[00:13:53] It's just kidding, it's that I'm uploading 820 files to my wiki with MsUpload [00:14:43] hi GOTILON [00:16:58] Hi Wiki [00:17:10] What's new? [00:20:53] GOTILON todo bien, ¿como te ha ido a ti? :) [00:23:25] Pues.....algo deprimido [00:23:49] Vivo en Venezuela y esto de la reconversión monetaria ha sido un ultimátum a mi moral [00:47:28] @gotilon sounds like you might wanna give yourself the bot flag next time :p [00:47:33] but its not a big deal [00:49:03] At the moment I'm only in my wiki, so, ñe [00:49:06] But, thanks [00:50:29] Hi [00:50:34] Hello there. [00:54:34] * BurningPrincess likes the new settings in managewiki [00:56:03] Really likes the new settings in ManageWiki [06:14:51] [02miraheze/mw-config] 07Reception123 pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/fAtYD [06:14:52] [02miraheze/mw-config] 07Reception123 032bdde82 - bsaikatsuwiki file extensions per T3513 resolves T3513 [06:40:13] [02miraheze/services] 07MirahezeSSLBot pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/fAtOo [06:40:15] [02miraheze/services] 07MirahezeSSLBot 037330feb - BOT: Updating services config for wikis [10:29:59] [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07JohnFLewis pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/fAtuy [10:30:00] [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07JohnFLewis 039dedb4e - reduce calls to getSettingsValue && compare again overridedefault if null [10:31:43] Reception123: ^ no more massive lists of things getting changed when you haven't actually touched it [10:31:57] (and a more efficient code set) [10:33:08] JohnLewis: wow thanks :D [10:33:43] and I've only been back 20 minutes :P [10:33:56] Lol [10:46:20] [02miraheze/mediawiki] 07paladox pushed 031 commit to 03REL1_31 [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/fAtz1 [10:46:21] [02miraheze/mediawiki] 07paladox 03865cc94 - Update ManageWiki [10:46:33] JohnLewis ^^ [10:46:50] k [10:49:09] JohnLewis you should do the same change to ManageWikiExtension :) [10:49:25] an ext is either enabled or disabled [10:50:36] ok [10:52:39] though I might try and see if I can optimise the code a bit more at some point [10:52:59] JohnLewis: yayy :) [11:03:51] !log renamed ourjokewiki to unpediawiki (in CW_WIKIS, CentralAuth, db and static) [11:03:54] Logged the message at https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Tech:Server_admin_log, Master [11:59:54] [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07JohnFLewis pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±2] 13https://git.io/fAtrp [11:59:56] [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07JohnFLewis 03b11414e - Group permissions base work, remove all existing config is enabled [12:05:30] [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07JohnFLewis pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/fAtol [12:05:32] [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07JohnFLewis 03c05fe14 - add new columns to mw_permissions - addgroups,removegroups [13:43:19] [02mw-config] 07Wiki1776 synchronize pull request 03#2392: add website on wgAllowExternalImagesFrom for astrobiologywiki and doomsdaydebunkedwiki per T3504 + adiction of Wiki1776wiki - 13https://git.io/fALPr [13:46:59] paladox: done [13:47:55] [02miraheze/mw-config] 07paladox pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/fAtyg [13:47:57] [02miraheze/mw-config] 07Wiki1776 03987c4d8 - add website on wgAllowExternalImagesFrom for astrobiologywiki and doomsdaydebunkedwiki per T3504 + adiction of Wiki1776wiki (#2392) * add website on wgAllowExternalImagesFrom for astrobiologywiki and doomsdaydebunkedwiki per T3504 * Update LocalSettings.php * fix per Paladox [13:47:58] [02mw-config] 07paladox closed pull request 03#2392: add website on wgAllowExternalImagesFrom for astrobiologywiki and doomsdaydebunkedwiki per T3504 + adiction of Wiki1776wiki - 13https://git.io/fALPr [15:08:52] [02miraheze/mediawiki] 07paladox pushed 031 commit to 03REL1_31 [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/fAtb1 [15:08:54] [02miraheze/mediawiki] 07paladox 03968519a - Update ManageWiki [15:08:55] JohnLewis ^^ [15:15:17] No reason to be cool [15:16:13] JohnLewis huh what do you mean by "cool" [15:16:14] ? [15:17:43] *but cook [15:17:52] cool [15:45:15] [02miraheze/services] 07MirahezeSSLBot pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/fAtpy [15:45:16] [02miraheze/services] 07MirahezeSSLBot 03103355b - BOT: Updating services config for wikis [15:46:57] hmm, not sure if wgAllowExternalImage is working. I did different tests and I haven't been able to get it to work. Could it be that I'm missing something? [16:29:32] Hm. If needed we can evidently ask freenode staff to make sigyn ignore voiced users in this channel [16:35:59] PuppyKun: why voices? [16:36:10] *voiced [16:36:41] hello PuppyKun paladox [16:36:54] I dont know if it would actually happen but someone mentioned concerns about notifico or similar getting banned by sigyn. We could avoid notifico and icings getting banned by asking staff:p [16:37:10] Otherwise opers would have to tell sigyn to undo the kline and we only have 15 minutes to do so [16:37:25] Wiki-1776: hi [16:43:27] Hello [16:43:33] hi AmandaCatherine [16:44:41] Does anyone else sense something fishy here? https://knowledgebox.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges [16:44:42] Title: [ Recent changes - Knowledge Box ] - knowledgebox.miraheze.org [16:44:53] Mass creation of blank pages, handing out bureaucrat rights without vetting [16:44:59] Mass protection of pages for no reason [16:45:07] It just seems a bit strange [16:45:42] What's fishy? [16:45:49] Oh [16:45:56] I mean there's nothing against that [16:46:03] True, but it seems unusual [16:46:11] is solution? [16:46:15] Reception123: ¿me lees? [16:46:23] I guess it could seem so, but there's nothing actually going on there [16:46:55] Exactly, that’s why its strange to me. Why would anyone blindly hand out bureaucrat rights to anyone who joins the wiki? [16:47:07] Now I could go and mess with things if I wanted to (not that I would) [16:47:14] And the founder doesn’t even know me [16:47:18] Wiki-1776: cuando? [16:47:35] AmandaCatherine: I don't know, it might be weird, but it's not disallowed [16:47:48] people can do whatever they want on their wikis as long as it's not against policies and it's not spam, etc. [16:47:49] Meh [16:48:06] I just have a hunch that they’re asking for spam etc by doing what they’re doing [16:48:33] If there's spam, it can be dealt with [16:48:44] what do you propose be done now? [16:48:59] Just keep an eye on it [16:49:39] They also claim their mission is to “get Wikipedia shut down for good”, which, although likely a hyperbole, also raises a small flag [16:49:58] uh [16:50:09] I need to remember how to fetch a PR branch [16:50:50] Reception123: nada, mi conexión está fallando en ratos y creí que no se pudo mandar un mensaje pero acabo de ver que aparece en BotBot y Wmbot [16:50:52] .patch after the PR url was the magic [16:52:05] * revi cries https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/xN7aO595/log.txt [16:52:06] Title: [ Snippet | IRCCloud ] - www.irccloud.com [16:52:44] Wiki-1776: ok [16:53:12] "Knowledge Box is meant to take the mickie of Wikipedia, you see. I absolutely despise that wiki site, and I'm willing to do whatever it takes to get Wikipedia shut down for good, and make Knowledge Box the most reliable wiki site, the most popular and the best wiki site for everybody to get their knowledge from." good luck :P [16:53:26] Yeah [16:53:31] they are absolutely free to do what they want though [16:53:51] The way I see it, they feel like on a wiki everyone should be able to have advanced permissions (like crat) [16:53:52] looks like git doesn't like .patch files [16:54:02] revi: yeah, don't think it does [16:54:15] and irony is that git itself uses .patch for all the patches [16:54:16] and the kernel [16:54:17] LOL [16:54:20] Reception123: maybe so, but then you run the serious risk of someone messing up the site [16:54:25] c'mon git... [16:54:38] Like I said, I could just go int o ManageWiki and screw stuff up (not that I would) [16:54:42] revi: haha, that's probably the reason it doesn't like when you introduce a .patch file [16:54:54] AmandaCatherine: yeah, but that's their problem [16:55:07] if