so far
[12:57:49] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - ns1 Puppet on ns1 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL: Puppet has 1 failures. Last run 6 minutes ago with 1 failures. Failed resources (up to 3 shown): Package[nagios-plugins]
[13:03:27] <icinga-miraheze>	 RECOVERY - ns1 Puppet on ns1 is OK: OK: Puppet is currently enabled, last run 2 minutes ago with 0 failures
[13:08:51] <ZppixBot>	 RhinosF1: Reception123: Have you heard back from BrowserStack?
[13:09:04] <RhinosF1>	 ZppixBot: we did
[14:36:07] <RhinosF1>	 JohnLewis, Reception123: can we update whose on duty?
[14:37:09] <Reception123>	 Afaik, when the person ends their duty they can change the topic with the next person
[14:37:37] <Reception123>	 and it says "Duty is from a Monday-Monday (a standard normalised week)." so John is still on duty 
[14:38:01] <Reception123>	 there's no exact time at which the duty needs to be transferred just sometime tomorrow
[14:38:33] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - cp6 Current Load on cp6 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL - load average: 1.96, 6.52, 4.33
[14:39:20] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - cloud1 Current Load on cloud1 is WARNING: WARNING - load average: 6.54, 20.76, 18.77
[14:39:27] <RhinosF1>	 Reception123: ok
[14:40:18] <Not-1447>	 [02miraheze/services] 07MirahezeSSLBot pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/JfUE4
[14:40:20] <Not-1447>	 [02miraheze/services] 07MirahezeSSLBot 0310cf6fc - BOT: Updating services config for wikis
[14:41:39] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - cp6 Current Load on cp6 is WARNING: WARNING - load average: 0.87, 3.91, 3.70
[14:42:20] <icinga-miraheze>	 RECOVERY - cloud1 Current Load on cloud1 is OK: OK - load average: 8.83, 15.96, 17.27
[14:44:42] <icinga-miraheze>	 RECOVERY - cp6 Current Load on cp6 is OK: OK - load average: 1.87, 2.92, 3.33
[14:47:47] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - db6 MySQL on db6 is CRITICAL: Access denied for user 'icinga'@'51.89.160.138' (using password: YES)
[14:51:47] <RhinosF1>	 Reception123: ^ that doesnt sound good
[14:52:26] <Reception123>	 RhinosF1: nope
[14:52:27] <Reception123>	 ^ paladox 
[14:53:07] <paladox>	 db6 is not in use, secondly its perfectly ok
[14:53:17] <paladox>	 happening to db7 too
[14:55:16] <Not-1447>	 [02miraheze/puppet] 07paladox pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/JfUE5
[14:55:17] <Not-1447>	 [02miraheze/puppet] 07paladox 03e7828ad - Update default-grants.sql.erb
[14:56:18] <icinga-miraheze>	 RECOVERY - db6 MySQL on db6 is OK: Uptime: 766059 Threads: 11 Questions: 75896895 Slow queries: 23959 Opens: 15526 Flush tables: 1 Open tables: 2000 Queries per second avg: 99.074
[14:56:25] <icinga-miraheze>	 RECOVERY - db7 MySQL on db7 is OK: Uptime: 3607040 Threads: 28 Questions: 3389194140 Slow queries: 173992264 Opens: 1546869 Flush tables: 1 Open tables: 26592 Queries per second avg: 939.605
[14:57:37] <Not-1447>	 [02miraheze/puppet] 07paladox pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/JfUEx
[14:57:39] <Not-1447>	 [02miraheze/puppet] 07paladox 034504f1a - db: Remove misc2 and misc4 from firewall
[15:11:43] <Not-1447>	 [02miraheze/dns] 07paladox pushed 031 commit to 03master [+1/-0/±0] 13https://git.io/JfUu8
[15:11:45] <Not-1447>	 [02miraheze/dns] 07paladox 036881b62 - Add 8b8t.com to dns
[15:13:54] <Not-1447>	 [02miraheze/ssl] 07paladox pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/JfUuR
[15:13:55] <Not-1447>	 [02miraheze/ssl] 07paladox 03a447cf9 - Update wiki.8b8t.com.crt
[15:13:55] <RhinosF1>	 paladox: thx for clarfication :)
[15:17:47] <icinga-miraheze>	 RECOVERY - test2 Puppet on test2 is OK: OK: Puppet is currently enabled, last run 50 seconds ago with 0 failures
[15:22:33] <icinga-miraheze>	 RECOVERY - wiki.8b8t.com - LetsEncrypt on sslhost is OK: OK - Certificate 'wiki.8b8t.com' will expire on Sat 18 Jul 2020 14:13:36 GMT +0000.
