[00:21:51] <Not-f817>	 [02ManageWiki] 07The-Voidwalker commented on pull request 03#118: only check perms on install - 13https://git.io/JeGYC
[00:41:48] <Examknow>	 JohnLewis: What do you mean by confirm what it does?
[01:09:46] <Examknow>	 Voidwalker: What do you think of having a commons wiki for miraheze kind of like wikimedia commons
[01:10:09] <Voidwalker>	 you mean https://commons.miraheze.org ? :)
[01:10:11] <ZppixBot>	 [ Miraheze Commons ] - commons.miraheze.org
[01:10:50] <Examknow>	 I swear when I checked a minute ago I got a 404
[01:10:56] <Examknow>	 must have spelled it wrong
[01:16:20] <Not-f817>	 [02CreateWiki] 07The-Voidwalker commented on pull request 03#117: Protect against wgCreateWikiOOUIFormTabs returning null - 13https://git.io/JeGOn
[01:18:14] <Voidwalker>	 kinda tempted to drop a similar note on all PRs that have been open for months and months
[01:27:22] <Examknow>	 Voidwalker: Okay by me
[01:28:39] <Examknow>	 can you add me as a contributor for the CreateWiki repo?
[01:33:47] <Examknow>	 Voidwalker: You still here?
[01:34:28] <Voidwalker>	 I don't have that kind of access
[01:34:40] <Examknow>	 ok
[01:35:09] <Examknow>	 can you delete my meta userpage so that I can use my global page?
[01:35:28] <Voidwalker>	 and besides, you'd have to go through https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Tech:Access_policy to get access
[01:35:29] <ZppixBot>	 [ Tech:Access policy - Miraheze Meta ] - meta.miraheze.org
[01:37:01] <Examknow>	 Voidwalker: Thx
[01:37:07] <Voidwalker>	 np
[01:38:04] <Examknow>	 I will probably request sysop after a little bit but I will probably wait at least the rest of the week
[01:44:40] <Examknow>	 Voidwalker: So what have you been up to lately
[01:46:16] <Voidwalker>	 not very much of anything
[01:47:33] <Examknow>	 I have been pretty busy with work
[02:09:58] <Zppix>	 Examknow:  you dont have to do user talk notifications createwiki does it through echo
[02:10:10] <Not-f817>	 [02miraheze/services] 07MirahezeSSLBot pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/JeGO1
[02:10:12] <Not-f817>	 [02miraheze/services] 07MirahezeSSLBot 038c1712d - BOT: Updating services config for wikis
[02:10:47] <Examknow>	 Zppix: I know I was just letting him know that I had done it as not everyone has those notifications turned on
[02:11:13] <Zppix>	 Examknow:  im pretty sure unless they turned them off they are on by default
[02:11:42] <Examknow>	 Zppix: Just in case
[02:15:30] <Examknow>	 Zppix: Are you the one in charge of the CVT
[02:15:46] <Zppix>	 Examknow:  I'm not in charge of anything... but i am apart of it
[02:15:54] <Zppix>	 Examknow:  no one is in charge of CVT
[02:16:09] <Examknow>	 ok
[02:16:51] <Examknow>	 It is basically the CVN for wikimedia right
[02:17:20] <Zppix>	 Examknow:  we're like stewards except we cant assign userrights, or CU... and we only act on vandalism and spam
[02:17:34] <Zppix>	 but we can globally lock and ban
[02:17:43] <Examknow>	 I see
[02:18:23] <Zppix>	 It's basically Stewards, then cvt, then local beaurocrats, local sysops, then users is the hierachry
[02:19:08] <Examknow>	 that is what it seemed like
[02:19:26] <Zppix>	 CVT and Stewards work together alot
[02:19:47] <Examknow>	 I have been thinking I might start helping in that field
[02:20:03] <Examknow>	 Anti vandalism was like all I did on wikipedia
[02:20:33] <Zppix>	 Same here, and still do...
[02:20:59] <Examknow>	 I do wikipedia still a lot
[02:21:08] <Examknow>	 It is kind of a hassle though
[02:21:24] <Zppix>	 I dont think so :P
[02:21:47] <Examknow>	 some admins are just really annoying
[02:22:15] <Zppix>	 heh
[02:23:04] <Examknow>	 some are okay and there are some that block people with the reason as "moron"
[02:23:23] <Zppix>	 lol
[02:24:40] <Examknow>	 RhinosF1 kind of convinced me to help out here because I do a lot of developer stuff and I have been helping out as a wiki creator
[02:28:07] <Examknow>	 Zppix: Do you think I would pass a request for meta sysop in the next week?
