[00:15:17] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/CreateWiki] 07JohnFLewis pushed 032 commits to 03master [+1/-0/±4] 13https://git.io/fjl3g
[00:15:19] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/CreateWiki] 07JohnFLewis 0303ea80f - move to easiser request creation model
[00:15:20] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/CreateWiki] 07JohnFLewis 036a2985f - move to easiser request creation model
[00:27:28] <icinga-miraheze>	 RECOVERY - test1 Puppet on test1 is OK: OK: Puppet is currently enabled, last run 1 minute ago with 0 failures
[01:23:39] <Hispano76>	 Miraheze is too slow, is it failing?
[01:30:54] <JohnLewis>	 Hispano76: it's fine for me
[01:31:36] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/mediawiki] 07JohnFLewis pushed 031 commit to 03REL1_32 [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/fjlsT
[01:31:37] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/mediawiki] 07JohnFLewis 039899272 - update CW
[01:37:34] <Hispano76>	 remains the same :/
[01:37:40] <Hispano76>	 JohnLewis: 
[01:38:00] <JohnLewis>	 which country/continent are you connecting wrong?
[01:38:03] <JohnLewis>	 *from
[01:39:29] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - test1 Puppet on test1 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL: Puppet has 1 failures. Last run 3 minutes ago with 1 failures. Failed resources (up to 3 shown): Exec[git_pull_MediaWiki core]
[01:39:47] <Hispano76>	 JohnLewis: America
[01:40:55] <JohnLewis>	 Voidwalker: how are things for you?
[01:43:25] <Voidwalker>	 seems to be a bit slower than usual, but not terrible
[01:43:56] <Voidwalker>	 actually, seems about normal
[01:47:45] <Hispano76>	 in Allthetropes.org and continues to "load" the page  https://prnt.sc/noo6ha While in the other wikis it's "charging" in white. 
[01:47:46] <ZppixBot>	 [ Screenshot by Lightshot ] - prnt.sc
[01:51:53] <JohnLewis>	 probably an issue with cp2
[01:54:52] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/CreateWiki] 07JohnFLewis pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/fjlsC
[01:54:53] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/CreateWiki] 07JohnFLewis 03b0ba3f3 - reduce code duplication
[01:55:16] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/mediawiki] 07JohnFLewis pushed 031 commit to 03REL1_32 [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/fjlsW
[01:55:18] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/mediawiki] 07JohnFLewis 0390cf627 - update CW
[02:13:44] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/CreateWiki] 07JohnFLewis pushed 032 commits to 03master [+0/-0/±2] 13https://git.io/fjlso
[02:13:46] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/CreateWiki] 07JohnFLewis 03163c25b - add missing echo stuff
[02:13:47] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/CreateWiki] 07JohnFLewis 03e4905d9 - fix reference names
[02:14:19] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/mediawiki] 07JohnFLewis pushed 031 commit to 03REL1_32 [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/fjls6
[02:14:21] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/mediawiki] 07JohnFLewis 03aecdf10 - update CW
[02:19:22] <Hispano76>	 :/
[02:19:39] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - mw3 JobQueue on mw3 is UNKNOWN: NRPE: Unable to read output
[02:20:56] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - cp3 Varnish Backends on cp3 is CRITICAL: 2 backends are down. mw2 mw3
[02:21:08] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - cp4 Varnish Backends on cp4 is CRITICAL: 2 backends are down. mw2 mw3
[02:21:29] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - cp2 Varnish Backends on cp2 is CRITICAL: 2 backends are down. mw2 mw3
[02:22:27] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - mw1 Current Load on mw1 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL - load average: 9.99, 6.28, 3.47