[15:30:18] <Not-1447>	 [02miraheze/services] 07MirahezeSSLBot pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/JfUuH
[15:30:19] <Not-1447>	 [02miraheze/services] 07MirahezeSSLBot 030dcc81f - BOT: Updating services config for wikis
[16:25:30] <Not-1447>	 [02miraheze/puppet] 07paladox pushed 032 commits to 03master [+11/-0/±4] 13https://git.io/JfUgR
[16:25:31] <Not-1447>	 [02miraheze/puppet] 07paladox 035e2cf21 - Add openldap class From https://github.com/wikimedia/puppet/blob/dcec24a9c07e0d38f9586d4201798ad40f549c55/modules/profile/manifests/openldap.pp and https://github.com/wikimedia/puppet/tree/dcec24a9c07e0d38f9586d4201798ad40f549c55/modules/openldap Also add the class to test2 to test
[16:25:32] <ZppixBot>	 [ puppet/openldap.pp at dcec24a9c07e0d38f9586d4201798ad40f549c55 · wikimedia/puppet · GitHub ] - github.com
[16:25:32] <ZppixBot>	 [ puppet/modules/openldap at dcec24a9c07e0d38f9586d4201798ad40f549c55 · wikimedia/puppet · GitHub ] - github.com
[16:25:33] <Not-1447>	 [02miraheze/puppet] 07paladox 0373d2292 - Merge branch 'master' of github.com:miraheze/puppet
[16:27:35] <Not-1447>	 [02miraheze/puppet] 07paladox pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±3] 13https://git.io/JfUga
[16:27:37] <Not-1447>	 [02miraheze/puppet] 07paladox 038398fe9 - Merge branch 'master' of github.com:miraheze/puppet
[16:28:47] <Not-1447>	 [02miraheze/puppet] 07paladox pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/JfUgr
[16:28:48] <Not-1447>	 [02miraheze/puppet] 07paladox 0349c432e - openldap: Fix data types
[16:30:06] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - puppet2 Puppet on puppet2 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL: Failed to apply catalog, zero resources tracked by Puppet. It might be a dependency cycle.
[16:32:50] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - test2 Puppet on test2 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL: Puppet has 1 failures. Last run 1 minute ago with 1 failures. Failed resources (up to 3 shown): Service[slapd]
[16:32:55] <icinga-miraheze>	 RECOVERY - puppet2 Puppet on puppet2 is OK: OK: Puppet is currently enabled, last run 1 minute ago with 0 failures
[16:37:36] <Not-1447>	 [02miraheze/puppet] 07paladox pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/JfUgj
[16:37:37] <Not-1447>	 [02miraheze/puppet] 07paladox 03111245c - openldap: Fix part 2
[16:50:54] <Not-1447>	 [02miraheze/puppet] 07paladox pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/JfU24
[16:50:55] <Not-1447>	 [02miraheze/puppet] 07paladox 03145578d - openldap: Fix part 3
[16:53:21] <Not-1447>	 [02miraheze/puppet] 07paladox pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/JfU2z
[16:53:23] <Not-1447>	 [02miraheze/puppet] 07paladox 03f3a74ac - openldap: Fix part 4
[16:56:29] <paladox>	 !log add openldap to ssl-cert group on test2
[16:56:32] <MirahezeLogbot>	 Logged the message at https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Tech:Server_admin_log, Master
[16:58:34] <icinga-miraheze>	 RECOVERY - test2 Puppet on test2 is OK: OK: Puppet is currently enabled, last run 1 minute ago with 0 failures
[17:08:25] <RhinosF1>	 paladox: exciting
[17:17:09] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - cloud2 Current Load on cloud2 is WARNING: WARNING - load average: 21.78, 20.94, 17.70
[17:20:02] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - cloud2 Current Load on cloud2 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL - load average: 25.31, 21.62, 18.40
[17:25:46] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - cloud2 Current Load on cloud2 is WARNING: WARNING - load average: 20.26, 21.65, 19.62
[17:28:39] <icinga-miraheze>	 RECOVERY - cloud2 Current Load on cloud2 is OK: OK - load average: 13.63, 19.73, 19.38
[17:36:12] <RhinosF1>	 paladox: meta is messed up. I just downloads a file called ‘miraheze’ when I go to meta.miraheze.org
[17:36:44] <paladox>	 no its not, it dosen't download a file for me at https://http://meta.miraheze.org
[17:36:45] <RhinosF1>	 working again
[17:36:47] <paladox>	 * http://meta.miraheze.org
[17:36:48] <ZppixBot>	 [ Meta ] - meta.miraheze.org
[17:37:00] <RhinosF1>	 Happened for at least ~30s
[17:37:45] <RhinosF1>	 This is the file it gave when it did happen https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/oypIrk1N/Miraheze
[17:37:45] <ZppixBot>	 [ Meta ] - usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com
[17:37:59] <RhinosF1>	 paladox: working now, very strange
[17:39:28] <paladox>	 looks like a print, so i guess you clicked some button.
