[00:02:40] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - mw2 Puppet on mw2 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL: Catalog fetch fail. Either compilation failed or puppetmaster has issues  
[00:02:42] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - cp4 Puppet on cp4 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL: Catalog fetch fail. Either compilation failed or puppetmaster has issues  
[00:03:08] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - misc2 Puppet on misc2 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL: Catalog fetch fail. Either compilation failed or puppetmaster has issues  
[00:03:16] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - mw3 Puppet on mw3 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL: Catalog fetch fail. Either compilation failed or puppetmaster has issues  
[00:03:20] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - lizardfs2 Puppet on lizardfs2 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL: Catalog fetch fail. Either compilation failed or puppetmaster has issues  
[00:03:30] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - puppet1 Puppet on puppet1 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL: Catalog fetch fail. Either compilation failed or puppetmaster has issues  
[00:03:48] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - misc4 Puppet on misc4 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL: Catalog fetch fail. Either compilation failed or puppetmaster has issues  
[00:04:00] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - test1 Puppet on test1 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL: Catalog fetch fail. Either compilation failed or puppetmaster has issues  
[00:04:08] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - cp2 Puppet on cp2 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL: Catalog fetch fail. Either compilation failed or puppetmaster has issues  
[00:04:18] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - misc1 Puppet on misc1 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL: Catalog fetch fail. Either compilation failed or puppetmaster has issues  
[00:04:20] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - mw1 Puppet on mw1 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL: Catalog fetch fail. Either compilation failed or puppetmaster has issues  
[00:04:22] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - cp5 Puppet on cp5 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL: Catalog fetch fail. Either compilation failed or puppetmaster has issues  
[00:11:08] <icinga-miraheze>	 RECOVERY - misc2 Puppet on misc2 is OK: OK: Puppet is currently enabled, last run 15 seconds ago with 0 failures  
[00:11:16] <icinga-miraheze>	 RECOVERY - mw3 Puppet on mw3 is OK: OK: Puppet is currently enabled, last run 8 seconds ago with 0 failures  
[00:11:20] <icinga-miraheze>	 RECOVERY - lizardfs2 Puppet on lizardfs2 is OK: OK: Puppet is currently enabled, last run 18 seconds ago with 0 failures  
[00:11:30] <icinga-miraheze>	 RECOVERY - puppet1 Puppet on puppet1 is OK: OK: Puppet is currently enabled, last run 20 seconds ago with 0 failures  
[00:11:48] <icinga-miraheze>	 RECOVERY - misc4 Puppet on misc4 is OK: OK: Puppet is currently enabled, last run 12 seconds ago with 0 failures  
[00:12:00] <icinga-miraheze>	 RECOVERY - test1 Puppet on test1 is OK: OK: Puppet is currently enabled, last run 21 seconds ago with 0 failures  
[00:12:08] <icinga-miraheze>	 RECOVERY - cp2 Puppet on cp2 is OK: OK: Puppet is currently enabled, last run 37 seconds ago with 0 failures  
[00:12:18] <icinga-miraheze>	 RECOVERY - mw1 Puppet on mw1 is OK: OK: Puppet is currently enabled, last run 1 minute ago with 0 failures  
[00:12:40] <icinga-miraheze>	 RECOVERY - cp4 Puppet on cp4 is OK: OK: Puppet is currently enabled, last run 1 minute ago with 0 failures  
[00:14:18] <icinga-miraheze>	 RECOVERY - misc1 Puppet on misc1 is OK: OK: Puppet is currently enabled, last run 1 minute ago with 0 failures  
[00:14:20] <icinga-miraheze>	 RECOVERY - cp5 Puppet on cp5 is OK: OK: Puppet is currently enabled, last run 1 minute ago with 0 failures  
[04:17:43] <icinga-miraheze>	 RECOVERY - mw3 JobQueue on mw3 is OK: JOBQUEUE OK - job queue below 300 jobs  
[06:25:12] <Not>	 [02miraheze/CreateWiki] 07translatewiki pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±2] 13https://git.io/fAIzL
[06:25:14] <Not>	 [02miraheze/CreateWiki] 07translatewiki 0348713fa - Localisation updates from https://translatewiki.net.
[06:25:15] <Not>	 [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07translatewiki pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±4] 13https://git.io/fAIzt
[06:25:17] <Not>	 [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07translatewiki 03a2e4694 - Localisation updates from https://translatewiki.net.