[02:26:32] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/CreateWiki] 07JohnFLewis pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/fjlsM
[02:26:33] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/CreateWiki] 07JohnFLewis 031639de7 - fix dbname source
[02:26:58] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/mediawiki] 07JohnFLewis pushed 031 commit to 03REL1_32 [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/fjlsy
[02:27:17] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/mediawiki] 07JohnFLewis 03461b33f - update CW
[02:28:26] <icinga-miraheze>	 RECOVERY - mw1 Current Load on mw1 is OK: OK - load average: 4.10, 6.78, 4.74
[02:30:46] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - ns1 GDNSD Datacenters on ns1 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL - 6 datacenters are down: 107.191.126.23/cpweb, 2604:180:0:33b::2/cpweb, 128.199.139.216/cpweb, 2400:6180:0:d0::403:f001/cpweb, 81.4.109.133/cpweb, 2a00:d880:5:8ea::ebc7/cpweb
[02:31:24] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - cp4 HTTP 4xx/5xx ERROR Rate on cp4 is WARNING: WARNING - NGINX Error Rate is 56%
[02:31:37] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - cp2 HTTP 4xx/5xx ERROR Rate on cp2 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL - NGINX Error Rate is 61%
[02:31:42] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - misc1 GDNSD Datacenters on misc1 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL - 6 datacenters are down: 107.191.126.23/cpweb, 2604:180:0:33b::2/cpweb, 128.199.139.216/cpweb, 2400:6180:0:d0::403:f001/cpweb, 81.4.109.133/cpweb, 2a00:d880:5:8ea::ebc7/cpweb
[02:33:24] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - cp4 HTTP 4xx/5xx ERROR Rate on cp4 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL - NGINX Error Rate is 76%
[02:34:16] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - cp3 HTTP 4xx/5xx ERROR Rate on cp3 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL - NGINX Error Rate is 94%
[02:40:10] <MH-Discord>	 <The Pioneer> now it's not; we have this error 503 again
[02:40:16] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - cp3 HTTP 4xx/5xx ERROR Rate on cp3 is WARNING: WARNING - NGINX Error Rate is 57%
[02:41:24] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - cp4 HTTP 4xx/5xx ERROR Rate on cp4 is WARNING: WARNING - NGINX Error Rate is 43%
[02:41:37] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - cp2 HTTP 4xx/5xx ERROR Rate on cp2 is WARNING: WARNING - NGINX Error Rate is 56%
[02:42:22] <Voidwalker>	 yeah, this is odd
[02:44:16] <icinga-miraheze>	 RECOVERY - cp3 HTTP 4xx/5xx ERROR Rate on cp3 is OK: OK - NGINX Error Rate is 37%
[02:45:24] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - cp4 HTTP 4xx/5xx ERROR Rate on cp4 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL - NGINX Error Rate is 79%
[02:45:37] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - cp2 HTTP 4xx/5xx ERROR Rate on cp2 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL - NGINX Error Rate is 67%
[02:48:01] <Voidwalker>	 JohnLewis, if you're around, could you take a look at what's going on?
[02:48:16] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - cp3 HTTP 4xx/5xx ERROR Rate on cp3 is WARNING: WARNING - NGINX Error Rate is 46%
[02:49:23] <MH-Discord>	 <The Pioneer> John ^^
[02:50:13] <icinga-miraheze>	 RECOVERY - ns1 GDNSD Datacenters on ns1 is OK: OK - all datacenters are online
[02:51:24] <icinga-miraheze>	 RECOVERY - cp4 HTTP 4xx/5xx ERROR Rate on cp4 is OK: OK - NGINX Error Rate is 2%
[02:51:37] <icinga-miraheze>	 RECOVERY - cp2 HTTP 4xx/5xx ERROR Rate on cp2 is OK: OK - NGINX Error Rate is 3%
[02:51:42] <icinga-miraheze>	 RECOVERY - misc1 GDNSD Datacenters on misc1 is OK: OK - all datacenters are online
[02:52:16] <icinga-miraheze>	 RECOVERY - cp3 HTTP 4xx/5xx ERROR Rate on cp3 is OK: OK - NGINX Error Rate is 4%
