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[01:51:43] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - ns1 GDNSD Datacenters on ns1 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL - 2 datacenters are down: 81.4.109.133/cpweb, 2a00:d880:5:8ea::ebc7/cpweb
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[01:57:23] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - misc4 Current Load on misc4 is WARNING: WARNING - load average: 2.37, 3.96, 2.73
[01:59:24] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - misc4 Current Load on misc4 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL - load average: 4.76, 4.31, 3.00
[02:01:24] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - misc4 Current Load on misc4 is WARNING: WARNING - load average: 2.07, 3.43, 2.83
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[02:12:25] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - misc4 SSH on misc4 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL - Socket timeout after 10 seconds
[02:13:11] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - cp4 HTTP 4xx/5xx ERROR Rate on cp4 is CRITICAL: CHECK_NRPE STATE CRITICAL: Socket timeout after 10 seconds.
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[02:21:21] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - misc4 Current Load on misc4 is WARNING: WARNING - load average: 0.33, 2.82, 3.64
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[02:34:02] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - test1 Current Load on test1 is WARNING: WARNING - load average: 0.46, 0.45, 1.83
[02:34:55] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - cp4 Current Load on cp4 is WARNING: WARNING - load average: 0.22, 0.47, 1.99
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[02:38:52] <icinga-miraheze>	 RECOVERY - cp4 Current Load on cp4 is OK: OK - load average: 0.30, 0.39, 1.60
[04:07:34] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - mw1 Current Load on mw1 is WARNING: WARNING - load average: 6.84, 5.95, 4.46
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[04:32:35] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - misc2 Current Load on misc2 is WARNING: WARNING - load average: 3.61, 3.22, 2.84
[04:38:32] <icinga-miraheze>	 RECOVERY - misc2 Current Load on misc2 is OK: OK - load average: 3.26, 3.38, 3.04
[07:01:33] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - mw3 JobQueue on mw3 is CRITICAL: JOBQUEUE CRITICAL - job queue greater than 300 jobs. Current queue: 2768
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[09:12:55] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - misc2 Current Load on misc2 is WARNING: WARNING - load average: 3.56, 3.28, 2.93
[09:14:54] <icinga-miraheze>	 RECOVERY - misc2 Current Load on misc2 is OK: OK - load average: 3.09, 3.17, 2.93
[10:32:22] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - misc2 Current Load on misc2 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL - load average: 4.21, 3.38, 3.03
[10:34:21] <icinga-miraheze>	 RECOVERY - misc2 Current Load on misc2 is OK: OK - load average: 3.25, 3.32, 3.05
[10:38:19] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - misc2 Current Load on misc2 is WARNING: WARNING - load average: 3.43, 3.40, 3.15
[10:40:18] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - misc2 Current Load on misc2 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL - load average: 4.35, 3.68, 3.28
[10:44:16] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - misc2 Current Load on misc2 is WARNING: WARNING - load average: 3.82, 3.94, 3.48
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[14:22:49] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07paladox 03de5ad6a - Add missing namespace fields to populateNamespaces
[14:22:51] <Not-7290>	 [02ManageWiki] 07paladox opened pull request 03#106: Add missing namespace fields to populateNamespaces - 13https://git.io/fjrSx
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[14:29:50] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07paladox 03fa59372 - Update populateNamespaces.php
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[14:30:36] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07paladox 0340b0bd1 - Update populateNamespaces.php
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[15:14:32] * Hispano76 saluda
[16:33:18] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07paladox pushed 031 commit to 03paladox-patch-2 [+1/-0/±0] 13https://git.io/fjr7o
[16:33:20] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07paladox 037cf501d - ManageWikiNamespaces: Add script to add namespaces
[16:33:21] <Not-7290>	 [02ManageWiki] 07paladox created branch 03paladox-patch-2 - 13https://git.io/vpSns
[16:33:23] <Not-7290>	 [02ManageWiki] 07paladox opened pull request 03#107: ManageWikiNamespaces: Add script to add namespaces - 13https://git.io/fjr7K
[16:39:55] <RhinosF1>	 Paladox: what interesting thing are you building?