[06:47:04] <Not>	 [02miraheze/mediawiki] 07Reception123 pushed 031 commit to 03REL1_31 [+0/-0/±3] 13https://git.io/fAIgf
[06:47:05] <Not>	 [02miraheze/mediawiki] 07Reception123 038492d09 - Update CW, MW, WD
[06:47:59] <Reception123>	 !log sudo -u www-data php rebuildLocalisationCache.php --wiki test1wiki on mw*
[06:48:03] <MirahezeLogbot>	 Logged the message at https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Tech:Server_admin_log, Master
[06:56:29] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - test1 Current Load on test1 is WARNING: WARNING - load average: 1.87, 1.54, 0.84  
[06:58:29] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - test1 Current Load on test1 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL - load average: 2.19, 1.78, 1.01  
[07:00:12] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - test1 Puppet on test1 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL: Puppet has 1 failures. Last run 3 minutes ago with 1 failures. Failed resources (up to 3 shown): Exec[git_pull_MediaWiki core]  
[07:02:10] <icinga-miraheze>	 RECOVERY - test1 Puppet on test1 is OK: OK: Puppet is currently enabled, last run 9 seconds ago with 0 failures  
[07:02:30] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - test1 Current Load on test1 is WARNING: WARNING - load average: 1.66, 1.81, 1.19  
[07:04:30] <icinga-miraheze>	 RECOVERY - test1 Current Load on test1 is OK: OK - load average: 1.28, 1.61, 1.19  
[13:29:45] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - mw3 JobQueue on mw3 is CRITICAL: JOBQUEUE CRITICAL - job queue greater than 300 jobs. Current queue: 6090  
[13:31:26] <Not>	 [02mw-config] 07Amanda-Catherine commented on pull request 03#2388: ProtectSite configuration for weatherwiki - 13https://git.io/fALeL
[13:34:03] <AmandaCatherine>	 Good morning
[13:35:59] <JohnLewis>	 Morning
[13:36:23] <AmandaCatherine>	 Oh great, we just lost botbot again
[13:37:20] <Not>	 [02mw-config] 07JohnFLewis closed pull request 03#2388: ProtectSite configuration for weatherwiki - 13https://git.io/fAk14
[13:37:22] <Not>	 [02miraheze/mw-config] 07JohnFLewis pushed 032 commits to 03master [+0/-0/±2] 13https://git.io/fALeN
[13:37:23] <Not>	 [02miraheze/mw-config] 07Amanda-Catherine 036f026a4 - ProtectSite configuration for weatherwiki
[13:37:25] <Not>	 [02miraheze/mw-config] 07JohnFLewis 03ba07b3b - Merge pull request #2388 from Amanda-Catherine/patch-1 ProtectSite configuration for weatherwiki
[13:37:37] <Not>	 [02mw-config] 07JohnFLewis closed pull request 03#2389: Remove ProtectSite from bureaucrats on weatherwiki - 13https://git.io/fAk1g
[13:37:38] <Not>	 [02miraheze/mw-config] 07JohnFLewis pushed 032 commits to 03master [+0/-0/±2] 13https://git.io/fALeA
[13:37:40] <AmandaCatherine>	 JohnLewis: I thought you said you den
[13:37:40] <Not>	 [02miraheze/mw-config] 07Amanda-Catherine 03de7c4fc - Remove ProtectSite from bureaucrats on weatherwiki
[13:37:41] <Not>	 [02miraheze/mw-config] 07JohnFLewis 03d67f0ac - Merge pull request #2389 from Amanda-Catherine/patch-2 Remove ProtectSite from bureaucrats on weatherwiki
[13:37:53] <AmandaCatherine>	 JohnLewis: I thought you said you didn’t have access this week
[13:38:21] <JohnLewis>	 I don’t
[13:38:44] <AmandaCatherine>	 So how did you merge a PR without access?
[13:39:04] <JohnLewis>	 Because it’s the web
[13:39:25] <AmandaCatherine>	 Oh, you meant you don’t have backend/CL access
[13:39:34] <AmandaCatherine>	 I thought you meant you didn’t have access to your account(s)
[13:39:40] <paladox>	 He is mobile 
[13:39:43] <paladox>	 Or tablet
[13:39:45] <paladox>	 I think
[13:39:57] <JohnLewis>	 Mobile
[13:40:10] <JohnLewis>	 my 2fa is my phone so sorted
[13:41:33] <AmandaCatherine>	 Ah
[13:42:39] <AmandaCatherine>	 That oath of office account really makes me chuckle
[13:42:55] <AmandaCatherine>	 I didn’t even know usernames could be that long
[13:43:14] <paladox>	 AmandaCatherine: thst also is making be lol
[13:43:19] <paladox>	 Be = me
[14:19:45] <MacFan4000>	 By default usernames can contain up to 255 chars
[15:47:44] <icinga-miraheze>	 RECOVERY - mw3 JobQueue on mw3 is OK: JOBQUEUE OK - job queue below 300 jobs  
[16:16:57] <AmandaCatherine>	 Hm.. there was a database error yesterday?