[17:40:30] <RhinosF1>	 I litteraly typed meta then clicked the 1st link that showed
[18:55:07] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - cp8 Current Load on cp8 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL - load average: 2.02, 2.15, 1.40
[18:57:52] <icinga-miraheze>	 RECOVERY - cp8 Current Load on cp8 is OK: OK - load average: 0.69, 1.53, 1.28
[19:29:09] <Not-1447>	 [02miraheze/ssl] 07Pix1234 created branch 03hibernuswiki 13https://git.io/JfUKB
[19:29:10] <Not-1447>	 [02ssl] 07Pix1234 created branch 03hibernuswiki - 13https://git.io/vxP9L
[19:30:00] <Not-1447>	 [02miraheze/ssl] 07Pix1234 pushed 031 commit to 03hibernuswiki [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/JfUKE
[19:30:01] <Not-1447>	 [02miraheze/ssl] 07Pix1234 03734ffc8 - + wiki.hibernusmc.net
[19:30:47] <Not-1447>	 [02miraheze/ssl] 07Pix1234 pushed 031 commit to 03hibernuswiki [+1/-0/±0] 13https://git.io/JfUKz
[19:30:49] <Not-1447>	 [02miraheze/ssl] 07Pix1234 03f3b0b20 - Create wiki.hibernusmc.net.crt
[19:31:02] <Not-1447>	 [02ssl] 07Pix1234 opened pull request 03#288: + Hibernuswiki config - 13https://git.io/JfUK2
[19:31:10] <Not-1447>	 [02ssl] 07Pix1234 closed pull request 03#288: + Hibernuswiki config - 13https://git.io/JfUK2
[19:31:11] <Not-1447>	 [02miraheze/ssl] 07Pix1234 pushed 031 commit to 03master [+1/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/JfUKV
[19:31:13] <Not-1447>	 [02miraheze/ssl] 07Pix1234 03fc2155f - + Hibernuswiki config (#288) * + wiki.hibernusmc.net * Create wiki.hibernusmc.net.crt
[19:31:19] <Not-1447>	 [02ssl] 07Pix1234 deleted branch 03hibernuswiki - 13https://git.io/vxP9L
[19:31:21] <Not-1447>	 [02miraheze/ssl] 07Pix1234 deleted branch 03hibernuswiki
[19:34:00] <Not-1447>	 [02mw-config] 07Hispano76 opened pull request 03#3029: [NOT APPROVE] Adding CommentStream settings in ManageWiki - 13https://git.io/JfUKr
[19:35:59] <Not-1447>	 [02mw-config] 07Reception123 commented on pull request 03#3029: [NOT APPROVE] Adding CommentStream settings in ManageWiki - 13https://git.io/JfUK1
[19:37:59] <hispano76>	 I just realized, LocalExtensions can't edit it, I guess what I wanted to add I ask in Phab?
[19:38:43] <Reception123>	 hispano76: hm? There is no need for an edit in LocalExtensions if you add that to ManageWikiSettings
[19:42:39] <hispano76>	 hum, Reception123  to add settings that would only be enabled in certain name spaces (such as wgCommentStreamsAllowedNamespaces for example) 
[19:42:49] <Reception123>	 Oh
[19:44:25] <Not-1447>	 [02mw-config] 07Hispano76 commented on pull request 03#3029: [NOT APPROVE] Adding CommentStream settings in ManageWiki - 13https://git.io/JfUK5
[19:59:57] <Examknow>	 [[SRE]]
[20:00:02] <Examknow>	 !linkie on
[20:00:02] <SigmaBot>	 12Linkie12 03enabled03
[20:00:06] <Examknow>	 [[SRE]]
[20:00:07] <SigmaBot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/SRE
[20:00:08] <ZppixBot>	 [ System administrators - Miraheze Meta ] - meta.miraheze.org
[20:00:36] <Examknow>	 Reception123: Sometimes it just gets disabled and you have to use "!linkie on"
[20:00:37] <Reception123>	 Examknow: thanks
[20:00:49] <Examknow>	 np
[20:02:43] <Voidwalker>	 what's up with -feed?