[16:40:42] <paladox>	 A script to add namespaces.
[16:41:37] <RhinosF1>	 Paladox: how different from MW/N
[16:42:03] <paladox>	 Not really different, and will only be used by staff.
[16:43:04] <RhinosF1>	 Paladox: just seen it's a php script
[16:43:10] <paladox>	 yup
[16:43:41] <Not-7290>	 [02ManageWiki] 07JohnFLewis reviewed pull request 03#107 commit - 13https://git.io/fjr7D
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[16:51:26] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07paladox pushed 031 commit to 03paladox-patch-2 [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/fjr5k
[16:51:27] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07paladox 03ddfc518 - Update addNamespaces.php
[16:51:38] <paladox>	 JohnLewis done ^^
[16:51:45] <paladox>	 i think that addresses all your feedback?
[16:53:07] <JohnLewis>	 mostly I guess besides spellings and whether you're using arg and options right and some of the names are just ugly even internally (like why nscore, why not core?)
[16:53:51] <paladox>	 I guess i can drop the ns prefix.
[16:56:30] <Not-7290>	 [02ManageWiki] 07paladox synchronize pull request 03#107: ManageWikiNamespaces: Add script to add namespaces - 13https://git.io/fjr7K
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[16:56:33] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07paladox 03c900f2b - Update addNamespaces.php
[16:56:34] <paladox>	 JohnLewis better name now :)
[16:57:24] <JohnLewis>	 "defaultdb" seems ugly, is db even needed? and then that's only 1/3 of my issues solved
[16:57:44] <paladox>	 JohnLewis we need to be able to say wheather to use the default db.
[16:57:51] <paladox>	 e.g ns_dbname = 'default'
[16:57:57] <paladox>	 so yes
[16:58:10] <JohnLewis>	 "so yes" that's not even what I asked
[16:58:32] <JohnLewis>	 "defaultdb" seems ugly, is the db even needed
[16:58:39] <paladox>	 oh
[16:58:58] <paladox>	 you were asking about the text (not wheather the arg was needed?)
[16:59:04] <JohnLewis>	 yes
[16:59:36] <Not-7290>	 [02ManageWiki] 07paladox synchronize pull request 03#107: ManageWikiNamespaces: Add script to add namespaces - 13https://git.io/fjr7K
[16:59:36] <paladox>	 done
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[16:59:39] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07paladox 034b9eaa8 - Update addNamespaces.php
[17:00:06] <JohnLewis>	 okay, still the 2 previously mentioned issues left
[17:00:25] <paladox>	 JohnLewis spelling and arg vs opt?
[17:00:32] <JohnLewis>	 yes
[17:01:29] <paladox>	 JohnLewis The spelling looks correct to me :)
[17:01:39] <JohnLewis>	 Wheather looks correct?
[17:02:46] <paladox>	 ah
[17:03:22] <Not-7290>	 [02ManageWiki] 07paladox synchronize pull request 03#107: ManageWikiNamespaces: Add script to add namespaces - 13https://git.io/fjr7K
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[17:03:25] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07paladox 03fb099db - Update addNamespaces.php
[17:04:55] <paladox>	 JohnLewis so the arg vs opt thing, i guess arg is usually used if you want to do if <arg defined> right?
[17:05:18] <JohnLewis>	 no, arg requires input
[17:06:40] <paladox>	 ahhh
[17:06:59] <paladox>	 ok, well they all require input apart from 'default'.
[17:07:11] <JohnLewis>	 do they?
[17:07:24] <paladox>	 yes? core=1 etc.
[17:07:35] <JohnLewis>	 --core is true, nothing is false4
[17:08:34] <paladox>	 yeh if you supplu --core it'll always be true regardless of the value
[17:08:39] <paladox>	 *supply
[17:08:44] <JohnLewis>	 yeah?
[17:09:01] <paladox>	 Which is bad i guess.