[16:16:59] <AmandaCatherine>	 Wasn’t aware of that
[16:18:26] <Reception123>	 AmandaCatherine: Not a database error, human error
[16:18:34] <Reception123>	 I accidentally pasted some grants 
[16:18:45] <Reception123>	 It was not a database error per se, but it affected the database
[16:18:50] <Reception123>	 I just had no idea what else to call the incident report
[16:19:15] <AmandaCatherine>	 Well, anything that causes wikis to go down is a de facto database error IMHO
[16:19:25] <AmandaCatherine>	 Because wikis rely on the database to function properly
[16:19:41] <Reception123>	 yes, but you can't call it a "database error" because the database had no error, it was 100% human error
[16:20:06] <AmandaCatherine>	 But human error can cause a database error/problem
[16:21:45] <Reception123>	 I guess if you put it that way, but personally I wouldn't refer to it as a database error
[16:22:12] <AmandaCatherine>	 On a different topic, invalid wiki request? https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/5667
[16:22:12] <ZppixBot>	 Title: [ Wiki requests queue - Miraheze Meta ] - meta.miraheze.org
[16:22:51] <AmandaCatherine>	 Also maybe this one https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/5663
[16:22:52] <ZppixBot>	 Title: [ Wiki requests queue - Miraheze Meta ] - meta.miraheze.org
[16:23:12] <Reception123>	 AmandaCatherine: nope, invalid description
[16:23:18] <AmandaCatherine>	 ...and this one https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/5664
[16:23:19] <ZppixBot>	 Title: [ Wiki requests queue - Miraheze Meta ] - meta.miraheze.org
[16:23:22] <AmandaCatherine>	 Yeesh
[16:25:38] <AmandaCatherine>	 Reception123: is the request for “A Test Wiki” also invalid?
[16:27:02] <Reception123>	 AmandaCatherine: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Requestdenytesting
[16:27:02] <ZppixBot>	 Title: [ Template:Requestdenytesting - Miraheze Meta ] - meta.miraheze.org
[16:27:21] <AmandaCatherine>	 Ok
[16:28:28] <AmandaCatherine>	 I notified the users, I think that a WC needs to officially decline the requests
[17:47:44] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - mw3 JobQueue on mw3 is CRITICAL: JOBQUEUE CRITICAL - job queue greater than 300 jobs. Current queue: 6017  
[17:48:47] <AmandaCatherine>	 Hmm....
[17:48:58] <AmandaCatherine>	 Not sure what to make of this https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/The_Screamer https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/5668
[17:49:00] <ZppixBot>	 Title: [ Global account information for The Screamer - Miraheze Meta ] - meta.miraheze.org
[17:49:01] <ZppixBot>	 Title: [ Wiki requests queue - Miraheze Meta ] - meta.miraheze.org
[17:49:13] <JohnLewis>	 Genuinely not an issue (sorta I guess)
[17:49:21] <AmandaCatherine>	 It just seems weird
[17:49:34] <JohnLewis>	 Oh that
[17:49:57] <AmandaCatherine>	 You thought I was talking about the icinga message?
[17:50:39] <JohnLewis>	 Yeah 
[17:51:07] <AmandaCatherine>	 I don’t know about that account and wiki request... seems strange, but it’s not outright vandalism
[17:54:32] <AmandaCatherine>	 If I want to assume good faith, I would approve it but keep a close eye on it to make sure it doesn’t turn into anything like bullying/harassment
[17:54:47] <AmandaCatherine>	 I mean, it could just be in humor
[17:56:36] <AmandaCatherine>	 JohnLewis what would you say?
[17:58:33] <Not>	 [02mw-config] 07Wiki1776 opened pull request 03#2390: enable wgPFEnableStringFunctions on rakudaikishiwiki per T3511 - 13https://git.io/fALuX
[17:59:09] <Not>	 [02miraheze/mw-config] 07paladox pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/fALuM
[17:59:11] <Not>	 [02miraheze/mw-config] 07Wiki1776 03409926b - enable wgPFEnableStringFunctions on rakudaikishiwiki per T3511 (#2390)
[17:59:12] <Not>	 [02mw-config] 07paladox closed pull request 03#2390: enable wgPFEnableStringFunctions on rakudaikishiwiki per T3511 - 13https://git.io/fALuX
[17:59:40] <AmandaCatherine>	 Why doesn’t the bot have a code suffix on its nick anymore?