[20:04:18] <Zppix>	 Voidwalker:  dont know ill see if i have access to restart
[20:04:50] <Zppix>	 I dont i thought i ran on jobrunner
[20:04:56] <Zppix>	 paladox:  can you restart -feed
[20:05:05] <Reception123>	 Zppix: yeah the bot isn't on jobrunner 
[20:05:27] <Zppix>	 Reception123:  i knew before we moved to OVH it was running on a server i had access too IIRC
[20:05:53] <Reception123>	 maybe that was temporary but normally bots never ran on mw-admin accessible servers
[20:06:15] <Zppix>	 Reception123: Voidwalker:  it probably pinged out due to tindallgramswiki * [[Special:Log/upload]] upload  * Darrencubitt *  uploaded "[[File:Tindallgrams02-186.png]]": File uploaded with MsUpload 
[20:06:15] <SigmaBot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/File:Tindallgrams02-186.png
[20:06:17] <ZppixBot>	 [ File:Tindallgrams02-186.png - Miraheze Meta ] - meta.miraheze.org
[20:06:39] <Zppix>	 im going to have to make it ignore SigmaBot  aint i
[20:07:06] * Reception123 tries to figure out where the bot is to restart it before paladox 
[20:07:11] <Reception123>	 (since he's on away)
[20:07:34] <Zppix>	 it may be on misc Reception123 
[20:07:39] <Reception123>	 I think it was Mon1
[20:07:40] <Zppix>	 it should just be a systemctl restart
[20:07:50] <Zppix>	 its like mirahezercfeed or something
[20:07:53] <RhinosF1>	 Reception123: mon1 think
[20:08:00] <RhinosF1>	 Should be in puppet config
[20:08:04] <Reception123>	 yeah
[20:08:40] <Reception123>	 !log restarted RC bot
[20:08:44] <MirahezeLogbot>	 Logged the message at https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Tech:Server_admin_log, Master
[20:09:01] <Reception123>	 and it's back
[20:10:13] <RhinosF1>	 Reception123: fwiw, https://github.com/miraheze/puppet/blob/73d2292dcaff669dafd0bacb6529bd46639bb9f8/manifests/site.pp#L87
[20:10:13] <ZppixBot>	 [ puppet/site.pp at 73d2292dcaff669dafd0bacb6529bd46639bb9f8 · miraheze/puppet · GitHub ] - github.com
[20:14:32] <Zppix>	 why the hell is it not letting me do it
[20:16:09] <Zppix>	 tf
[20:20:37] <ZppixBot>	 Hello jess! If you have any questions, feel free to ask and someone should answer soon.
[20:24:05] <RhinosF1>	 Zppix: did I not ban that range a while back?
[20:24:13] <Zppix>	 RhinosF1: i figured it out
[20:24:21] <RhinosF1>	 Zppix: what?
[20:24:35] <Zppix>	 dont worry about it, im just going a bit nuts
[20:25:06] <Examknow>	 Zppix: You probably should
[20:25:14] <RhinosF1>	 Zppix: I’m getting a dB error trying to sort the block on wiki (per Reception123 pm)
[20:25:20] <RhinosF1>	 See 712db7bc0ea033d5d0a929f0 on mw5
[20:25:25] <Zppix>	 RhinosF1:  give me a sec
[20:25:55] <RhinosF1>	 Examknow: we’ve all gone nuts
[20:26:04] <Examknow>	 I see that
[20:26:13] <Zppix>	 TIL: you cant do sudo -us you have do it like sudo -su
[20:26:23] <Examknow>	 Zppix: do you know that you are still opped? :P
[20:26:51] <Zppix>	 yes im aware im still handling something
[20:28:02] <Zppix>	 RhinosF1:  found the error let me see what i can do
[20:28:16] <Zppix>	 error log message that is
[20:59:54] <RhinosF1>	 paladox: Ignore that error Zppix just told you that I found, it's a good thing
[21:00:16] <paladox>	 huh?
[21:00:38] <RhinosF1>	 paladox: Did Zppix just tell you about an exception I found on BrowserStack?
[21:00:57] <paladox>	 yes
[21:01:05] <Zppix>	 how is an error a good thing :P
[21:01:34] <RhinosF1>	 Zppix: I was trying to prove that supporting these browsers isn't worth it
[21:02:04] <RhinosF1>	 Now doing the android tests and it looks like Grade Cs don't even connect to us. I think TLS version issue.