[17:09:07] <paladox>	 Now come to think of it
[17:09:16] <paladox>	 it'll make it a boolean (true/false)
[17:09:38] <paladox>	 So i guess it should be a opt so that you'll force to give it a value?
[17:10:00] <JohnLewis>	 do you need to force it?
[17:10:20] <paladox>	 Yes? Why wouldn't i need to force a value?
[17:10:35] <JohnLewis>	 because --core is true, nothing is false
[17:11:29] <paladox>	 I doin't understand?
[17:11:43] <JohnLewis>	 what don't you understand?
[17:11:53] <JohnLewis>	 it's an option flag
[17:13:01] <paladox>	 I'll brb (dinner).
[17:13:52] <paladox>	 JohnLewis what im not understanding is should i be using addOption or addArg?
[17:14:02] <JohnLewis>	 addoption
[17:14:08] <JohnLewis>	 because it's an option
[17:14:13] <paladox>	 ok.
[17:27:19] <paladox>	 JohnLewis im back
[17:27:31] <paladox>	 JohnLewis are you still there?
[17:27:42] <JohnLewis>	 yes
[17:28:18] <paladox>	 JohnLewis so im not understanding this issue. Is the issue because i enabled the arg?
[17:28:28] <JohnLewis>	 yes
[17:28:33] <paladox>	 ah
[17:28:34] <JohnLewis>	 and made it required
[17:28:37] <paladox>	 so true, false
[17:28:46] <JohnLewis>	 no
[17:29:11] <paladox>	 i'm completely confused then.
[17:29:14] <JohnLewis>	 no need to even specify them
[17:30:22] <paladox>	 JohnLewis so false, false?
[17:30:31] <JohnLewis>	 no need to even specify them
[17:30:45] <paladox>	 ok
[17:31:19] <paladox>	 Done
[17:31:19] <Not-7290>	 [02ManageWiki] 07paladox synchronize pull request 03#107: ManageWikiNamespaces: Add script to add namespaces - 13https://git.io/fjr7K
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[17:31:22] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07paladox 0337f59fd - Update addNamespaces.php
[17:31:42] <JohnLewis>	 is name optional and an option?
[17:31:49] <JohnLewis>	 is protection an option?
[17:32:02] <JohnLewis>	 is content model an option?
[17:32:12] <paladox>	 It's all required
[17:32:33] <paladox>	 but you said not to specify it.
[17:32:44] <JohnLewis>	 yes... for options
[17:32:58] <paladox>	 ?
[17:33:05] <paladox>	 --core=test is required
[17:33:06] <JohnLewis>	 all those 3 I listed aren't options, they option-args
[17:33:11] <paladox>	 --name=test
[17:33:12] <paladox>	 is required
[17:33:25] <JohnLewis>	 no... --core isn't an option-arg, it's an option
[17:33:41] <paladox>	 huh
[17:34:25] <paladox>	 JohnLewis it's all required though?
[17:34:36] <paladox>	 you carn't do just --name=test 
[17:34:52] <JohnLewis>	 --core is TRUE
[17:35:00] <JohnLewis>	 if it's not there, its FALSE
[17:35:07] <JohnLewis>	 that's an OPTION
[17:35:15] <paladox>	 it shouldn't be an option.
[17:35:24] <JohnLewis>	 but it IS an option
[17:35:28] <paladox>	 https://github.com/miraheze/ManageWiki/blob/f0fa7168a2943a192090a4a9103e9b5999f43c22/includes/helpers/ManageWikiNamespaces.php#L159
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[17:35:45] <paladox>	 hold on...
[17:35:51] <paladox>	 they are all arguments.
[17:35:58] <JohnLewis>	 no they're not...
[17:36:49] * paladox dosn't know then
[17:36:55] <JohnLewis>	 doesn't know what?
[17:37:38] <paladox>	 I doin't know what you mean.
[17:37:50] <JohnLewis>	 what am I saying that you don't understand?