[02:53:39] <icinga-miraheze>	 RECOVERY - mw3 JobQueue on mw3 is OK: JOBQUEUE OK - job queue below 300 jobs
[02:54:56] <icinga-miraheze>	 RECOVERY - cp3 Varnish Backends on cp3 is OK: All 5 backends are healthy
[02:55:08] <icinga-miraheze>	 RECOVERY - cp4 Varnish Backends on cp4 is OK: All 5 backends are healthy
[02:55:29] <icinga-miraheze>	 RECOVERY - cp2 Varnish Backends on cp2 is OK: All 5 backends are healthy
[03:00:16] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/CreateWiki] 07JohnFLewis pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±2] 13https://git.io/fjlGv
[03:00:18] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/CreateWiki] 07JohnFLewis 0360fea85 - add missing i18n
[03:01:42] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/mediawiki] 07JohnFLewis pushed 031 commit to 03REL1_32 [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/fjlGJ
[03:01:43] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/mediawiki] 07JohnFLewis 032564dbd - update CW
[04:30:16] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/services] 07MirahezeSSLBot pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/fjlG5
[04:30:18] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/services] 07MirahezeSSLBot 03e97cc68 - BOT: Updating services config for wikis
[05:50:01] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - cp3 Disk Space on cp3 is WARNING: DISK WARNING - free space: / 5058 MB (20% inode=95%);
[06:26:01] <icinga-miraheze>	 RECOVERY - cp3 Disk Space on cp3 is OK: DISK OK - free space: / 5482 MB (22% inode=95%);
[08:31:17] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - db4 Disk Space on db4 is CRITICAL: DISK CRITICAL - free space: / 40274 MB (10% inode=97%);
[08:38:55] <Not-7290>	 [02mw-config] 07bonnedav opened pull request 03#2679: Don't you think? - 13https://git.io/fjlc8
[11:10:12] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/services] 07MirahezeSSLBot pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/fjl84
[11:10:14] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/services] 07MirahezeSSLBot 0389799a3 - BOT: Updating services config for wikis
[12:15:51] <Not-7290>	 [02mw-config] 07JohnFLewis closed pull request 03#2679: Don't you think? - 13https://git.io/fjlc8
[12:15:53] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/mw-config] 07JohnFLewis pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/fjl4a
[12:15:55] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/mw-config] 07bonnedav 031bb2620 - Don't you think? (#2679)
[12:16:35] <Zppix>	 Nah thinking is overrated
[12:40:13] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - mw1 Puppet on mw1 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL: Puppet has 1 failures. Last run 4 minutes ago with 1 failures. Failed resources (up to 3 shown): Exec[git_pull_MediaWiki core]
[12:46:10] <icinga-miraheze>	 RECOVERY - mw1 Puppet on mw1 is OK: OK: Puppet is currently enabled, last run 16 seconds ago with 0 failures
[15:10:01] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - d.taotac.org - LetsEncrypt on sslhost is CRITICAL: Name or service not knownHTTP CRITICAL - Unable to open TCP socket
[15:36:42] <Hispano76>	 hi
[16:12:46] <Hispano76>	 paladox: ping
[16:12:53] <paladox>	 hi
[16:14:52] <Hispano76>	 I need to update my Phabricator account, I changed my username. phabricator.miraheze.org/p/Ucronistaw/  I am now Hispano76 at Miraheze paladox   
[16:15:20] <paladox>	 did you relink that account so it uses your new meta username?
[16:15:40] <Hispano76>	 no, did you relink that account so it uses your new meta username? paladox 
[16:15:52] <Hispano76>	 what
[16:16:20] <Hispano76>	 login with "mediawiki"? paladox 
[16:16:24] <paladox>	 yup
[16:16:43] <Hispano76>	 ok
[16:16:57] <paladox>	 are you already logged in Hispano76 ?
[16:17:36] <Hispano76>	 in Metawiki, yes
[16:17:53] <paladox>	 i mean phab :)
[16:18:21] <Hispano76>	 He's already changed it!  thanks paladox 
[16:18:36] <paladox>	 hmm?
