[00:07:07] Just barely beat the storms [00:07:12] But only ran one errand [00:29:48] PROBLEM - mw3 JobQueue on mw3 is CRITICAL: JOBQUEUE CRITICAL - job queue greater than 300 jobs. Current queue: 2818 [00:45:12] [02miraheze/services] 07MirahezeSSLBot pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/fN925 [00:45:14] [02miraheze/services] 07MirahezeSSLBot 039054857 - BOT: Updating services config for wikis [00:45:18] what's up with the timezone selector in ManageWiki? [00:45:30] it's trying to search for and link to pages on the wiki [00:45:36] Voidwalker: what do you mean? [00:46:12] on Special:ManageWiki, mess around with the timezone input [00:46:28] Checking [00:46:39] I don’t want to actually change the TZ though [00:46:52] don't save it, just start typing [00:47:59] Hmm... you’re right, something’s fishy [00:48:05] The dropdown menu is gone [00:48:09] I never had to type manually [00:48:22] And when I start typing, nothing is coming up [00:49:30] Looking, paladox changed that recently [00:49:43] Voidwalker: do you need to change something with the TZ? [00:50:11] [02miraheze/services] 07MirahezeSSLBot pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/fN92h [00:50:13] [02miraheze/services] 07MirahezeSSLBot 030cb687c - BOT: Updating services config for wikis [00:50:15] well, one, it's a bug two, I just got a request on my talkpage, so yeh [00:51:11] Hmm.. I assuming that the user who requested it (since they said “my wiki”) tried to do it themselves and ran into the same problem [00:51:21] Assuming they are aware of ManageWiki [00:53:21] * AmandaCatherine drafts a Phab task just in case, but hopes she doesn’t have to save it [00:55:25] The code looks fine and it appears to be update on the MediaWiki servers [00:55:37] up to date* [00:55:55] So should I save the Phab task to report a bug? [00:57:38] AmandaCatherine: nope [00:57:51] JohnLewis ?? [00:58:31] Based on what MacFan4000 said it appears to be a bug [00:58:40] [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07JohnFLewis pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/fN9ao [00:58:42] [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07JohnFLewis 030e31a7b - fix override $mwtype [00:58:58] it's a bug but the fix takes less time than a phab task [00:59:14] Oh, was there an error from the start? [00:59:24] somene needs to deploy it though [00:59:25] Because the dropdown menu worked fine ~2 weeks ago [00:59:38] should always have been broken [00:59:53] Well, it wasn’t when I first created my wiki [00:59:58] https://github.com/miraheze/ManageWiki/commit/e587f7b16659a4e08c8b763f1c18f4834c214e23#diff-a1c4356635fb3d8761ebb8132316bda9 [00:59:59] Title: [ put list in alphabetical order · miraheze/ManageWiki@e587f7b · GitHub ] - github.com [01:00:01] that broke it [01:00:07] And I gather until now, nobody else has noticed the problem [01:03:13] Anyway [01:03:14] !night [01:03:14] Good night, sweet dreams and dream of the miraheze servers without errors! [01:29:46] RECOVERY - mw3 JobQueue on mw3 is OK: JOBQUEUE OK - job queue below 300 jobs [07:32:49] [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07translatewiki pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/fN9H0 [07:32:51] [02miraheze/ManageWiki] 07translatewiki 03d8d9daf - Localisation updates from https://translatewiki.net. [07:49:32] [02miraheze/mediawiki] 07paladox pushed 031 commit to 03REL1_31 [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/fN9Ql [07:49:34] [02miraheze/mediawiki] 07paladox 035e14c07 - Update ManageWiki [08:26:55] mutante: Lol [13:36:36] Well, I just learned that my ISP is having an outage currently [15:04:36] Should we verify miraheze.org on github? [15:04:47] https://help.github.com/articles/verifying-your-organization-s-domain/ [15:04:47] Title: [ Verifying your organization's domain - User Documentation ] - help.github.com [15:11:14] thats up to the other sysadmins [15:53:28] Well I guess that https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Sysadmin << is a misleading user. Can a steward or sysadmin deal with it? [15:53:33] Title: [ User contributions for Sysadmin - Miraheze Meta ] - meta.miraheze.org [15:53:36] Staff impersonation would be the reason [15:55:34] Steward would have to deal with it [15:56:10] JohnLewis: Voidwalker ^^ [15:56:35] Looking at CA they have one contrib on a wiki [15:57:07] Though we have no policy that someone cannot call them selfs a SysAdmim [15:57:14] Even