[17:38:15] <paladox>	 In my mind $this->addOption( 'id', 'The namespace id e.g 1.', true, true ); means --id=1 (e.g --id is required and =1 is a argument so also required)
[17:38:26] <JohnLewis>	 yes
[17:38:29] <JohnLewis>	 that is correct
[17:38:46] * RhinosF1 likes when John and Paladox debate things. It's quite amusing to the bystander.
[17:38:57] <JohnLewis>	 RhinosF1: hardly a debate :)
[17:39:48] <paladox>	 So what am i doing wrong exactly?
[17:40:04] <JohnLewis>	 name, contentmodel and protection aren't options
[17:40:07] <JohnLewis>	 they're option-args
[17:40:11] <JohnLewis>	 (like id)
[17:40:28] <paladox>	 what's a option-args exactly? So something like --core and --core=1?)
[17:40:37] <JohnLewis>	 --id=1 is an option-arg
[17:40:46] <paladox>	 oh
[17:41:46] <paladox>	 JohnLewis so what your saying is i should use addArg?
[17:41:50] <JohnLewis>	 no
[17:41:55] <JohnLewis>	 addArg is a [arg]
[17:42:03] <JohnLewis>	 not a --option=arg
[17:42:25] <JohnLewis>	 I'm presuming you want the option-arg approach
[17:42:45] <paladox>	 yes
[17:42:53] <paladox>	 Im confused what the problem is?
[17:43:03] <JohnLewis>	 right now, name, contentmodel and protection are options
[17:43:38] <paladox>	 JohnLewis now there not :)
[17:43:39] <Not-7290>	 [02ManageWiki] 07paladox synchronize pull request 03#107: ManageWikiNamespaces: Add script to add namespaces - 13https://git.io/fjr7K
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[17:43:42] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07paladox 034dbdd4c - Update addNamespaces.php
[17:43:53] <JohnLewis>	 yes they are
[17:43:58] <JohnLewis>	 and that change revers back
[17:44:03] <JohnLewis>	 which I really do not approve of
[17:44:16] <JohnLewis>	 because you're making stuff which should be options, option-args
[17:45:12] <paladox>	 ok, well then obviously im completely off base then.
[17:45:21] * paladox still dosen't understand
[17:45:30] <JohnLewis>	 yes you are, you're not listening to me and it's quite obvious you haven't read the docs
[17:46:00] <paladox>	 I haven't read the docs, because what i want is "$this->addOption( 'name', 'The name of the namespace e.g \'Module\'.', true, true );"
[17:46:11] <JohnLewis>	 yes, FOR THAT ONE
[17:46:17] <paladox>	 and the rest
[17:46:19] <JohnLewis>	 but the others, no
[17:47:13] <paladox>	 huh?
[17:47:21] <JohnLewis>	 I'm failing to understand how you know what you want, when you haven't read the docs but are able to tell someone who has not only read the docs but used this countless time, doesn't know what the desired behaviour is
[17:47:52] <paladox>	 Because i've already been through https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki/blob/master/maintenance/Maintenance.php
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[17:48:18] <paladox>	 and also looking at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Writing_maintenance_scripts#Option_and_argument_parsing is exactly what i want
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[17:48:20] <paladox>	 --core=1
[17:48:22] <JohnLewis>	 yes, but the docs clearly miss you because you're not able to understand the differences and are wanting behaviour which is wrong
[17:48:22] <paladox>	 --id=1
[17:48:26] <JohnLewis>	 you DO NOT want --core=1
[17:48:30] <JohnLewis>	 you want --core or nothing
[17:48:36] <paladox>	 oh
[17:48:38] <JohnLewis>	 --core or nothing is a BOOL
[17:48:44] <JohnLewis>	 --core=1 is an OPTION-ARG
[17:48:57] <JohnLewis>	 an option is a flag, an option-arg is an input
[17:49:14] <paladox>	 ohhhhhhh
[17:49:39] <paladox>	 so all the fields that use 1 or 0 should be opt-arg?
