[00:00:33] AmandaCatherine piwik exposes that info to us admins. [00:01:01] Yikes, so piwiki admins can see IP data without needing CU rights? [00:01:03] but how do you connect an IP with an IRC nick there? [00:01:07] That’s sacry [00:01:19] AmandaCatherine per the policy [00:01:25] we cannot look at the ips [00:01:33] server root will always have more rights than any wiki user, though [00:01:38] But you just did, because you said you know where I am [00:01:53] AmandaCatherine erm, i never said that, i said i could. [00:02:09] AmandaCatherine that is why it's lock down. [00:02:28] if you would paste a custom URL and make you click it ..AND you would know others did not click it [00:02:36] I’m starting to get a bad hunch about this analytics thing [00:02:39] PROBLEM - cp5 Puppet on cp5 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL: Catalog fetch fail. Either compilation failed or puppetmaster has issues [00:02:41] PROBLEM - misc1 Puppet on misc1 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL: Catalog fetch fail. Either compilation failed or puppetmaster has issues [00:02:51] PROBLEM - db4 Puppet on db4 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL: Catalog fetch fail. Either compilation failed or puppetmaster has issues [00:02:58] AmandaCatherine but piwik anonoymouses you [00:03:04] so we doin't know who is who [00:03:33] PROBLEM - puppet1 Puppet on puppet1 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL: Catalog fetch fail. Either compilation failed or puppetmaster has issues [00:03:34] But the fact that you would still be able to trace the physical locations of anyone, regardless if you know who it is or not, is scary [00:03:35] PROBLEM - mw2 Puppet on mw2 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL: Catalog fetch fail. Either compilation failed or puppetmaster has issues [00:03:45] PROBLEM - lizardfs2 Puppet on lizardfs2 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL: Catalog fetch fail. Either compilation failed or puppetmaster has issues [00:04:05] Why would you want/need to know where people are physically when you talk about statistics and analytics? [00:04:15] PROBLEM - misc2 Puppet on misc2 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL: Catalog fetch fail. Either compilation failed or puppetmaster has issues [00:04:21] PROBLEM - misc4 Puppet on misc4 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL: Catalog fetch fail. Either compilation failed or puppetmaster has issues [00:04:35] paladox: is this up for you? http://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Mutante/Paladox/3/x [00:04:37] Title: [ User:Mutante/Paladox/3/x - Miraheze Meta ] - meta.miraheze.org [00:05:18] lol [00:06:05] AmandaCatherine: what about using Tor [00:06:16] is it allowed here? read and edit? [00:06:21] AmandaCatherine i cannot trace your location [00:06:24] just city. [00:06:27] so you are safe [00:06:35] we enabled the privacy features [00:07:09] to make sure piwik only gives us the analytics, not tell us where someones exact location is [00:07:24] paladox: it's more convincing if it doesn't make people think: "well, then how do i know they are not enabling it again" :) [00:07:44] ah right [00:07:55] AmandaCatherine you can always come to the eu and request your data [00:08:29] all miraheze data is inside EU< right [00:08:36] yes [00:08:44] paladox: I don’t even want you be able to trace my city [00:08:59] PROBLEM - test1 Puppet on test1 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL: Puppet has 1 failures. Last run 3 minutes ago with 1 failures. Failed resources (up to 3 shown): Exec[git_pull_MediaWiki core] [00:09:00] But fortunately, the city that shows up is likely very wrong [00:09:12] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Analytics [00:09:13] Title: [ MatomoAnalytics - Miraheze Meta ] - meta.miraheze.org [00:09:41] I mean, I think everyone knows what General metropolitan area I live in, cause I’ve said it here before, but I don’t