[16:19:13] <Hispano76>	 https://phabricator.miraheze.org/p/Ucronistaw/ Miraheze User Hispano76 [ Global Accounts ] paladox 
[16:19:14] <ZppixBot>	 [ ♟ Ucronistaw ] - phabricator.miraheze.org
[16:20:01] <paladox>	 Hispano76 ok, your renamed now!
[16:20:18] <Hispano76>	 :)
[16:20:43] <paladox>	 !log renamed Ucronistaw  to Hispano76 in phabricator
[16:20:47] <MirahezeLogbot>	 Logged the message at https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Tech:Server_admin_log, Master
[16:20:48] <Hispano76>	 thanks paladox 
[16:46:10] <robkam>	 how to add a user to a private wiki?
[16:46:35] <robkam>	 I followed the instructions at https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Private_wikis/en#Add_users_to_private_wiki
[16:46:35] <ZppixBot>	 [ Private wikis - Miraheze Meta ] - meta.miraheze.org
[16:47:37] <robkam>	 and get: There is no user by the name "...". Check your spelling.
[16:48:30] <robkam>	 they're already a member on sdiywiki
[16:56:52] <Voidwalker>	 they need to have an account on the private wiki, easiest to do by simply visiting the wiki while logged in to their account
[18:03:25] <MacFan4000>	 Zppix: are you still having that notification issue?
[19:53:31] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/CreateWiki] 07JohnFLewis pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/fjlVQ
[19:53:32] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/CreateWiki] 07JohnFLewis 03cdb6fc1 - validate new subdoma in RWE
[20:20:09] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/mw-config] 07paladox pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±2] 13https://git.io/fjlwn
[20:20:10] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/mw-config] 07paladox 036d9b37c - Add wgMetaNamespace and wgMetaNamespaceTalk to ManageWiki Change-Id: Idbcdaab5a77fe08747a6e6560fbb5cd90bd4197f
[20:32:57] <MacFan4000>	 .tell Zppix 14:03 <MacFan4000> Zppix: are you still having that notification issue?
[20:32:57] <ZppixBot>	 MacFan4000: I'll pass that on when Zppix is around.
[20:34:13] <JohnLewis>	 MacFan4000: he very likely will, unless you've done something?
[20:37:51] <MacFan4000>	 JohnLewis: well I have something I can try once I have access again
[20:41:50] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/mw-config] 07paladox pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/fjlwV
[20:41:51] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/mw-config] 07paladox 03c6c22c4 - Fix 'help' desc for wgMetaNamespace Change-Id: I4a299fccdab1965a8f0a3121211d0ef1732ba6ca
[20:43:36] <AmandaCath>	 Hey everyone
[20:43:45] <AmandaCath>	 (Yes I am back)
[20:45:15] <paladox>	 hi
[20:45:23] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/mw-config] 07paladox pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/fjlwK
[20:45:25] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/mw-config] 07paladox 03075309b - Add wgAllowUserCss and wgAllowUserJs to ManageWiki Change-Id: Id1d072bd2dfe08fff67d3976eec62592e985f104
[20:45:53] <AmandaCath>	 Hi paladox
[20:46:44] * AmandaCath notices that ManageWiki has a very different layout/appearance
[20:47:32] <paladox>	 ManageWiki has had a significant overhaul since you were last here.
[20:48:05] <Voidwalker>	 paladox, isn't user css/js the User:<username>/common.css pages?
[20:48:23] <paladox>	 uh, right. Thanks Voidwalker.
[20:48:37] <Voidwalker>	 no prob :P
[20:48:44] <AmandaCath>	 paladox: yeah, I'm trying to figure out how all these new buttons work :)
[20:49:01] <paladox>	 MWP is complete too
[20:49:22] <AmandaCath>	 That was complete before
[20:49:35] <paladox>	 it has more features
[20:49:40] <paladox>	 that make it feature complete
[20:49:43] <AmandaCath>	 Ah ok
[20:49:54] <AmandaCath>	 I'm still navigating my way through all of the new additional settings
[20:51:39] <AmandaCath>	 Hmm.. why is $wgAccountCreationThrottle restricted?