[17:49:43] <paladox>	 e.g searchable
[17:49:49] <JohnLewis>	 no, they should be options
[17:50:16] <RhinosF1>	 JohnLewis: well when Paladox gets things wrong or does it in strange ways and then you have to explain it.
[17:50:32] <paladox>	 now here is what confused me
[17:50:44] <JohnLewis>	 RhinosF1: I have, several times already :) and I've even told him to read the docs
[17:50:45] <paladox>	 How do you tell what needs to be an opt or opt-arg?
[17:50:57] <JohnLewis>	 paladox: an option is a BOOL, an option-arg is an INPUT
[17:50:59] <JohnLewis>	 as I said above
[17:51:10] <paladox>	 yes
[17:51:22] <paladox>	 searchable is like core
[17:51:25] <paladox>	 it does 0 or 1
[17:51:26] <JohnLewis>	 yes
[17:51:33] <JohnLewis>	 which is a bool :)
[17:51:53] <paladox>	 oh f*** me, hahahaha
[17:52:03] <RhinosF1>	 JohnLewis: you remember the import of templates to my wiki.
[17:52:22] <JohnLewis>	 RhinosF1: perhaps, I don't really do imports or ever touch them :)
[17:52:22] <paladox>	 so ns_searchable, ns_subpages, ns_content and ns_core should be opts JohnLewis ?
[17:52:30] <JohnLewis>	 yes
[17:53:34] <Not-7290>	 [02ManageWiki] 07paladox synchronize pull request 03#107: ManageWikiNamespaces: Add script to add namespaces - 13https://git.io/fjr7K
[17:53:35] <paladox>	 JohnLewis done
[17:53:36] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07paladox pushed 031 commit to 03paladox-patch-2 [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/fjrdm
[17:53:37] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07paladox 037f61e3c - Update addNamespaces.php
[17:53:52] <JohnLewis>	 paladox: kind of
[17:53:58] <JohnLewis>	 can you now tell me why requiring them, is bad?
[17:54:20] <paladox>	 oh
[17:54:22] <paladox>	 yes
[17:54:27] <paladox>	 because it's a bool
[17:54:32] <paladox>	 so i basically made it always true
[17:54:39] <JohnLewis>	 yep
[17:55:01] <Not-7290>	 [02ManageWiki] 07paladox synchronize pull request 03#107: ManageWikiNamespaces: Add script to add namespaces - 13https://git.io/fjr7K
[17:55:03] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07paladox pushed 031 commit to 03paladox-patch-2 [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/fjrd3
[17:55:03] <paladox>	 JohnLewis done
[17:55:04] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07paladox 032306c6a - Update addNamespaces.php
[17:55:19] <RhinosF1>	 JohnLewis: http://wm-bot.wmflabs.org/browser/index.php?start=06%2F03%2F2019&end=06%2F04%2F2019&display=%23miraheze about 20:30 onwards
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[17:55:32] <JohnLewis>	 paladox: now it all looks good (eventually) :)
[17:55:40] <paladox>	 :D
[17:55:51] <Not-7290>	 [02ManageWiki] 07paladox closed pull request 03#107: ManageWikiNamespaces: Add script to add namespaces - 13https://git.io/fjr7K
[17:55:53] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07paladox pushed 031 commit to 03master [+1/-0/±0] 13https://git.io/fjrdn
[17:55:54] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07paladox 0334b857e - ManageWikiNamespaces: Add script to add namespaces (#107) * ManageWikiNamespaces: Add script to add namespaces * Update addNamespaces.php * Update addNamespaces.php * Update addNamespaces.php * Update addNamespaces.php * Update addNamespaces.php * Update addNamespaces.php * Update addNamespaces.php * Update addNamespaces.php
[17:55:56] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07paladox deleted branch 03paladox-patch-2
[17:55:57] <Not-7290>	 [02ManageWiki] 07paladox deleted branch 03paladox-patch-2 - 13https://git.io/vpSns
[17:56:07] <paladox>	 JohnLewis can you look into fixing the deleteWikis script please? :)
[17:56:09] <JohnLewis>	 paladox: ^^ se RhinosF1, that's a you ping technically :)
[17:56:24] <JohnLewis>	 yes, it's on my work list with a lot of things
[17:56:42] <JohnLewis>	 mostly actually doing the implementation correctly because that's the fix
[17:56:48] <JohnLewis>	 *fully not correctly
[17:56:51] <paladox>	 Yeh, i did the import. But that's all i did was import.