[18:02:00] <MacFan4000>	 It has a different nick every time it rejoins. It always begins with Not. We can’t control the nick
[18:02:43] <ZppixBot>	 Hi! Just contacting you to tell that here are no high priority open tasks. Nice job!
[18:03:08] <MacFan4000>	 Thanks ZppixBot
[18:03:08] <ZppixBot>	 You're welcome MacFan4000
[18:03:13] <AmandaCatherine>	 That’s... uh... fairly obvious
[18:03:30] <AmandaCatherine>	 Anyone can check the Maniphest query and see that there’s no high priority tasks
[18:03:56] <MacFan4000>	 .priotasks
[18:03:57] <ZppixBot>	 MacFan4000: There are no high priority open tasks. Nice job!
[18:15:11] <JohnLewis>	 It’s fun bugging about high prio tasks if/when we have any
[18:20:09] <Reception123>	 JohnLewis: I usually did that, so I thought I'd get a slave to do it for me automatically
[18:20:18] <Reception123>	 much better :P
[18:22:52] <paladox>	 Reception123: who’s your slave? JohnLewis ?
[18:23:42] <Wiki-1776>	 hola Reception123 
[18:24:11] <mutante>	 CRITICAL: slave lag > 10 seconds
[18:24:36] <Reception123>	 paladox: I wish!
[18:24:40] <Reception123>	 paladox: it's ZppixBot ofc
[18:24:45] <Reception123>	 it bugs people for tasks 
[18:24:48] <mutante>	 .weather 95060
[18:24:50] <ZppixBot>	 Yahoo! Weather - Santa Cruz, CA, US: Partly Cloudy, 18°C (64°F), Humidity: 72%, Light air 1.8m/s (↗)
[18:24:51] <paladox>	 Lol
[18:24:52] <JohnLewis>	 mutante: if the slave lag was less than a day here I’d be amazed 
[18:24:58] <mutante>	 JohnLewis: lol :)
[18:25:04] <Reception123>	 mutante: hey
[18:25:07] <paladox>	 JohnLewis: why?
[18:25:18] <Reception123>	 paladox: because you're the real slave here xDD
[18:25:43] <paladox>	 LOL
[18:25:53] <mutante>	 you are joking, but some people have actually opened tickets to replace the word "slave" in context of database replication
[18:26:00] <mutante>	 because it was offensive to them
[18:26:06] <Reception123>	 mutante: haha really
[18:26:11] <mutante>	 yes :P
[18:26:12] <Reception123>	 I never knew
[18:26:23] <Reception123>	 paladox: sorry for offending you so badly :P
[18:26:24] <AmandaCatherine>	 I could understand why
[18:26:34] <paladox>	 Lol
[18:26:41] <paladox>	 Though yes
[18:26:43] <Reception123>	 yeah, but come on it's database replication language, not offending anyone
[18:26:43] <mutante>	 https://swanhart.livejournal.com/133980.html
[18:26:52] <ZppixBot>	 Title: [ Should MySQL change the terms regarding replication? - My SQL Dump ] - swanhart.livejournal.com
[18:26:55] <mutante>	 https://www.drupal.org/project/drupal/issues/2275877
[18:26:55] <ZppixBot>	 Title: [ Replace "master/slave" terminology with "primary/replica" [#2275877] | Drupal.org ] - www.drupal.org
[18:27:03] <AmandaCatherine>	 Some people might not know database replication language and therefore be offended
[18:27:15] <AmandaCatherine>	 People can be offended by the craziest of things, so better not take any chances
[18:27:24] <mutante>	 but does that scale ? ^
[18:27:42] <AmandaCatherine>	 mutante: ??
[18:27:43] <Reception123>	 well tbh people can say anything offends them
[18:28:38] <Reception123>	 AmandaCatherine: and if you don't know db replication language, how have you come in contact with it?
[18:29:21] <AmandaCatherine>	 You can come into contact with a variety of things that you wouldn’t otherwise imagine just by poking around on the Internet
[18:29:43] <AmandaCatherine>	 I’ve gotten calls from people who managed to damage their devices accidentally just by clicking a link or visiting a website
[18:29:50] <mutante>	 AmandaCatherine: if you have a really large group of people and they can be offended by the craziest thing.. like you say.. and you try to scale it globally.. does it still work or does it mean anything would offend somebody.. just because statistics
[18:30:18] <mutante>	 that's what i meant by scaling
[18:31:29] <AmandaCatherine>	 I guess in theory anything could offend someone of a foreign culture
[18:31:41] <wm-bot5>	 http://wm-bot.wmflabs.org/dump/%23miraheze.htm
[18:31:41] <MacFan4000>	 @info
[18:31:42] <ZppixBot>	 Title: [ #miraheze ] - wm-bot.wmflabs.org
[18:34:56] <AmandaCatherine>	 Reception123: what’s your opinion on this https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/5668
[18:34:57] <ZppixBot>	 Title: [ Wiki requests queue - Miraheze Meta ] - meta.miraheze.org
[18:38:01] <Wiki-1776>	 Declined!