want anyone knowing more than that [00:10:16] back in the days on geocities, our analytics was an animated gif showing the number of visitors to the page.. a big animated counter.. probably just js.. :p [00:10:24] :O [00:11:24] AmandaCatherine it's in the privacy policy on what we collect. [00:11:34] RECOVERY - mw2 Puppet on mw2 is OK: OK: Puppet is currently enabled, last run 43 seconds ago with 0 failures [00:11:37] Well, you’re collecting incorrect data anyway, so :P [00:11:40] AmandaCatherine we are under the gdpr so strict handing of the data applys. [00:11:46] RECOVERY - lizardfs2 Puppet on lizardfs2 is OK: OK: Puppet is currently enabled, last run 1 minute ago with 0 failures [00:11:53] Everyone knows I’m in greater Ottawa, but that’s all everyone should know [00:12:06] But geolocation likely will not tell you that I’m in Ottawa [00:12:13] Which is a good thing [00:12:14] RECOVERY - misc2 Puppet on misc2 is OK: OK: Puppet is currently enabled, last run 1 minute ago with 0 failures [00:12:22] RECOVERY - misc4 Puppet on misc4 is OK: OK: Puppet is currently enabled, last run 48 seconds ago with 0 failures [00:12:22] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Privacy_Policy [00:12:23] Title: [ Privacy Policy - Miraheze Meta ] - meta.miraheze.org [00:12:40] RECOVERY - misc1 Puppet on misc1 is OK: OK: Puppet is currently enabled, last run 33 seconds ago with 0 failures [00:12:48] RECOVERY - cp5 Puppet on cp5 is OK: OK: Puppet is currently enabled, last run 30 seconds ago with 0 failures [00:12:50] RECOVERY - db4 Puppet on db4 is OK: OK: Puppet is currently enabled, last run 1 minute ago with 0 failures [00:13:11] https://phabricator.miraheze.org/T680 - two years. Nearly. Two. Years. And. It's. Finally. Gone. [00:13:13] Title: [ ⚓ T680 Add statistics interface for founders/users ] - phabricator.miraheze.org [00:13:29] Although, since I work in IT, I do also know how to reconfigure my router and complete spoof all my technical data and throw it ~3000 miles across the globe if need be [00:13:58] AmandaCatherine yes we do know :D [00:14:22] You know how to do that too? [00:14:26] Are you IT as well? [00:14:40] AmandaCatherine i know you can spoof [00:14:47] just i doin't know how to do that my self [00:14:57] i am not a netops :D [00:15:27] Anyone really can spoof their IP with the right proxy/VPN. However, if you know IT and how routers are configured, you can do more than spoof your IP [00:16:05] AmandaCatherine i use the BT smart hub [00:16:38] Don’t think I’ve heard of that one.. [00:16:53] I rarely use an external application.. I just hardcode reconfigure the server or router [00:16:58] AmandaCatherine you never herd of british telecom? [00:17:15] If you don't count bots, I'm pretty sure the discord has like twice the members of this channel 8) [00:17:27] I’ve heard of it, but I’ve never heard of it being used for IT-stuff [00:17:30] almost PuppyKun [00:17:40] AmandaCatherine they have a buisness router [00:17:55] AmandaCatherine https://www.productsandservices.bt.com/broadband/smart-hub/ [00:17:58] Title: [ BT Smart Hub | Broadband Router | BT ] - www.productsandservices.bt.com [00:18:10] * AmandaCatherine chuckles as two other stewards randomly jump in out of nowhere :) [00:18:24] paladox: thanks, but I don’t need it [00:18:26] Voidwalker: almost? [00:18:31] discord has 93 non-bot members [00:18:31] almost exactly [00:18:40] this channel has like 43 [00:18:40] xD [00:18:41] AmandaCatherine i use it because it's supplied by bt [00:18:42] I use a personal router, and all of the businesses that I troubleshoot for have their own routers already [00:18:45] but is the best router [00:18:50] fast [00:18:51] I’d rather maintain mine myself [00:19:15] it's 44/46 to 90 actually [00:19:27] Actually cheaper, since you’re only paying a one-time down payment when you buy the router, rather than a recurring service charge for a third-party service [00:20:08] the recurring charge in the UK is line rental [00:20:41] most