[17:56:56] <paladox>	 nothing to really remember about it.
[17:58:12] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/mediawiki] 07paladox pushed 031 commit to 03REL1_32 [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/fjrd8
[17:58:13] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/mediawiki] 07paladox 03ba9d66c - Update MW
[17:58:18] <RhinosF1>	 Paladox: didn't you mess the syntax up compressing the dB and then when John fixed it you rerverted it and then re did it.
[17:58:59] <paladox>	 JohnLewis did you fix his db ^?
[17:59:11] <paladox>	 i doin't remember that also no, compressing wouldn't break it.
[17:59:28] <JohnLewis>	 uh, if I did anything it'll be in SAL
[17:59:45] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/mediawiki] 07paladox pushed 031 commit to 03REL1_33 [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/fjrdE
[17:59:47] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/mediawiki] 07paladox 03a6dd9b9 - Update MW
[18:00:43] <paladox>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Tech:Server_admin_log#2019-06-03
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[18:04:34] <RhinosF1>	 Paladox: look at the commit void links after saying wtf on that day
[18:04:54] <paladox>	 Which commit?
[18:05:23] <paladox>	 oh
[18:05:54] <paladox>	 That's a syntax error, which was later fixed.
[18:09:55] <RhinosF1>	 Paladox: yeah but took way too many commits to fix and John having to rant for a bit.
[18:13:36] <paladox>	 yup
[18:13:48] <paladox>	 RhinosF1 im not sure what your getting at though?
[18:15:54] <JohnLewis>	 I always rant
[18:16:32] <paladox>	 JohnLewis you do? I've never noticed :D
[18:16:54] <JohnLewis>	 I'm a manager by day and night, I'm a professional ranter
[18:17:41] <RhinosF1>	 Just how you and John are fun when you make mistakes and he rants
[18:31:12] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/mw-config] 07paladox pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/fjrFO
[18:31:14] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/mw-config] 07paladox 0316b8a76 - Set wgManageWikiNamespacesExtraContentModels in LE Also adds Scribunto Change-Id: I041bd15c013702e1b734164a2d765a0f104d98eb
[18:46:00] <Not-7290>	 [02ManageWiki] 07paladox synchronize pull request 03#106: Add missing namespace fields to populateNamespaces - 13https://git.io/fjrSx
[18:46:01] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07paladox pushed 031 commit to 03paladox-patch-1 [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/fjrF2
[18:46:03] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07paladox 03a0b61fa - Update populateNamespaces.php
[18:47:13] <Not-7290>	 [02ManageWiki] 07paladox closed pull request 03#106: Add missing namespace fields to populateNamespaces - 13https://git.io/fjrSx
[18:47:14] <Not-7290>	 [02ManageWiki] 07paladox reopened pull request 03#106: Add missing namespace fields to populateNamespaces - 13https://git.io/fjrSx
[18:51:18] <Not-7290>	 [02ManageWiki] 07paladox closed pull request 03#106: Add missing namespace fields to populateNamespaces - 13https://git.io/fjrSx
[18:51:19] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07paladox pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/fjrFK
[18:51:21] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07paladox 03e0a9181 - Add missing namespace fields to populateNamespaces (#106) * Add missing namespace fields to populateNamespaces * Update populateNamespaces.php * Update populateNamespaces.php * Update populateNamespaces.php
[18:51:23] <Not-7290>	 [02ManageWiki] 07paladox deleted branch 03paladox-patch-1 - 13https://git.io/vpSns
[18:51:24] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07paladox deleted branch 03paladox-patch-1
[18:51:57] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/mediawiki] 07paladox pushed 031 commit to 03REL1_32 [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/fjrF6
[18:51:59] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/mediawiki] 07paladox 0394596de - Update MW
[19:12:12] <Not-7290>	 [02ManageWiki] 07paladox created branch 03paladox-patch-1 - 13https://git.io/vpSns
[19:12:14] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07paladox pushed 031 commit to 03paladox-patch-1 [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/fjrbv
[19:12:15] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07paladox 03f36b381 - Fix populateGroupPermissionsWithDefaults script This script was adding namespaces and updating cw_wikis which is not what was supposed to happen. This fixes it by copying the bits we want that touches perms.