[18:39:10] <AmandaCatherine>	 Wiki-1776: rationale?
[18:40:52] <AmandaCatherine>	 Wiki-1776: you didn’t actually decline the request
[18:43:06] <mutante>	 "Nonsensical request comment raises doubts whether this wiki would be used for legitimate purposes.... no just kidding, it would be cool but stop SCREAMING at us, also why would you need an entire wiki for that.. sounds like a single page would do it"
[18:43:38] <Wiki-1776>	 well, if it were me, I would reject it and leave a message to explain exactly what wiki will deal with. Because the description sounds inadequate to me and it may not comply with Miraheze's policies.
[18:44:29] <Wiki-1776>	 You thought you were going to take care of the request, didn't you? AmandaCatherine 
[18:44:41] <AmandaCatherine>	 Wiki-1776: I can’t as I am not a wiki creator
[18:44:42] <mutante>	 i have a feeling some people legit dont understand the difference between "a wiki" and "a page on a wiki" and use "wiki" for pages
[18:45:16] <AmandaCatherine>	 I’m thinking along the same lines regarding the description, but I also would keep an eye out to make sure it doesn’t turn into anything bullying/harassment related
[18:45:17] <Wiki-1776>	 no, sorry. use the wrong words. AmandaCatherine 
[18:45:18] <Reception123>	 mutante: yeah, it happens 
[18:45:52] <Wiki-1776>	 I meant you wanted Reception to handle the request. AmandaCatherine 
[18:46:11] <Reception123>	 oh
[18:46:15] <AmandaCatherine>	 I just think its good to have multiple opinions on borderline issues like this
[18:46:15] <Reception123>	 hm?
[18:46:28] <AmandaCatherine>	 I asked JohnLewis earlier, he didn’t really give an opinion
[18:46:48] <AmandaCatherine>	 13:53 AmandaCatherine: If I want to assume good faith, I would approve it but keep a close eye on it to make sure it doesn’t turn into anything like bullying/harassment
[18:46:48] <AmandaCatherine>	 13:53 AmandaCatherine: I mean, it could just be in humor
[18:46:57] <AmandaCatherine>	 Reception123 ^
[18:47:25] <Reception123>	 AmandaCatherine: I think JohnLewis knows better than me in this case
[18:47:41] <AmandaCatherine>	 Ok
[18:47:58] <Reception123>	 Personally, it feels like a joke so basically a wiki created for nothing
[18:48:01] <Wiki-1776>	 oh
[18:48:07] <Reception123>	 therefore, I'd ask for clarification regarding the purpose of the wiki
[18:57:10] <JohnLewis>	 Definitely feels jokey
[18:59:05] <JohnLewis>	 Reception123 but you’re the unofficial unappointed unelected community liaison!
[18:59:25] <Reception123>	 JohnLewis: lol that's 3 uns right there
[18:59:34] <Reception123>	 so what I am I then? :P
[18:59:48] <AmandaCatherine>	 On a different topic, does anyone know if there is a configuration variable to limit the number of characters in a username (i.e. to prevent things like this https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/I,_Donald_John_Trump,_do_solemnly_swear_that_I_will_faithfully_execute_the_Office_of_President_of_the_United_States,_and_will_to_the_best_of_my_Ability,_preserve,_protect_and_defend_the_Con
[18:59:48] <AmandaCatherine>	 stitution_of_the_United_States.
[18:59:49] <ZppixBot>	 Title: [ User contributions for I, Donald John Trump, do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and de ] - meta.miraheze.org
[18:59:50] <Reception123>	 I guess I'll deal with it
[18:59:57] <Reception123>	 AmandaCatherine: there could be 
[18:59:59] <AmandaCatherine>	 Well, it got cut off
[19:00:21] <AmandaCatherine>	 Reception123: do you know what it is?
[19:00:33] <Reception123>	 AmandaCatherine: nope, that's why I said there "could"
[19:00:37] <Reception123>	 I can try to find out 
[19:00:42] <AmandaCatherine>	 I think MacFan4000 said the default limit is 255 chars are something, and that’s too high IMHO
[19:02:01] <Reception123>	 "If you do not want your writing to be edited mercilessly and redistributed at will, then do not submit it here."
[19:02:14] <Reception123>	 heh since when did they add the "your writing to be edited mercilessly" part?