third-party services in Canada and the US charge a recurring usually monthly fee just to use the service [00:20:44] Regardless of anything else [00:20:48] Which I find annoying [00:20:50] JohnLewis yeh [00:20:53] expensive!! [00:21:05] but you get great speeds [00:21:08] 80/20 [00:21:12] and soon over 100mb [00:21:22] if they hurry and roll it out accross the uk [00:22:00] JohnLewis who supplys yours? [00:23:14] my what? [00:23:52] JohnLewis broadband? [00:24:01] Sky via BT [00:24:11] i had sky once [00:24:15] never going with them again [00:24:26] 25mbps on 40mbps [00:24:35] where as on bt it is 60-70mbps [00:24:48] but at my grans house it's near to 80mbps [00:35:46] Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times? [00:35:46] This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes. [00:35:47] Title: [ Continued and persistent spambot attack and clarification - freenode ] - freenode.net [00:36:32] Hmm.. a registered spambot [00:36:45] Are they really figuring out how to bypass the anti-spam tools? [00:36:45] registered? [00:36:49] the quiet ended. [00:36:53] Oh [00:37:00] So why is everyone still oped? [00:38:23] AmandaCatherine i re quieted. [00:39:52] and now Wiki-1776 and AlvaroMolina are interwiki-admins [00:43:23] congratulations Wiki-1776 AlvaroMolina! [00:44:41] !night [00:44:41] Good night, sweet dreams and dream of the miraheze servers without errors! [00:46:47] thanks :) JohnLewis paladox [00:46:59] your welcome :) [00:51:07] Ty JohnLewis. [01:10:50] !log sudo -u www-data php /srv/mediawiki/w/maint*/importImages.php /home/paladox/wiki/images --search-recursively --wiki=openhatchwiki on mw1 [01:10:54] Logged the message at https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Tech:Server_admin_log, Master [01:19:48] Hi [01:20:00] Yes [01:21:04] i think so. [01:21:20] you doin't need to set your ns to ns1.m.org [01:21:33] see https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Custom_domains [01:21:34] Title: [ Custom domains - Miraheze Meta ] - meta.miraheze.org [01:22:26] your welcome :) [02:15:34] .weather Voidwalker [02:15:36] paladox: I don't know where that is. [02:15:46] >:D [02:15:53] .weather paladox [02:15:53] Yahoo! Weather - London, England, GB: Mostly Cloudy, 18°C (64°F), Humidity: 72%, Moderate breeze 6.3m/s (→) [02:16:03] .weather paladin [02:16:04] Yahoo! Weather - Paladin, Castille and Leon, ES: Clear, 14°C (57°F), Humidity: 77%, Light breeze 3.1m/s (↙) [02:16:08] .time paladox [02:16:09] 2018-08-08 - 03:16:08BST [02:16:11] ZppixBot; Late at night [02:16:29] .sleep paladox [02:16:30] Lol [02:16:53] .remind mutante in 20s to set another reminder [02:17:00] .remind [02:17:05] .tell [02:17:05] paladox: tell whom? [02:17:31] .tell mutante in 20s to set another reminder [02:17:31] paladox: I'll pass that on when mutante is around. [02:17:45] mutante: [02:17:48] lol [02:17:48] mutante: 2018-08-08 - 02:17:31 tell mutante in 20s to set another reminder [02:18:00] .tell paladox in 2s to go to bed [02:18:00] mutante: I'll pass that on when paladox is around. [02:18:13] I better not speak [02:18:13] paladox: 2018-08-08 - 03:18:00BST tell paladox in 2s to go to bed [02:18:29] Too late [02:18:30] Lol [02:18:33] But yes [02:18:38] .tell ZppixBot to tell Paladox in 5 seconds to .tell mutante good night [02:18:38] mutante: I'm here now, you can tell me whatever you want! [02:18:58] .tell mutante good night [02:18:58] paladox: I'll pass that on when mutante is around. [02:19:24] * mutante is sending messages but the bot doesnt detect notices [02:19:24] mutante: 2018-08-08 - 02:18:58 tell mutante good night [02:19:30] busted.. it does [02:20:18] .weather ZppixBot [02:20:19] mutante: I don't know where that is. [02:20:49] mutante: ok lol and bye! [02:21:02] paladox: bye and i solved the redirect ticket [02:21:02] mutante: 2018-08-08 - 02:20:37 tell mutante hi and bye [06:14:27] hi! [06:14:45] how can access to matomo analytics? [06:15:08] for my wiki apellidosmurcianos.miraheze.org [07:52:44] how