[02:29:05] <Zppix>	 let me look
[02:30:09] <Not-f817>	 [02miraheze/services] 07MirahezeSSLBot pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/JeGOd
[02:30:11] <Not-f817>	 [02miraheze/services] 07MirahezeSSLBot 033d991f0 - BOT: Updating services config for wikis
[02:31:59] <Zppix>	 Examknow:  maybe a little too soon... but you can try
[02:32:17] <Examknow>	 not enough contribs?
[02:42:36] <Examknow>	 Zppix: You still here?
[03:25:35] <Zppix>	 Examknow: yes sorry, no, i mean you just got wikicreator
[06:26:16] <icinga-miraheze>	 RECOVERY - cp3 Disk Space on cp3 is OK: DISK OK - free space: / 3050 MB (12% inode=94%);
[08:22:46] <qq[IrcCity]>	 hello.   Is any person responsible for commons.miraheze?   I would like to hear something with respect to https://commons.miraheze.org/wiki/Miraheze_Commons:Community_noticeboard#Custom_licensing
[08:22:47] <ZppixBot>	 [ Miraheze Commons:Community noticeboard - Miraheze Commons ] - commons.miraheze.org
[08:23:37] <qq[IrcCity]>	 Too slow response for a wiki maintained by the central administration.
[12:29:47] <Zppix>	 qq[IrcCity]: i have no admin rights there beyond my global CVT but ill lok
[12:29:49] <Zppix>	 look
[12:30:47] <Zppix>	 qq[IrcCity]:  https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Licensing seems to be what we are closely follwing... (cc paladox)
[12:30:48] <ZppixBot>	 [ Commons:Licensing - Wikimedia Commons ] - commons.wikimedia.org
[12:34:54] <qq[IrcCity]>	 Zppix, in other word, your proposed answer is “no”.   But I am a skilled MediaWiki user, I can develop (and debug) Lua modules and maintain complex templates.
[12:36:13] <qq[IrcCity]>	 If you denied my petition, then you couldn’t count on my participation, whereas namely now I have an incentive.
[12:36:26] <Zppix>	 qq[IrcCity]: what does licensing have due to with lua?
[12:36:43] <Zppix>	 have to do*
[12:36:53] <qq[IrcCity]>	 Sorry, I cannot talk just now.  Will explain later.
[12:37:19] <Zppix>	 I don't have a definite answer either thats just me looking at previous discussions on the noticeboard qq[IrcCity] 
[12:37:24] <Zppix>	 and ultimately its not up to me
[12:50:11] <Not-f817>	 [02miraheze/services] 07MirahezeSSLBot pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/JeGle
[12:50:13] <Not-f817>	 [02miraheze/services] 07MirahezeSSLBot 039505dc4 - BOT: Updating services config for wikis
[13:17:58] <Not-f817>	 [02miraheze/mw-config] 07paladox pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/JeGlB
[13:17:59] <Not-f817>	 [02miraheze/mw-config] 07paladox 037eb6d28 - Update LocalSettings.php
[13:30:16] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - test1 Puppet on test1 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL: Puppet has 1 failures. Last run 6 minutes ago with 1 failures. Failed resources (up to 3 shown): Exec[git_pull_MediaWiki config]
[15:00:52] <RhinosF1>	 Does anyone mind testing something on Chrome Win 10?
[15:01:24] <RhinosF1>	 qq[IrcCity]: I'll chase it up for you tonight if no one's dealt with it
[15:33:15] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - cp3 Disk Space on cp3 is WARNING: DISK WARNING - free space: / 2638 MB (10% inode=94%);
[15:33:27] <Zppix>	 Oof
[15:33:50] <RhinosF1>	 Zppix: what you oofing at?
[15:34:03] <Zppix>	 icinga-miraheze:
[15:34:28] <RhinosF1>	 Ah
[15:34:45] <RhinosF1>	 That's been on and off for a while - only one thing that will ever fix that
[15:35:20] <RhinosF1>	 Why's puppet down on test1?
[15:37:33] <RhinosF1>	 paladox: puppet on test1 has been down and the commit before that was you
[15:37:51] <paladox>	 yup
[15:38:38] <RhinosF1>	 paladox: is that expected?