if they are not really one [15:57:18] Hmm [15:58:04] MacFan4000: I just said stewards are to deal with it. Unless you are one? [15:58:28] CVT also have the userright [15:58:40] Yes to block spammers [15:58:45] Not to block misleading names [15:59:41] We have https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User_accounts_policy but no username policy [15:59:42] Title: [ User accounts policy - Miraheze Meta ] - meta.miraheze.org [15:59:55] Then why block? [16:00:03] Were they a spammer? [16:00:23] I'm in favour of waiting for a steward. That way no one can really make out of scope comments [16:01:31] There was also https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Requests_for_Comment/Username_policy [16:01:32] Title: [ Requests for Comment/Username policy - Miraheze Meta ] - meta.miraheze.org [16:01:43] No consensus was reached [16:02:21] Yep, then why the block? [16:02:34] “Misleading name” is not a reason [16:02:38] JohnLewis: Voidwalker: SPF|Cloud: PuppyKun: ^^ [16:04:52] Imo the lock is out of cvts scope [16:05:04] And it's not staff impersonation unless they say they're a miraheze sysadmin [16:05:14] Ok [16:05:21] I'll undo it and keep that in mind for next time [16:05:41] Thanks [16:06:09] Done [16:20:53] Hello [16:21:13] Hello [16:24:59] paladox: if you’re around FYI I think that when you remove the extension-review tag for a Phab task and the extension is approved for install, you also need to change the column for the “extensions” project to “reviewed” [16:25:05] (I’ve done it for you this time) [16:25:26] Oh [16:25:28] Thanks [16:25:29] Sorry [16:25:49] Np [16:35:34] https://meta.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=User:MirahezeSysadminOfficial&action=edit&redlink=1 [16:35:35] Title: [ Creating User:MirahezeSysadminOfficial - Miraheze Meta ] - meta.miraheze.org [16:35:35] Err [16:35:39] PuppyKun: ^^ [16:35:55] +1 lock/block [16:36:04] Unless that’s a doppelgänger of someone [16:36:12] Or a role account [16:36:46] That should be locked or [16:36:49] Blocked [16:36:55] Okay, now account is vandalizing [16:37:00] Block/lock definitely [16:37:13] MacFan4000: ^ [16:37:28] sau226 ^^ [16:37:48] I can lock / block if no one answers in 5-10mins [16:37:52] If no one answers [16:38:17] I’m on vandal patrol [16:38:24] Ok thanks [16:38:25] paladox: you should never block/lock [16:38:28] boof gone [16:38:35] !m Voidwalker [16:38:35] <[d__d]> You're doing good work, Voidwalker! [16:38:40] MacFan4000: john said I can in emergency situations [16:38:40] you are not cvt or stew so its out of your scoipe [16:38:44] scope* [16:38:55] John said I can in emergency [16:38:59] ^ [16:39:04] ok [16:39:11] Which is why i said 5-10mins [16:39:21] Sysadmins can emergency grant themselves steward in a emergency when no stewards are available (if I remember correctly) [16:39:25] Revi has done it before [16:39:55] he has been one cvt and the abuse team [16:40:30] Great, now I’ve got an impersonator https://meta.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ACentralAuth&target=Amanda+is+me [16:40:31] Title: [ Global account information for Amanda is me - Miraheze Meta ] - meta.miraheze.org [16:40:52] AmandaCatherine: yep that’s why I doint want to abuse it :) [16:41:01] That why I gave a time before I would do anything [16:41:10] Who the heck is Todorac anyway? [16:41:17] I have no idea :) [16:41:43] with the abuse team and cvt, sysadmin usually don't do vandalism handling [16:41:49] that's what abuse and cvt is for [16:42:08] (abuse is more of handling abuse complaints but anyway$ [16:42:09] ) [16:43:20] Y’know who I think it is? [16:43:22] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Long-term_abuse/Wikinger [16:43:23] [WIKIPEDIA] Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/Wikinger | "..." [16:43:34] That LTA has a history of impersonations [16:43:57] I got harassed by Wikinger on Wikipedia once [16:44:05] wikinger lol [16:44:07] I had to get my talk protected twice [16:44:26] (not really lol) [16:44:39] Wikinger (I believe) is responsible for impersonating LP on numerous occasions... [16:44:53] And ILB on Wikipedia (of course, ILB = LP, but still) [16:45:02] Is there a filter we CVT could tweak to stop him? [16:45:24] Unfortunately I don’t think so.. there’d be way too many different combinations [16:45:29] I'd wait and see [16:45:44] I have never seen Wikinger outside wp [16:46:26] I have