[20:52:59] <paladox>	 since it restricts how many accounts are created. Since it affects the whole wiki we've restricted it.
[20:53:27] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/mw-config] 07paladox pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/fjlw7
[20:53:28] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/mw-config] 07paladox 0363da459 - Fix 'help' desc for wgAllowUserCss and wgAllowUserJs Change-Id: I2e7bbdf3ca607d1539cd47102aea65e1c41b2135
[20:54:29] <AmandaCath>	 Hmm.. I thought that the only things that were restricted were those that either breach the privacy policy and/or would break something if misconfigured
[21:03:47] <AmandaCath>	 paladox: how come on Weather Wiki the member group exists in ListGroupRights but not in MWP, even though I had unset the group as my wiki is only private to anonymous users?
[21:05:00] <paladox>	 im not sure, quite likley your wiki was hit by a bug.
[21:05:27] <MacFan4000>	 !log DELETE FROM echo_unread_wikis WHERE euw_user = '9736'; (metawiki)
[21:05:31] <MirahezeLogbot>	 Logged the message at https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Tech:Server_admin_log, Master
[21:05:50] <MacFan4000>	 (9736 is zppix's global user id)
[21:06:15] <AmandaCath>	 Yeah, I just tried to delete the group in MWP, and it's not listed, although it is listed in ListGroupRights and UserRights
[21:06:43] <MacFan4000>	 .tell Zppix I've removed the notification server side, it should (hopefully) be gone now
[21:06:43] <ZppixBot>	 MacFan4000: I'll pass that on when Zppix is around.
[21:07:00] <paladox>	 AmandaCath we may have defined that some where then (since MWP would populate things).
[21:07:40] <AmandaCath>	 Would appreciate it if it could be looked into
[21:08:32] <MacFan4000>	 .tell Zppix DB side*
[21:08:33] <ZppixBot>	 MacFan4000: I'll pass that on when Zppix is around.
[21:10:46] <paladox>	 AmandaCath your wiki is private
[21:11:02] <paladox>	 we set that group on private wiki's
[21:11:11] <paladox>	 https://github.com/miraheze/mw-config/blob/cfe385cb3898c087170fff6274855c573259a01e/LocalWiki.php#L45
[21:11:11] <ZppixBot>	 [ mw-config/LocalWiki.php at cfe385cb3898c087170fff6274855c573259a01e · miraheze/mw-config · GitHub ] - github.com
[21:11:16] <AmandaCath>	 paladox: yes, but member is not required to access my wiki
[21:11:22] <AmandaCath>	 Only a user account is
[21:11:28] <paladox>	 but it's hard coded.
[21:11:56] <AmandaCath>	 Any way to exempt/unset it?
[21:12:13] <JohnLewis>	 that is my fault, we don't restrict "read" to any group but * so technically we don't need to set it
[21:16:21] <AmandaCath>	 Ok, I solved the member group issue by null-editing all the groups that could add it in MWP, but now I can't edit the banned users group
[21:16:56] <AmandaCath>	 (Only the founder should be able to add/remove bans, but for some reason, I can't anymore and I can't reset it in MWP as its not listed)
[21:19:12] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07JohnFLewis pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±3] 13https://git.io/fjlrR
[21:19:13] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07JohnFLewis 03c27a8b7 - remove duplicate values when modifying groups
[21:20:04] <JohnLewis>	 uh, that shouldn't be deployed, half contains new changes
[21:20:37] <paladox>	 someones hand was slippy on the push button? :P
[21:20:52] <JohnLewis>	 no, slippy on the git add command :)
[21:21:15] <JohnLewis>	 I did "git add helpers" forgetting I already added new stuff to the helpers
[21:21:45] <paladox>	 lol
[21:30:17] <Examknow>	 That sucks
[22:06:51] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07JohnFLewis pushed 031 commit to 03master [+1/-0/±4] 13https://git.io/fjlon
[22:06:52] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07JohnFLewis 03cbe2372 - allow additional NS configs
[22:15:12] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07JohnFLewis pushed 031 commit to 03master [+1/-0/±5] 13https://git.io/fjl6m
[22:15:14] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07JohnFLewis 03358f101 - allow additional NS configs
[22:16:46] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07JohnFLewis pushed 031 commit to 03master [+1/-0/±5] 13https://git.io/fjl63
[22:16:48] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07JohnFLewis 030a9906f - allow additional NS configs
[22:16:49] <travis-ci>	 miraheze/ManageWiki/master/358f101 - John Lewis The build was broken. https://travis-ci.org/miraheze/ManageWiki/builds/533042871
[22:18:01] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07JohnFLewis pushed 031 commit to 03master [+1/-0/±5] 13https://git.io/fjl6s
[22:18:02] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07JohnFLewis 033bfafaf - allow additional NS configs
[22:18:15] <JohnLewis>	 paladox: https://github.com/miraheze/ManageWiki/compare/0a9906fc69a0...3bfafaf30a19 review?