something happens, CVT can take action if necessary [16:55:26] Does CVT have global access to userrights and ManageWiki? [16:55:35] No, I mean in terms of reverting spam [16:55:45] the things you refer to can be dealt with by Stewards [16:55:48] wth https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/3lIfDYl3/log.txt [16:55:48] Title: [ Snippet | IRCCloud ] - www.irccloud.com [16:55:59] Oh yeah, I’d be more concerned about rouge admins/crats than I would be about spam [16:56:02] nothing to commit, working tree clean > git am --continue > No changes - did you forget to use 'git add'? [16:56:04] h u h [16:56:09] revi: don't ask me, you know I've had my own issues with git :P [16:56:22] AmandaCatherine: well you are free to warn them about the issues, but I think they do know the risks [16:56:24] I know yeah [16:56:30] just meh'ing as usual [16:56:34] maybe JohnLewis knows [16:56:43] Git doesn't hate him as much as other users :P [16:56:58] Git check refs/pull/? [16:57:01] *pulls [16:57:04] oh yeah [16:57:06] that one [16:57:08] I needed it [16:57:12] !m paladox [16:57:12] <[d__d]> You're doing good work, paladox! [16:57:13] oh yeah, I forgot about our other expert, paladox xD [16:57:22] Lol [16:57:24] That pastbin suggests you have unpushed commits [16:57:26] except I just purged the whole repo [16:57:27] Revi thanks! [16:57:33] pastebin* [16:57:50] commit being ahead of MASTER does not matter [16:57:56] we're not in the SVN world! [16:58:30] ^ paladox [16:58:39] (I meant this to MacFan4000 ) [16:58:50] Reception123: ^ [16:59:30] ah, k [17:01:02] lol git pls /me digs help.github https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/9JU5VNpY/log.txt [17:01:03] Title: [ Snippet | IRCCloud ] - www.irccloud.com [17:01:33] Revi if you edit config under .git [17:01:41] Change refs/heads to refs/ [17:01:44] Then git pull [17:01:50] You can git check the refs pull [17:02:20] OK [17:02:25] I just realized I was doing it stupid way [17:02:48] I could just fetch from the PR OP's branch [17:03:05] revi or you could clone your fork [17:03:09] And checkout the branch [17:03:13] Created by the pull [17:03:58] just did it this way https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/TalI0l7j/log.txt [17:03:59] Title: [ Snippet | IRCCloud ] - www.irccloud.com [17:04:38] this was the method I've been using while I had commit access, iirc this method is in github but for those who haz WRITE access [17:04:44] so I forgot the command, and now epic fail [17:13:59] Heh [17:19:20] [Correction] hmm, not sure if wgAllowExternalImagesFrom is working. I did different tests and I haven't been able to get it to work. Could it be that I'm missing something? [17:40:38] JohnLewis: Reception123 ^^ [17:40:43] Added staff to the topic [17:40:59] paladox: meh, do we really need that? [17:41:08] having a too packed topic makes people not read it [17:41:26] Reception123: hmm, not sure though feel free to remove it [17:41:51] don't think it's required now [18:09:24] If anything that’s probs the best way to do it [18:18:51] why do we need to say who is voiced? [18:19:08] plus the only voiced person is a bot rn so it's inaccurate [18:20:08] No we are voiced and opped [18:20:43] And that’s temp [18:21:03] but it's inaccurate right now and again, why is it relevant to say who is voiced? [18:21:14] it's never really been an issue before? [18:21:25] Meh [18:26:33] I hoped that the spam died out, but it seemingly has not. [18:26:56] It definitely has died down since it started [18:29:39] Also I agree with MacFan4000 and the topic... although I would consider it to be “saying who to contact for help” rather than “saying who is voiced” [18:29:44] This way users know to contact any voiced user for help [18:30:02] But I also agree with JohnLewis that while the channel is muted and normally voiced users are oped, we should leave that out [18:36:09] it's much better to encourage people to ask for help in here rather than ask specific people [18:36:59] But if a user needs help specifically from a staff member... [18:37:05] Shouldn’t they know who the staff members are? [18:37:21] s/Shouldn’t they know/Shouldn’t they be able to know [18:37:21] AmandaCatherine meant to say: Shouldn’t they be able to know who the staff members are? [18:37:38] they can imply it from voiced I guess but everyone can help with a lot [18:38:05] Not everyone will imply that voiced = staf [18:38:16] s/voiced = staf/voiced = staff [18:38:16] AmandaCatherine meant to say: Not everyone will imply that voiced = staff [18:38:31] And I know that others can help, but some things may require a staff member specifically (steward/sysadmin/etc) [18:48:54] though as well tbh, if its requires sysadmin we'd want it on phab and if its needs a steward, on wiki [18:49:25] Meh [18:49:28] (and that's what we'd tell people asking us, unless its a question then anyone in here can answer) or unless it sensitive in which case, email is always the best [18:54:02] Hello JohnLewis :) [18:54:18] hi [19:03:09] What happened to the toolbar box at the bottom of Special:Contributions on Meta? [19:04:30] What painting? [19:04:46] Wiki-1776: painting??? [19:06:43] AmandaCatherine: toolbar box [19:07:35] Well, I don't see anything missing. [19:18:24] There used to be a box that contained links to CentralAuth and other tools at the bottom of Special:Contributions [19:22:35] JohnLewis: did Miraheze upgrade MediaWiki? [19:22:46] Because there are several changes in userrights that I didn’t authorize [19:22:57] It looks like upstream changed things around [19:23:02] AmandaCatherine: yes [19:23:05] Mw 1.31 [19:23:16] paladox: haven’t we always been using that for the past month? [19:23:25] Yep [19:23:34] Since June I think [19:23:46] So why just today are their userrights changes that I never made? [19:24:09] Uh could it be the change JohnLewis did to ManageWiki? [19:24:17] (i.e. confirmed users have the ability to create newsletters, autoconfirmed is required to create new user accounts) [19:25:02] paladox: my change does nothing [19:25:11] all it does is blank the whole array [19:25:14] Ok [19:25:14] JohnLewis: go to ListGroupRights on Weather Wiki [19:25:19] Tell me if you see what I see [19:25:28] Confirmed users have the “newsletter-create” right [19:25:35] And autoconfirmed users have “createaccount” right [19:26:50] that looks rather weird [19:27:11] but I'm busy so paladox please look but it's 100% unrelated to my change because my change can not add user rights [19:27:12] Do you see that too, or is it just me [19:27:50] JohnLewis: Ok, I’m mobile only. [19:27:58] urg, Reception123 ^ ? [19:28:17] I can just get rid of them in LocalWiki [19:28:18] AmandaCatherine: could you tell me specifically what is wrong on that page. [19:29:14] paladox: the “confirmed users” group has the “newsletter-create” right (shouldn’t) and new user account creation is restricted to autoconfirmed users (shouldn’t be) [19:29:23] Ok [19:29:55] could have been caused by a conflict at GitHub? [19:30:55] AmandaCatherine: did that weirdness start today? [19:31:00] Yes [19:31:03] (Would help with tracking it down) [19:31:04] Thanks [19:32:57] [02mw-config] 07Amanda-Catherine opened pull request 03#2393: Fix strange userrights on weatherwiki - 13https://git.io/fAqcc [19:33:03] I see absolutely no possible reason hiw newletter-create can be assigned to confirmed [19:33:14] That PR should fix it [19:33:21] wait no [19:33:26] it's assigned in LocalExtension [19:33:36] ??? [19:34:04] I'm mobile too [19:34:35] createaccount is assigned to autoconfirmed by default [19:34:38] Oh, found it [19:34:43] Who the heck added this https://github.com/miraheze/mw-config/blob/master/LocalExtensions.php#L433 [19:34:43] Title: [ mw-config/LocalExtensions.php at master · miraheze/mw-config · GitHub ] - github.com [19:34:43] * paladox *looks* at Reception123 :D [19:34:57] AmandaCatherine blob is your friend [19:35:01] *blame [19:35:11] both your issues aren't issues [19:35:16] LP can’t commit to git hub [19:35:25] And confirmed could never create newsletters before [19:35:30] Someone added that and it’s not good [19:35:39] Too much technical talk [19:35:47] [02mw-config] 07Amanda-Catherine commented on pull request 03#2393: Fix strange userrights on weatherwiki - 13https://git.io/fAqcE [19:35:49] [02mw-config] 07Amanda-Catherine closed pull request 