https://meta.miraheze.org/w/index.php?limit=50&title=Special%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=NDKilla+is+friend+of+Amanda&namespace=&tagfilter=&start=&end= [16:46:28] Title: [ User contributions for NDKilla is friend of Amanda - Miraheze Meta ] - meta.miraheze.org [16:46:38] Odd but again you have Japanese LTA's trolling people after usopedia moved [16:47:39] Any move like that of uspoedia happen recently? [16:48:28] Also todorac is an LTA that appears to be from 2b2t [16:48:44] Also https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/158.69.119.118 is likely to be Wikinger [16:48:45] Title: [ User contributions for 158.69.119.118 - Miraheze Meta ] - meta.miraheze.org [16:48:50] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/476134346101751839/image.png << Blocks on 2b2t re todorac [16:48:59] Just like the Freenode spambots found us, Wikipedia LTA’s have too [16:50:22] Anyway got to get some food [16:50:39] Also FYI I'm connected thru a bouncer so unless there's a good reason to I'm most likely offline (on IRC) [17:31:32] Ahh.. nice lunch [17:33:36] AmandaCatherine: what did you have for lunch? [17:33:41] I had McDonald’s for dinner [17:33:56] Ham and cheese sub [17:34:32] Ugh... https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/TodoracIsAmanda [17:34:34] Title: [ User contributions for TodoracIsAmanda - Miraheze Meta ] - meta.miraheze.org [17:34:35] Another impersonator [17:34:57] Lol [17:35:00] It’s the same one [17:35:02] As before [17:35:24] Why, oh why are they impersonating me??? [17:35:27] What have I done??? [17:35:31] Not sure [17:35:39] I’m glad they are not doing it to me :) [17:35:58] Though I feel I just jinxed it now [17:36:14] MacFan4000isAmanda... WTF [17:36:26] What are they trying to do.. sabotage me? [17:36:35] Yes [17:36:43] Why? [17:36:45] But you doint have to worry. [17:36:54] Since we know your not that lta [17:36:59] Or who ever they are [17:37:34] I know that casting aspirations is a bad thing... but what if those accounts impersonating me are actually bad hands of one of the users who harassed me at my RFCs? [17:38:03] Oh have no idea [17:38:27] Is LP back? [17:38:45] No [17:38:48] Still in prison [17:39:22] OMG https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Lawrence-Praires-Wikinger-Pro-Hacker [17:39:23] Title: [ Global account information for Lawrence-Praires-Wikinger-Pro-Hacker - Miraheze Meta ] - meta.miraheze.org [17:39:31] Voidwalker: HELP [17:39:35] I believe that they are reading the botbot [17:39:52] Unfortunately no way to stop that [17:39:54] AmandaCatherine: he locked it [17:39:56] Already [17:40:14] Yeah, I meant that with a little bit of humor [17:41:07] Heh [17:41:18] * paladox puts Sherlock’s hat on AmandaCatherine [17:41:20] Voidwalker: isn’t there a tool in CA that you can globally oversight some of those abusive names [17:41:34] To find out why they are impersonating you [17:41:49] Lol [17:42:18] There's a script that does that on Wikimedia [17:42:37] I don't have oversight access and even if I did that might be considered out of scope [17:43:12] I know, and I thought that there was also a “centralauth-oversight” permission in addition to centralauth-lock [17:43:28] I don’t think it would be out of scope to suppress names that are attacking other users [17:44:38] !m Voidwalker [17:44:39] <[d__d]> You're doing good work, Voidwalker! [17:44:43] !m sau226 [17:44:43] <[d__d]> You're doing good work, sau226! [17:45:46] Voidwalker JohnLewis PuppyKun [17:45:55] Does anyone know about a CA oversight feature? [17:46:10] it's there, but I'd think it's out of scope for this [17:46:21] Out of scope for attack accounts? [17:46:23] Everyone let’s start mass pinging AmandaCatherine!!!! [17:46:25] Jks [17:46:49] I would think that attack accounts would be under the scope of global oversight [17:48:18] Can we at least RevDelete their edits, as well as the global account log and the user creation log? [17:51:55] AmandaCatherine: was that ham and cheese [17:52:00] Sub from subway? [17:52:06] No [17:52:49] I’ve now done some revdel-Ing on meta [17:55:14] Can we revdel the global account log and the user creation log for the accounts attacking me? [17:55:59] Who eats McDonald’s / KFC’s / burger king / Pizza Hut / dominos or subway in here? [17:56:12] I cannot add Toby carvery as that’s a British one [17:57:35] MacFan4000 ^^^ [18:05:17] paladox: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q03Ki4GhONs [18:05:18] Title: [ big mac rap song - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com [18:05:39] Lol [18:05:41] Unless its very strong e.g. swearing I doubt it or at least think the chances are very slim [18:06:02] It’s not swearing, but it is attacking me [18:06:21] Maybe I’m just paranoid, but I don’t want anyone thinking that those are bad-hand accounts of me [18:06:29] And thus trying to get me banned again [18:06:58] AmandaCatherine: well us ops and cvt know it’s not you [18:07:21] I hope [18:07:25] But some of my ex-harassers don [18:07:33] s/don/don’t [18:07:34] AmandaCatherine meant to say: But some of my ex-harassers don’t [18:07:54] Ehh the bot's not good at doing punctuation [18:16:26] !m Sigyn [18:16:26] <[d__d]> You're doing good work, Sigyn! [18:17:36] In before [d__d] gets killed. [18:17:54] Wow inb4 meme looks really bad actually typed out. XD [18:18:10] Why would [d__d] get killed PuppyKun? [18:18:30] Because puppy love will kill it :S [18:18:33] :D [18:18:36] Jks [18:18:37] If everyone typed !m so no one person was spamming but it looked like [d__d] was [18:19:10] Everyone would have to !m all at once [18:19:20] For it to be rapid-fire enough to kill it [18:19:47] Well let’s all get our !m ready then [18:19:59] paladox: let’s not [18:20:08] I think the logger is important [18:20:31] I am not [18:20:35] I was joking [18:21:16] 19:19 +MirahezeRC: metawiki * [[Special:Log/newusers]] create2 * Donald Tusk * created new account User:Yoweri Museveni [18:21:25] Donald Tusk really? [18:21:34] Suspicious, but not an automatic red-flag [18:21:46] I was thinking that Donald Tusk was an attempt at Donald Trump [18:21:48] He is the head of the eu [18:21:49] But who knows [18:21:53] Oh [18:22:12] Whose Yoweri Museveni? [18:22:28] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoweri_Museveni [18:22:29] [WIKIPEDIA] Yoweri Museveni | "Yoweri Museveni ( pronunciation ; born 15 September 1944) is a Ugandan politician who has been the President of Uganda since 1986. Museveni was involved in rebellions that toppled Ugandan leaders Idi Amin (1971–79) and Milton Obote (1980–85). In the mid to late 1990s, Museveni was celebrated by the West..." [18:22:29] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Tusk [18:22:33] Have no idea [18:22:55] I mean, unless they vandalize, there’s nothing wrong with that username, I don’t think [18:23:03] Especially if they request a wiki about the EU or Uganda [18:23:23] * AmandaCatherine stalks the RC [18:23:40] I think it calls into question, they should not be using leaders name [18:25:19] But then again, there’s no policy against it [18:26:37] We need to make more clearer policy [18:26:50] There was an attempt at a username policy that failed (I think) [18:26:58] yup [18:27:28] Voidwalker: can we remove the logs containing the names of the attack accounts against me? [18:27:38] (i.e. global account log and user creation log) [18:31:33] did I miss anything? [18:31:57] The global account logs [18:32:04] The logs of the accounts being locked still contain the names [18:35:41] Also Voidwalker you missed “Amanda is me” in the user creation log [18:38:51] Spambot alert [18:42:45] Err wtf [18:42:57] ikr [18:43:02] paladox: what happened? [18:43:09] the spam message [18:43:18] ^^ [18:43:19] Oh, well I can’t see it :) [18:43:36] I’m glad that wasent in the logs :) [18:44:03] Voidwalker: can you please remove the attack names from https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Log/globalauth [18:44:04] Title: [ Global account log - Miraheze Meta ] - meta.miraheze.org [18:46:48] Why do we have users registering one account and then creating a second account while logged in to their first account? [18:47:32] Is Henry John FitzRoy Somerset another British/EU person? [18:47:47] I doint think so [18:47:53] I'm calling it [18:48:16] Voidwalker: BTW thanks [18:49:13] WTF is this Lord Hill-Norton account doing? [18:50:53] Locked now [18:51:22] Oh, pfft, I was just in progress of leaving a message on their talk page [18:51:25] AGF [18:51:25] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Hill-Norton << Ran a google on the name and found this [18:51:27] [WIKIPEDIA] Peter Hill-Norton | "Admiral of the Fleet Peter John Hill-Norton, Baron Hill-Norton, (8 February 1915 – 16 May 2004) was a senior Royal Navy officer. He fought in the Second World War as gunnery officer in a cruiser operating on the Western Approaches and in the North Sea