[19:02:18] <Reception123>	 seems pretty harsh if you ask me
[19:02:39] <AmandaCatherine>	 Did a Meta admin do that?
[19:02:43] <Reception123>	 It's like saying "hey, if you edit this page, your edit will be mercilessly redistributed!"
[19:02:47] <AmandaCatherine>	 Or is that MediaWiki default change
[19:02:48] <Reception123>	 AmandaCatherine: No, it must be upstream
[19:04:14] <AmandaCatherine>	 Is https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgActiveUserDays defined in LocalSettings?
[19:04:14] <ZppixBot>	 Title: [ Manual:$wgActiveUserDays - MediaWiki ] - www.mediawiki.org
[19:04:29] <Reception123>	 AmandaCatherine: you can check for yourself :)
[19:04:32] <AmandaCatherine>	 (I’m interested in lowering the number for my wiki)
[19:06:00] <AmandaCatherine>	 Reception123: I don’t know which section it would be located in if it does exist
[19:06:06] <AmandaCatherine>	 I’m not reading through 6000+ lines of code
[19:06:18] <Reception123>	 AmandaCatherine: that's why ctrl+f is our friend 
[19:07:42] <AmandaCatherine>	 Doesn’t appear to be defined
[19:07:56] <Reception123>	 you think anyone bothers actually reading through the code or remembering sections?
[19:08:03] <Reception123>	 AmandaCatherine: in that case, it isn't :D
[19:08:13] <AmandaCatherine>	 So where would I define it?
[19:08:22] <AmandaCatherine>	 Are the variables in alphabetical order?
[19:08:27] <AmandaCatherine>	 Or is there some other organization?
[19:10:20] <Reception123>	 AmandaCatherine: yeah, it's mostly alphabetical afaik
[19:10:36] <JohnLewis>	 It’s alphabetical in sections
[19:10:48] <Reception123>	 ah, that's a better definition
[19:11:00] <AmandaCatherine>	 So.. where would the variable go?
[19:11:04] <AmandaCatherine>	 I’m assuming near the top
[19:11:44] <AmandaCatherine>	 Maybe in its own section in this space https://github.com/miraheze/mw-config/blob/master/LocalSettings.php#L329
[19:11:44] <ZppixBot>	 Title: [ mw-config/LocalSettings.php at master · miraheze/mw-config · GitHub ] - github.com
[19:11:47] <AmandaCatherine>	 JohnLewis?
[19:14:36] <JohnLewis>	 Maybe misc
[19:14:55] <AmandaCatherine>	 Ok
[19:17:12] <JohnLewis>	 Could even be put in ManageWiki ;)
[19:18:44] <Not>	 [02mw-config] 07Amanda-Catherine opened pull request 03#2391: Add $wgActiveUserDays - 13https://git.io/fALr5
[19:18:55] <AmandaCatherine>	 ^ that should work for now
[19:21:42] <JohnLewis>	 Reception123: *hint* *hint* make ManageWiki great again
[19:22:05] <AmandaCatherine>	 Lol
[19:22:27] <paladox>	 LOL
[19:22:37] <AmandaCatherine>	 I don’t think that ManageWiki ever really has been “great”
[19:22:40] <paladox>	 JohnLewis: when did it get bad ? :D
[19:22:50] <AmandaCatherine>	 Not until the rest of the essentials like user groups namespaces etc are added
[19:24:03] <paladox>	 AmandaCatherine: it’s a improvement though
[19:24:06] <JohnLewis>	 Paladox: down hill after the day it was added
[19:24:09] <AmandaCatherine>	 Indeed
[19:24:09] <paladox>	 Over having to know how to use php
[19:24:50] <paladox>	 JohnLewis: your job is to make it great again then :)
[19:24:56] <JohnLewis>	 Also groups and namespaces aren’t the stuff that will make it great
[19:25:11] <AmandaCatherine>	 Well, they’re some of the stuff that will make it great
[19:25:18] <JohnLewis>	 actually having more than 4 settings will help massively 
[19:25:25] <AmandaCatherine>	 Because you still have to know php to do that stuff if it’s not included
[19:25:47] <JohnLewis>	 But there’s like loads of other settings too
[19:25:57] <AmandaCatherine>	 True
[19:26:08] <JohnLewis>	 Paladox: you guys job is to do that
[19:26:23] <paladox>	 JohnLewis: you work on mw though :)
[19:26:25] <JohnLewis>	 its able to support like 80% of MediaWiki settings 
[19:26:35] <paladox>	 Or do you mean for us to move the settings to managewiki?