[15:39:10] <paladox>	 yes i guess also it's a test server :)
[15:40:19] <RhinosF1>	 paladox: I know that but there being an error indicates something might be wrong
[15:40:54] <paladox>	 it'Notice: /Stage[main]/Mediawiki/Git::Clone[MediaWiki config]/Exec[git_pull_MediaWiki config]/returns: error: Your local changes to the following files would be overwritten by merge:
[15:41:24] <RhinosF1>	 Ah
[15:48:08] <Not-f817>	 [02CreateWiki] 07RhinosF1 created branch 03RhinosF1-sonar-patch - 13https://git.io/vpJTL
[15:48:10] <Not-f817>	 [02miraheze/CreateWiki] 07RhinosF1 pushed 031 commit to 03RhinosF1-sonar-patch [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/JeGBT
[15:48:11] <Not-f817>	 [02miraheze/CreateWiki] 07RhinosF1 031207084 - Attempt to fix sonar scanner error
[15:48:15] <Not-f817>	 [02CreateWiki] 07RhinosF1 opened pull request 03#123: Attempt to fix sonar scanner error - 13https://git.io/JeGBk
[15:48:26] <RhinosF1>	 paladox: ^ Any issues with?
[15:48:46] <paladox>	 i wouldn't think so
[15:48:57] <paladox>	 trusty is old though?
[15:49:00] <RhinosF1>	 I'll try it then
[15:49:31] <RhinosF1>	 paladox: it says on the Travis guide for the sonar scanner tool to work it must be either Java code or using trusty
[15:49:51] <RhinosF1>	 paladox: https://docs.travis-ci.com/user/sonarcloud/#requirements
[15:49:51] <ZppixBot>	 [ Using SonarCloud with Travis CI - Travis CI ] - docs.travis-ci.com
[15:50:05] <paladox>	 ok
[15:50:12] <RhinosF1>	 So either that or we remove sonar cloud I suppose as it's blocking Travis
[15:50:31] <travis-ci>	 miraheze/CreateWiki/RhinosF1-sonar-patch/1207084 - RhinosF1 The build passed. https://travis-ci.com/miraheze/CreateWiki/builds/129132410
[15:52:27] <Not-f817>	 [02CreateWiki] 07RhinosF1 closed pull request 03#123: Attempt to fix sonar scanner error - 13https://git.io/JeGBk
[15:52:29] <Not-f817>	 [02miraheze/CreateWiki] 07RhinosF1 pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/JeGBt
[15:52:30] <Not-f817>	 [02miraheze/CreateWiki] 07RhinosF1 03710099f - Attempt to fix sonar scanner error (#123)
[16:03:43] <Not-f817>	 [02miraheze/CreateWiki] 07RhinosF1 pushed 031 commit to 03paladox-patch-3 [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/JeGBC
[16:03:44] <Not-f817>	 [02miraheze/CreateWiki] 07RhinosF1 03496c678 - Backport sonar fix
[16:03:46] <Not-f817>	 [02CreateWiki] 07RhinosF1 synchronize pull request 03#117: Protect against wgCreateWikiOOUIFormTabs returning null - 13https://git.io/fjKdP
[16:04:46] <Not-f817>	 [02CreateWiki] 07RhinosF1 synchronize pull request 03#122: see phab T4394 - 13https://git.io/JesQd
[16:15:32] <Not-f817>	 [02CreateWiki] 07paladox closed pull request 03#117: Protect against wgCreateWikiOOUIFormTabs returning null - 13https://git.io/fjKdP
[16:15:35] <Not-f817>	 [02CreateWiki] 07paladox deleted branch 03paladox-patch-3 - 13https://git.io/vpJTL
[16:15:36] <Not-f817>	 [02miraheze/CreateWiki] 07paladox deleted branch 03paladox-patch-3
[16:15:45] <Not-f817>	 [02CreateWiki] 07paladox commented on pull request 03#117: Protect against wgCreateWikiOOUIFormTabs returning null - 13https://git.io/JeGBB
[16:56:44] <Not-f817>	 [02CreateWiki] 07JohnFLewis commented on pull request 03#122: see phab T4394 - 13https://git.io/JeGBp
[16:58:39] <RhinosF1>	 JohnLewis: thx
[17:04:24] <qq[IrcCity]>	 Zppix: if commons.miraheze is restrictive—in terms of licensing—to the same extent as Wikimedia C., then the Miraheze fork is not very helpful.   Why to upload to Miraheze if your wikis have InstantCommons (or respective $wgForeignFileRepos) anyway and the file may be uploaded to Wikimedia?