03#2393: Fix strange userrights on weatherwiki - 13https://git.io/fAqcc [19:36:09] It was JohnLewis :D [19:36:10] https://github.com/miraheze/mw-config/commit/b6c13825f94d0dc50815f56d6adad65f76cd0a39 [19:36:11] Title: [ assign newsletter-create to confirmed · miraheze/mw-config@b6c1382 · GitHub ] - github.com [19:36:21] JohnLewis: why the heck did you do that? [19:36:29] So it was added for a good reason [19:36:36] No it wasn’t [19:36:49] Newsletters shouldn’t be able to be created by any random confirmed user [19:36:51] When John commits a commit it is [19:36:59] I have no idea now, but there was a reason back then. [19:37:14] It’s very recent, because when I enabled newsletter extension, it wasn;t like that [19:37:20] I think it might have been Quim asked and previously the ext was only for his use [19:37:30] the change has been in place for over 2 years [19:37:43] So why did it not show up when I first added the extension to my wiki? [19:37:57] it must have [19:38:05] there's no reason for it randomly doing it [19:38:06] It definitely did not [19:38:23] Newsletter creation and access is restricted to mass message senders and sysops [19:38:53] feel free to open a PR to remove it [19:39:15] but 2 years ago there was a reason [19:39:45] actually nvm, I'll do it with some other changes I'm doing [19:39:45] [02mw-config] 07Amanda-Catherine opened pull request 03#2394: Remove newsletter-create from confirmed - 13https://git.io/fAqc7 [19:40:01] [02mw-config] 07JohnFLewis closed pull request 03#2394: Remove newsletter-create from confirmed - 13https://git.io/fAqc7 [19:40:03] [02miraheze/mw-config] 07JohnFLewis pushed 032 commits to 03master [+0/-0/±2] 13https://git.io/fAqcd [19:40:04] [02miraheze/mw-config] 07Amanda-Catherine 030033e67 - Remove newsletter-create from confirmed Newsletters should be restricted to approved users - no random confirmed user should be able to manage newsletters [19:40:06] [02miraheze/mw-config] 07JohnFLewis 03a58b5c0 - Merge pull request #2394 from Amanda-Catherine/patch-2 Remove newsletter-create from confirmed [19:41:19] [02miraheze/mw-config] 07JohnFLewis pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/fAqcA [19:41:20] [02miraheze/mw-config] 07JohnFLewis 03c78eed4 - remove abuse team on metawiki [19:41:48] Good if we don’t need that anymore [19:45:57] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Requests_for_Stewardship#CnocBride.27s_Request_for_Stewardship [19:45:58] Title: [ Requests for Stewardship - Miraheze Meta ] - meta.miraheze.org [19:48:21] I just noticed that [20:46:03] .help [20:46:05] I've posted a list of my commands at https://ptpb.pw/ydoz - You can see more info about any of these commands by doing .help (e.g. .help time) [20:47:26] .ip 0.0.0.0.0 [20:47:26] [IP/Host Lookup] Unable to resolve IP/Hostname [20:47:39] .miraheze [20:47:39] Wiki-1776: Miraheze is a non-profit wikifarm running MediaWiki. If you would like more information please see https://meta.miraheze.org/ or ask in this channel. [20:48:03] .ping [20:48:03] Pong! [20:48:23] .translate Hola [20:48:24] Wiki-1776: "Hello" (es to en, translate.google.com) [20:48:54] .translate Trabajo [20:48:54] Wiki-1776: "Job" (es to en, translate.google.com) [20:50:05] Zppix Hey, are you there? [20:50:31] .seen Zppix [20:50:31] Wiki-1776: I last saw Zppix at 2018-08-20 - 00:29:41 in here, saying Wiki-1776: does it go away after refreshing [20:51:00] :/ [21:10:53] 4:25:35 PM failed to login to NDKilla. There have been 2 failed login attempts since your last successful login. [21:10:54] gg ez [21:10:56] hacked [23:30:20] [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07JohnFLewis pushed 031 commit to 03master [+1/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/fAqrE [23:30:22] [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07JohnFLewis 032119935 - add populateGroupPermissions.php and basic blacklist/additional config structure [23:30:46] and progress is progress :P [23:36:33] JohnLewis: where is blacklist ment to be used by? [23:36:45] Seems like you defined it but it is not used [23:37:27] it is? [23:38:00] $blacklist is used 3 times [23:38:35] Oh crap I misread the code [23:38:37] Nvm heh