[19:26:50] <AmandaCatherine>	 (BTW this is ready to go I think https://github.com/miraheze/mw-config/pull/2391)
[19:26:52] <JohnLewis>	 Yes... I’ve been saying it for months
[19:27:35] <JohnLewis>	 and my motivation to do complex work on a tool that’s not extensively used is low
[19:28:28] <AmandaCatherine>	 We should advertise/promote it more so that it will be extensively used
[19:28:52] <Reception123>	 JohnLewis: Then I need to make that ManageWikiAdditionalSettings
[19:28:54] <JohnLewis>	 User use isn’t the issue 
[19:29:04] <JohnLewis>	 MediaWiki use is
[19:29:07] <Reception123>	 JohnLewis: since as I said, I don't want all the less used changes on the same pag
[19:29:08] <Reception123>	 e
[19:29:11] <Reception123>	 so I'll group more of htem
[19:29:13] <Reception123>	 *them
[19:29:20] <Reception123>	 JohnLewis: Make Namespaces with ManageWiki Great Again
[19:29:22] <Reception123>	 :P
[19:29:36] <AmandaCatherine>	 JohnLewis: Well, upstream use will probably increase as the tool has more features
[19:29:58] <JohnLewis>	 Reception123: I’m not saying everything but there’s a lot of usefu stuff to go
[19:30:01] <Reception123>	 AmandaCatherine: well ManageWiki is great considering before everything had to be done by Phabricator tasks
[19:30:17] <Reception123>	 AmandaCatherine: John did an excellent job finally eliminating that process for many things
[19:30:34] <AmandaCatherine>	 True
[19:30:48] <JohnLewis>	 Amanda: upstream use should be proportional to CreateWiki
[19:31:02] <AmandaCatherine>	 What’s the upstream use for CreateWiki?
[19:31:23] <Wiki-1776>	 ManageWikiAdditionalSettings!! 
[19:31:24] <JohnLewis>	 Afaik one other person who couldn’t get it working
[19:31:25] <Wiki-1776>	 XD
[19:31:54] <AmandaCatherine>	 Well, CreateWiki is really only good for a wiki farm
[19:32:04] <AmandaCatherine>	 And most other established wiki farms have their own methods in place
[19:32:19] <JohnLewis>	 ManageWiki is designed for wiki farms
[19:32:22] <AmandaCatherine>	 But I definitely think that upstream ManageWiki use will increase once it has more features
[19:32:31] <AmandaCatherine>	 But it could also be used by a single wiki too
[19:32:38] <AmandaCatherine>	 Whereas CreateWiki really can;t
[19:32:46] <AmandaCatherine>	 s/can
[19:32:47] <JohnLewis>	 ManageWiki requires CreateWiki
[19:33:02] <AmandaCatherine>	 s/can;t/can’t
[19:33:02] <ZppixBot>	 AmandaCatherine meant to say: Whereas CreateWiki really can’t
[19:33:20] <AmandaCatherine>	 Well, that’s something that we might want to remove
[19:33:32] <JohnLewis>	 Not going to happen
[19:33:32] <AmandaCatherine>	 Dependency on other extensions usually isn’t a good thing
[19:33:53] <AmandaCatherine>	 Meh
[19:34:04] <JohnLewis>	 There’s no way I’m compleyrly rewriting the ext
[19:34:08] <Reception123>	 AmandaCatherine: well ManageWiki relies on a system like CreateWiki
[19:34:14] <Reception123>	 since it needs a dblist with wikis, etc.
[19:34:41] <JohnLewis>	 Anyway, single wiki exts exist for this task anyway
[19:35:49] <JohnLewis>	 And installing CW really isn’t difficult 
[19:36:08] <JohnLewis>	 So a rewrite is completely off the tables
[19:37:33] <Not>	 [02mw-config] 07JohnFLewis closed pull request 03#2391: Add $wgActiveUserDays - 13https://git.io/fALr5
[19:37:34] <Not>	 [02miraheze/mw-config] 07JohnFLewis pushed 032 commits to 03master [+0/-0/±2] 13https://git.io/fALKy
[19:37:36] <Not>	 [02miraheze/mw-config] 07Amanda-Catherine 03cc84622 - Add $wgActiveUserDays A week is more than enough time for a user to be considered “active” IMHO
[19:37:37] <Not>	 [02miraheze/mw-config] 07JohnFLewis 03721779c - Merge pull request #2391 from Amanda-Catherine/patch-1 Add $wgActiveUserDays
[19:39:49] <Reception123>	 JohnLewis: bad pun, but it's off the "SQL" tables :PPPP
[19:40:16] <JohnLewis>	 Reception123: haha no
[19:41:15] <Reception123>	 sorry, had to do it :D
[19:45:49] <JohnLewis>	 Reception123: your target is 500 lines
[19:46:16] <JohnLewis>	 for punishment yesterday, you’ve got to make LS 500 lines smaller!