[17:04:50] <RhinosF1>	 JohnLewis: ^
[17:05:32] <JohnLewis>	 I am 100% not connected to that wiki in any form
[17:05:56] <RhinosF1>	 Okay
[17:06:04] <RhinosF1>	 Anyone have an exact clue?
[17:06:17] <RhinosF1>	 JohnLewis: it's supposed to be operated by operations
[17:06:31] <JohnLewis>	 RhinosF1: no, it's community operated
[17:07:12] <RhinosF1>	 Since when, most of the local staff are our staff?
[17:07:15] <JohnLewis>	 Operations only run loginwiki, test1wiki and staffwiki
[17:07:42] <RhinosF1>	 Okay
[17:07:45] <JohnLewis>	 Staff are community users in their own rights, they do it in their personal capacity not Miraheze capacity
[17:11:54] <paladox>	 The wiki is supposed to be community operated
[17:32:12] <Not-f817>	 [02miraheze/mw-config] 07paladox pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/JeGRu
[17:32:13] <Not-f817>	 [02miraheze/mw-config] 07paladox 03d5cb4b7 - Switch cwarswiki to new mount
[17:36:41] <Not-f817>	 [02miraheze/mw-config] 07paladox pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/JeGR6
[17:36:42] <Not-f817>	 [02miraheze/mw-config] 07paladox 038fc56f7 - Switch breedersofthenephelymwiki to new mount
[17:40:30] <Not-f817>	 [02miraheze/mw-config] 07paladox pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/JeGRM
[17:40:31] <Not-f817>	 [02miraheze/mw-config] 07paladox 03be72fc4 - Revert "Switch breedersofthenephelymwiki to new mount" This reverts commit 8fc56f76197cae1f3dcc6c3d21eeb33cc6d9e89a.
[17:40:37] <paladox>	 was a duplicate
[17:40:40] <paladox>	 i did it before
[17:40:56] <RhinosF1>	 Okay
[20:37:59] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - ns1 GDNSD Datacenters on ns1 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL - 1 datacenter is down: 128.199.139.216/cpweb
[20:38:34] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - cp3 Varnish Backends on cp3 is CRITICAL: 2 backends are down. mw1 mw3
[20:41:18] <icinga-miraheze>	 RECOVERY - ns1 GDNSD Datacenters on ns1 is OK: OK - all datacenters are online
[20:41:31] <icinga-miraheze>	 RECOVERY - cp3 Varnish Backends on cp3 is OK: All 5 backends are healthy
[20:48:10] <RhinosF1>	 .in 5 mins mwe
[20:48:11] <ZppixBot>	 RhinosF1: Okay, I will set the reminder for: 2019-09-25 - 21:53:10BST
[20:53:10] <ZppixBot>	 RhinosF1: mwe
[20:53:25] <RhinosF1>	 thx
[21:30:43] <Zppix>	 paladox:  how do I send patches to gerrit without having it have to go through review?
[21:31:00] <paladox>	 you do git push origin HEAD:refs/heads/master
[21:31:09] <Zppix>	 paladox:  sweet thanks
[21:31:10] <paladox>	 but you need the push perms in the ACL
[21:31:39] <Zppix>	 paladox:  I would hope I have that considering its the repo for my bot xD (i know i do infact i should  have all the perms on the repo)
[21:31:59] <paladox>	 nope, we doin't grant that automatically
[21:32:07] <paladox>	 as we want to prevent directly merging :)
[21:32:21] <Zppix>	 paladox:  I have full control over the repo's acl
[21:32:25] <paladox>	 yup
[21:58:58] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - munwiki.info - LetsEncrypt on sslhost is WARNING: WARNING - Certificate 'munwiki.info' expires in 15 day(s) (Fri 11 Oct 2019 09:54:51 PM GMT +0000).
[21:59:13] <Not-f817>	 [02miraheze/ssl] 07MirahezeSSLBot pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/JeGzu
[21:59:14] <Not-f817>	 [02miraheze/ssl] 07MirahezeSSLBot 03ffba312 - Bot: Update SSL cert for munwiki.info
[22:04:46] <icinga-miraheze>	 RECOVERY - munwiki.info - LetsEncrypt on sslhost is OK: OK - Certificate 'munwiki.info' will expire on Tue 24 Dec 2019 08:59:07 PM GMT +0000.
[23:33:32] <Examknow>	 hi everyone
[23:50:55] <Zppix>	 hi Examknow