taking part in the Norwegian Campaign, then in a..." [18:52:01] Just another name of a real person [18:52:04] Why is that LTA? [18:53:36] sounds like a spam bot is picking random names from Wikipedia [18:53:49] Maybe [18:53:54] But none of the accounts actually spammed [18:54:09] That’s why I said AGF and was going to leave a polite message on their talk page about creating extra accounts that they aren’t going to use [18:54:24] No they did not [18:54:26] they want to silently prepare it.. so that _when_ they use it they can do this large attack with all users at once.. [18:54:36] That was to that spam bot [18:57:56] [02mw-config] 07Amanda-Catherine opened pull request 03#2350: Temporarily re-enable global blocks on weatherwiki - 13https://git.io/fNHxI [18:58:44] Why is there so much (censored word) spam today? [18:59:04] Your guess is as good as mine [18:59:24] Looks like we're ready by the looks of it [19:00:07] Don’t even ask me how that Japanese LTA even knew about me [19:00:37] AmandaCatherine: ok I’m going to ask how did they know about you? [19:00:51] Lol [19:01:41] Anyway can someone merge the PR please? [19:05:33] [02mw-config] 07paladox closed pull request 03#2350: Temporarily re-enable global blocks on weatherwiki - 13https://git.io/fNHxI [19:05:35] [02miraheze/mw-config] 07paladox pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/fNHx7 [19:05:36] [02miraheze/mw-config] 07Amanda-Catherine 03c16d123 - Temporarily re-enable global blocks on weatherwiki (#2350) Usually I want to block everything locally, but given the amount of vandalism/spam today, I’ll re-enable global blocks as a temporary measure [19:05:47] AmandaCatherine: done [19:06:08] Ty [19:07:36] Your not welcome :) [19:07:38] Jks [19:07:45] Your welcome :) [19:07:59] Stop it already with the weird jokes [19:08:27] AmandaCatherine: why? [19:08:41] Because they’re not funny to me [19:08:51] Ok [19:09:03] AmandaCatherine: what do you find funny? [19:09:34] Play-on-words type of stuff [19:09:52] Or jokes using homonyms/homophones etc [19:11:44] Play on words AmandaCatherine ? [19:12:22] puns, I suppose [19:12:29] ^ [19:12:36] Oh [19:12:39] I wish we had an AI banbot [19:12:42] Saves time [19:13:10] So after a commit gets pushed how long before puppet deploys it and makes it live? [19:13:18] Assuming no manual force runs are used [19:13:46] 10mins [19:13:51] Up to 10 mins [19:14:05] So the next one will be 20:20pm [19:14:06] Thanks for the info [19:14:07] Bst time [19:14:15] Should be on a wiki somewhere [19:19:42] LOL, someone just called the IT Support Hotline, which is only for urgent matters in order to report that they were shopping for a new iPhone X and couldn’t find one that was cheap [19:19:52] #peoplebehavingbadly [19:20:21] lool [19:20:22] Lol [19:20:31] Who’s hotline AmandaCatherine ? [19:20:43] you could post this stuff on https://www.reddit.com/r/talesfromtechsupport/ [19:20:45] Title: [ Tales From Tech Support ] - www.reddit.com [19:21:25] ouch, i pasted a link to new reddit design.. my bad.. the correct URL is: https://old.reddit.com/r/talesfromtechsupport/ [19:21:26] Title: [ Tales From Tech Support ] - old.reddit.com [19:21:39] There’s a nationwide hotline in Canada (with the exception of Quebec) to report “urgent, suspicious or unusual activity on a technical device” to an available IT support expert [19:21:51] It was implemented after a nationwide cyberattack a few years ago [19:21:56] That hit both corporate and personal devices [19:22:04] Took nearly half of the entire grid offline [19:22:35] Really, interesting [19:22:38] "new iphone isn't cheap? well.. that's unusual..." "better call the hotline for unusual activity" [19:22:42] Now the U.K. should do that [19:22:43] Too [19:22:59] mutante: or they better pop across the border [19:23:00] Lol [19:23:02] also, "i need a phone, of course that's urgent" [19:23:30] It’s intended for immediate forwarding of reports of viruses, malware, suspected hacking, etc [19:23:36] But unfortunately people abuse it all the time [19:23:37] can Zppixbot create Phab tickets? [19:24:02] AmandaCatherine: and you work for it? i bet you have a lot of stories [19:24:22] Well, I staff the hotline from time to time [19:24:31] A lot of people from various IT firms rotate in staffing the receiver [19:24:36] "any malfunction in Windows" -> "omg, somebody hacked me" [19:25:07] oh, that's interesting that it has rotation between firms like that [19:25:42]