[21:03:56] <paladox>	 You proved nothing
[21:04:00] <RhinosF1>	 Yeah, we work on devices that can access us so lucky us
[21:04:36] <RhinosF1>	 paladox: I mainly wanted to see when we start working and if it's on the Grade A ones, which is right
[21:04:49] <RhinosF1>	 we aren't even accessible on Grade C Android
[21:05:09] <RhinosF1>	 Or some Grade As from my tests
[21:13:15] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - cp8 Current Load on cp8 is WARNING: WARNING - load average: 0.95, 1.84, 1.48
[21:13:27] * RhinosF1 has done his testing
[21:14:39] <RhinosF1>	 paladox: Also, I proved that mediawiki/we are providing support for a device that can't access the site.
[21:14:56] <paladox>	 We do not provide support for IE
[21:15:20] <paladox>	 at least i won't, i cannot speak for others on the team though
[21:15:58] <icinga-miraheze>	 RECOVERY - cp8 Current Load on cp8 is OK: OK - load average: 0.56, 1.40, 1.37
[21:16:03] <paladox>	 so "we are providing support for a device that can't access the site" is misleading unless someone said we were?
[21:16:09] <Zppix>	 afaik IE isnt supported by microsoft anymore
[21:16:39] <RhinosF1>	 paladox: mediawiki/we - it's on the browser matrix for Grade C. I want it gone as well.
[21:16:53] <paladox>	 what is "we"
[21:17:25] <RhinosF1>	 The mediawiki developers and developers of extensions as a whole
[21:17:48] <RhinosF1>	 I can't even get on enwp
[21:17:56] <Zppix>	 i think you miss the point
[21:18:02] <Zppix>	 IE is not supported
[21:18:04] <Zppix>	 period
[21:18:07] <paladox>	 Well i don't maintain it. And also our extensions use OOUI so we don't actually provide the support.
[21:19:00] <RhinosF1>	 You can't even get on the site from the android 2 ones
[21:19:06] <RhinosF1>	 enwp or miraheze
[21:19:10] <Zppix>	 IE
[21:19:11] <Zppix>	 is
[21:19:12] <Zppix>	 and will
[21:19:13] <Zppix>	 not
[21:19:15] <Zppix>	 be supported
[21:19:15] <paladox>	 android 2 is very old
[21:19:18] <RhinosF1>	 Zppix: By mediawiki, it is unfortunately
[21:19:31] <RhinosF1>	 paladox: I know, I'll be glad if they drop grade c support
[21:19:42] <Zppix>	 we dont control that
[21:19:51] <Zppix>	 go bug wikimedia
[21:19:56] <paladox>	 ^
[21:19:57] <RhinosF1>	 no, but there is a ticket that I can give opinions on
[21:20:09] <RhinosF1>	 I am doing this to have evidence to add to it
[21:20:38] <paladox>	 why do you need evidence? its pretty obvious that a slim amout of users are still using IE or android v2.
[21:20:47] <paladox>	 Secondly wikimedia would have gathered the evidence.
[21:21:00] <Zppix>	 why should anyone support anicent tech
[21:21:24] <Zppix>	 its like if  i complained because i cannot use miraheze on a MS DOS
[21:21:25] <RhinosF1>	 paladox: It's a discussion and turning into RfC, baseless +1's don't help
[21:21:35] <RhinosF1>	 Zppix: they shouldn't
[21:21:58] <Zppix>	 Then why complain about android 2 and IE 
[21:22:03] <Zppix>	 its the same thing
[21:22:36] <RhinosF1>	 Zppix: I want them gone
[21:22:53] <Zppix>	 [[WP:SOFIXIT]]
[21:22:53] <SigmaBot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/WP:SOFIXIT
[21:23:11] <RhinosF1>	 I have commented on both tickets with my findings
[21:23:40] <Zppix>	 so let me get this straight you've talked to the PROPER people and then come expect us to do something?
[21:23:41] <paladox>	 Ok, then why did you waste our time looking for exceptions caused by a browser such as IE?
[21:24:33] <RhinosF1>	 I simply wanted to know what the trace said
[21:24:52] <RhinosF1>	 I don't want you to do anything about it
[21:24:59] <Zppix>	 This discussion is over 
[21:25:04] <Zppix>	 please move on to a different topic 
[21:26:29] * RhinosF1 sleeping now
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[21:31:34] * hispano76 greetings
[21:31:42] <paladox>	 hi
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[23:32:57] * sario waves goodbye
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