[19:12:17] <Not-7290>	 [02ManageWiki] 07paladox opened pull request 03#108: Fix populateGroupPermissionsWithDefaults script - 13https://git.io/fjrbf
[19:12:51] <Not-7290>	 [02ManageWiki] 07paladox synchronize pull request 03#108: Fix populateGroupPermissionsWithDefaults script - 13https://git.io/fjrbf
[19:12:52] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07paladox pushed 031 commit to 03paladox-patch-1 [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/fjrbJ
[19:12:54] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07paladox 03611f6b6 - Update populateGroupPermissionsWithDefaults.php
[19:18:01] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07paladox pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/fjrbk
[19:18:02] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07paladox 03478fdbd - Fix populateGroupPermissionsWithDefaults script (#108) * Fix populateGroupPermissionsWithDefaults script This script was adding namespaces and updating cw_wikis which is not what was supposed to happen. This fixes it by copying the bits we want that touches perms. * Update populateGroupPermissionsWithDefaults.php
[19:18:04] <Not-7290>	 [02ManageWiki] 07paladox closed pull request 03#108: Fix populateGroupPermissionsWithDefaults script - 13https://git.io/fjrbf
[19:18:05] <Not-7290>	 [02ManageWiki] 07paladox deleted branch 03paladox-patch-1 - 13https://git.io/vpSns
[19:18:07] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07paladox deleted branch 03paladox-patch-1
[19:19:56] <Not-7290>	 [02ManageWiki] 07paladox created branch 03paladox-patch-1 - 13https://git.io/vpSns
[19:19:58] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07paladox pushed 031 commit to 03paladox-patch-1 [+1/-0/±0] 13https://git.io/fjrbq
[19:20:00] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07paladox 032b81725 - Add a script to add default namespaces This is aka to resetting all namespaces back to default for a the wiki.
[19:20:01] <Not-7290>	 [02ManageWiki] 07paladox opened pull request 03#109: Add a script to add default namespaces - 13https://git.io/fjrbm
[19:23:58] <Not-7290>	 [02ManageWiki] 07paladox closed pull request 03#109: Add a script to add default namespaces - 13https://git.io/fjrbm
[19:23:59] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07paladox pushed 031 commit to 03master [+1/-0/±0] 13https://git.io/fjrbZ
[19:24:01] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07paladox 03762641f - Add a script to add default namespaces (#109) This is aka to resetting all namespaces back to default for a the wiki.
[19:24:02] <Not-7290>	 [02ManageWiki] 07paladox deleted branch 03paladox-patch-1 - 13https://git.io/vpSns
[19:24:04] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07paladox deleted branch 03paladox-patch-1
[19:24:58] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/mediawiki] 07paladox pushed 031 commit to 03REL1_33 [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/fjrbn
[19:24:59] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/mediawiki] 07paladox 037e9b822 - Update MW
[19:26:24] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/mediawiki] 07paladox pushed 031 commit to 03REL1_32 [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/fjrbR
[19:26:25] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/mediawiki] 07paladox 03e6b4386 - Update MW
[19:30:19] <paladox>	 !log delete from mw_namespaces where ns_namespace_name = 'Module';
[19:30:24] <paladox>	 !log delete from mw_namespaces where ns_namespace_name = 'Module_talk';
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