[22:18:15] <ZppixBot>	 [ Comparing 0a9906fc69a0...3bfafaf30a19 · miraheze/ManageWiki · GitHub ] - github.com
[22:18:21] <paladox>	 ok
[22:18:25] * paladox reviews
[22:18:56] <travis-ci>	 miraheze/ManageWiki/master/0a9906f - John Lewis The build has errored. https://travis-ci.org/miraheze/ManageWiki/builds/533043284
[22:19:18] <paladox>	 JohnLewis 
[22:19:24] <paladox>	 line 376
[22:19:30] <paladox>	 of MWFB
[22:19:32] <paladox>	 has  !ceMW
[22:19:38] <paladox>	 that should be  !$ceMW
[22:20:10] <paladox>	 other then that LGTM JohnLewis 
[22:20:18] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07JohnFLewis pushed 031 commit to 03master [+1/-0/±5] 13https://git.io/fjl6Z
[22:20:20] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07JohnFLewis 032fb15b0 - allow additional NS configs
[22:22:58] <JohnLewis>	 !log ALTER TABLE mw_namespaces ADD COLUMN ns_additional LONGTEXT AFTER ns_core;
[22:23:02] <MirahezeLogbot>	 Logged the message at https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Tech:Server_admin_log, Master
[22:25:27] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07JohnFLewis pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/fjl6R
[22:25:28] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07JohnFLewis 03f45df37 - add additional to MWI
[22:32:59] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07JohnFLewis pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/fjl6u
[22:33:00] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07JohnFLewis 03999e97d - granular control for MWNA
[22:49:28] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - test1 Puppet on test1 is WARNING: WARNING: Puppet is currently disabled, message: John, last run 3 minutes ago with 1 failures
[22:52:57] <JohnLewis>	 urg VisualEditor is so annoying
[22:53:18] <Examknow>	 I don't ever use it.
[22:53:18] <JohnLewis>	 everything except VE uses the format $var = [ array of NS IDs ]
[22:53:36] <JohnLewis>	 VE does $var = [ array of namespace names ]
[22:53:45] <Examknow>	 I think that VE makes it harder to edit rather than easier
[22:58:30] <AmandaCath>	 Just FYI for everyone https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Diff72783
[22:58:30] <ZppixBot>	 [ No such special page - Miraheze Meta ] - meta.miraheze.org
[22:58:38] <AmandaCath>	 oops
[22:59:03] <AmandaCath>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Diff/72783
[22:59:05] <ZppixBot>	 [ Difference between revisions of "Community noticeboard" - Miraheze Meta ] - meta.miraheze.org
[23:00:51] <JohnLewis>	 We've been aware for a while
[23:02:03] <AmandaCath>	 You saw the message I sent to mw mailing list I bet?