[19:46:36] <Reception123>	 JohnLewis: heh, I guess I should get working on my Special:ManageWikiAdditionalSettings
[19:46:43] <Reception123>	 should it be Additional or Extra settings?
[19:46:50] <Reception123>	 and of course, collapsible would be much nicer, but I guess we can't
[19:46:55] <JohnLewis>	 No, dont
[19:47:14] <Reception123>	 why not? :D
[19:47:14] <JohnLewis>	 I’ll  look at collapsible
[19:47:24] <Reception123>	 JohnLewis: oh, ok, that's great
[19:47:49] <JohnLewis>	 But 10 more settings ain’t going to look bad
[19:48:51] <Reception123>	 yeah, but it's kind of unnecessary to add those and confuse users about what's with them
[19:48:56] <Reception123>	 when we can add another additional thing
[19:49:05] <Reception123>	 oh shut up spammers
[19:49:05] <AmandaCatherine>	 Spambot alert
[19:49:12] <AmandaCatherine>	 Why didn’t Sigyn do it?
[19:49:33] <Reception123>	 AmandaCatherine: it would've in a few, but I got impatient 
[19:49:48] <Reception123>	 there would've been a few other messages
[19:49:59] <JohnLewis>	 Reception123: 99% of settings are like that
[19:50:18] <Reception123>	 JohnLewis: well most of the current ones are pretty useful and used
[19:50:34] <Reception123>	 if not at least have another section under these labeled "other settings"
[19:50:44] <JohnLewis>	 And there are some left to do
[19:50:47] <Reception123>	 I don't like the concept of having to scroll down infinitely to get to the "Submit" button either
[19:51:18] <JohnLewis>	 move popular stuff not ones used by 1 wiki
[19:51:41] <Wiki-1776>	 configurations populose?
[19:52:21] <Wiki-1776>	 ehm
[19:52:46] <Wiki-1776>	 popular settings* hehe 
[20:01:07] <Not>	 [02mw-config] 07Wiki1776 opened pull request 03#2392: add website on wgAllowExternalImagesFrom for astrobiologywiki and doomsdaydebunkedwiki per T3504 - 13https://git.io/fALPr
[20:13:51] <Not>	 [02mw-config] 07Wiki1776 synchronize pull request 03#2392: add website on wgAllowExternalImagesFrom for astrobiologywiki and doomsdaydebunkedwiki per T3504 - 13https://git.io/fALPr
[20:14:29] <Not>	 [02mw-config] 07Wiki1776 edited pull request 03#2392: add website on wgAllowExternalImagesFrom for astrobiologywiki and doomsdaydebunkedwiki per T3504 + adiction of Wiki1776wiki - 13https://git.io/fALPr
[21:22:00] <Wiki-1776>	 hello
[21:27:44] <icinga-miraheze>	 RECOVERY - mw3 JobQueue on mw3 is OK: JOBQUEUE OK - job queue below 300 jobs  
[21:31:45] <icinga-miraheze>	 PROBLEM - mw3 JobQueue on mw3 is CRITICAL: JOBQUEUE CRITICAL - job queue greater than 300 jobs. Current queue: 698  
[22:23:44] <icinga-miraheze>	 RECOVERY - mw3 JobQueue on mw3 is OK: JOBQUEUE OK - job queue below 300 jobs  
[23:30:41] <PuppyKun>	 uh
[23:30:55] <PuppyKun>	 You having fun there, void?
[23:31:28] <Voidwalker>	 the net here is absolute garbage :P
[23:31:42] <PuppyKun>	 I see that
[23:33:26] <Voidwalker>	 I really need to setup an ethernet cable like asap
[23:37:14] <MH-Discord>	 <Void> case in point
[23:50:18] <Wiki-1776>	 Hello, can approve it? https://git.io/fALPr
[23:50:19] <ZppixBot>	 Title: [ add website on wgAllowExternalImagesFrom for astrobiologywiki and doomsdaydebunkedwiki per T3504 + adiction of Wiki1776wiki by Wiki1776 · Pull Request #2392 · miraheze/mw-config · GitHub ] - git.io
[23:51:32] <MH-Discord>	 <GOTILON> Any way to delete pages in a massive way other than Nuke or NukePD?
[23:52:16] <MH-Discord>	 <GOTILON> #wiki-feed crashed by my wiki(?
[23:52:24] <MH-Discord>	 <GOTILON> xD
[23:58:50] <MH-Discord>	 <NDKilla> its still working ouo