[23:06:40] <AmandaCath>	 Also JohnLewis any info on why I can't edit the banned group on my wiki and it doesn't exist in MWP where I could gif it? https://i.imgur.com/cU5PT6U.jpg https://i.imgur.com/BhgD5bv.jpg
[23:09:03] <JohnLewis>	 if it doesn't exist in MWP, it is only known to MWP through tge $wgManageWikiPermissionsAdditional* settings
[23:09:17] <JohnLewis>	 iirc, it just adds revoked rights right? in which case, it won't exist
[23:09:52] <AmandaCath>	 Yes, the banned group prevents users in the group from reading the wiki, including their own preferences page
[23:10:18] <AmandaCath>	 But even after MWP was deployed, I could still manage the members of the group through Special:UserRights
[23:10:22] <JohnLewis>	 you'd need to allow it to be added through LS.php
[23:10:49] <AmandaCath>	 Oh, I thought the point of MW was to move stuff out of LS
[23:11:10] <JohnLewis>	 indeed, but revoked rights aren't being added to MWP
[23:11:39] <AmandaCath>	 Why not?
[23:15:04] <JohnLewis>	 The benefits don’t outweigh the work both technical or UX wise
[23:15:26] <AmandaCath>	 Okay, though I'm not trying to modify the permissions that the group revokes. I'm trying to be able to ban/unban users through Special:UserRights which I was always able to do even when MWP version 1 was deployed
[23:15:51] <JohnLewis>	 But now, MWP only respects what it knows
[23:15:59] <JohnLewis>	 before it didn’t which was a security issue
[23:17:16] <JohnLewis>	 If you want to manage it through MWP, you’ll have to create it in MWP
[23:17:42] <AmandaCath>	 So MWP no longer knows $wgAddGroups['founder']['banned'] = true/false and $wgRemoveGroups ['founder']['banned'] = true/false simply because the banned group is all revocations?
[23:18:14] <JohnLewis>	 No, those variables are unused now completely
[23:18:43] <JohnLewis>	 They’re defined solely through MWP
[23:19:22] <AmandaCath>	 So, why can't the founder group add/remove the banned group in Special:UserRights?
[23:19:27] <AmandaCath>	 That's my ultimate question
[23:19:54] <AmandaCath>	 and I can't set it to allow such in MWP because banned isn't one of the options in the group assignments tab
[23:20:00] <JohnLewis>	 Because banned isn’t known to MWP and therefore not configurable through MWP
[23:20:56] <AmandaCath>	 Ok, but why wasn't the ability to simply add/remove it in UserRights (not actually change the group permissions) retained?
[23:21:40] <JohnLewis>	 it is, if it's done through LS
[23:21:50] <JohnLewis>	 via $wgManageWikiPermissionsAdditional*
[23:22:39] <AmandaCath>	 So you're saying that I need to define the banned group in LS, and then allow the founder group to add/remove the banned group in UserRights by modifying MWP?
[23:23:05] <JohnLewis>	 no, you need to define who can add or remove the group through LS
[23:23:24] <AmandaCath>	 Oh
[23:23:30] <AmandaCath>	 Ok
[23:24:12] <AmandaCath>	 BTW JohnLewis I like your pun in the phab blog post regarding the expansion of MWP where you talked about "permission" to stop :)
[23:25:36] <JohnLewis>	 :P
[23:27:44] <JohnLewis>	 ManageWikiNamespaces is pretty much going to be a completed featured in a couple of minutes (maybe)
[23:35:13] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07JohnFLewis pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±3] 13https://git.io/fjliI
[23:35:15] <Not-7290>	 [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07JohnFLewis 03a8360a2 - fixes to MWNA
[23:38:39] <AmandaCath>	 Hm.. GitHub seems to be down ATM
[23:39:09] <AmandaCath>	 all repos are saying "cannot retrieve latest commit at this time" and it won't let me make a PR
[23:52:08] <AmandaCath>	 Anyway
[23:52:12] <AmandaCath>	 !night
[23:52:12] <wm-bot5>	 Good night, sweet dreams and dream of the miraheze servers without errors!