can I access to my wiki analytics (apellidosmurcianos)? [08:29:49] pmros it's not possible (yet), but maybe you can ask a sysadmin to tell you monthly visits or other data [08:36:07] thank you, MH-Discord, I'll wait [08:36:21] see you! [08:36:56] :) [10:44:48] Great to see that we have our first interwiki admins :) [12:05:11] [02miraheze/services] 07MirahezeSSLBot pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/fNSYX [12:05:12] [02miraheze/services] 07MirahezeSSLBot 03c8936ec - BOT: Updating services config for wikis [12:55:23] Good morning [13:25:20] JohnLewis: around? [13:41:27] Anyone else around? [13:44:52] me [13:45:09] from the other side of the bot 😛 [13:45:22] and I'm not a sysadmin or anything, but maybe I can help you, idk [13:45:39] No, I need an out-of-project scope page deleted [13:45:40] On Meta [13:46:00] oh, ok [13:47:09] !m Sigyn [13:47:09] <[d__d]> You're doing good work, Sigyn! [13:47:56] !m mode +q [13:47:57] <[d__d]> You're doing good work, mode +q! [13:48:00] Lol ^ [13:51:53] Channel seems dead... I’ll come back later [13:52:04] I’m here [13:52:14] Oh yay [13:52:58] MacFan4000: out of project scope https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Joey717/sandbox [13:52:59] Title: [ User:Joey717/sandbox - Miraheze Meta ] - meta.miraheze.org [13:53:02] Should be deleted [13:53:46] Stuff in the user space is fine [13:53:57] I am not going to delete [13:54:04] Ok [13:54:32] You didn’t need to roll back me like my edit was vandalism [13:55:19] MacFan4000: rollback implies that my edit was vandalism [13:55:24] You didn’t need to do that [13:55:31] I was going to self-revert anyway [14:00:56] Well, since it seems that I’m now being ignored... [14:40:13] Hm? [14:44:30] JohnLewis: ? [14:54:57] https://wiki1776.miraheze.org/wiki/Especial:CambiosRecientes "Categorías" from the Sidebar, redirects me to a website after modifying an unrelated interwiki.. why is that? [14:54:57] Title: [ Error de permisos - Wikihispano ] - wiki1776.miraheze.org [14:55:10] [02miraheze/services] 07MirahezeSSLBot pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/fNS2n [14:55:12] [02miraheze/services] 07MirahezeSSLBot 034438292 - BOT: Updating services config for wikis [14:59:00] It was fine before [15:00:01] I am unable to reproduce [15:00:56] hmm [15:01:42] that is because the sidebar is linking to Wiki:Categorías|Categorías, and wiki is on the global interwiki list [15:04:10] yep, will be that the new version of the Mediawiki added the interwiki "Wiki"? I see no related record in Metawiki [15:04:11] I don't know where it was added [15:05:37] and Wikipedia doesn't have that prefix. [15:09:25] Well, I'll have to fix the sidebar. Anyway, wouldn't it be better if the Wiki prefix linked to Wikipedia? [16:15:53] Hello [16:29:10] Hmm.. still dead [18:49:45] RECOVERY - mw3 JobQueue on mw3 is OK: JOBQUEUE OK - job queue below 300 jobs [20:19:14] RECOVERY - test1 Puppet on test1 is OK: OK: Puppet is currently enabled, last run 25 seconds ago with 0 failures [22:41:22] well, rip whatever the hell my client is doing [22:41:23] wat [23:05:42] paladox: there’s no logs of you discussing anything with JohnLewis here, but you approved a whole bunch of extension-review tasks saying that you discussed it on IRC [23:11:36] mutante_: haha enjoy that [23:12:26] Oh, hi JohnLewis [23:13:44] hi [23:14:13] Nice to see someone finally here - this channel has been dead-quiet all day [23:14:32] yeah [23:15:07] Anyway, did you discuss the extension stuff with paladox in a PM? Because botbot has no record of that ever being discussed here [23:15:16] as I said, the channel has been dead today [23:16:48] -staff is where he asked me [23:16:57] !ping [23:17:06] Oops, wrong channel [23:17:16] Why does extension review need to be discussed behind closed doors? [23:17:45] it doesn't [23:19:50] But why do you need to ask about stuff in the private room? [23:20:15] there's no reason [23:20:16] I thought staff chan is only used for things that *can’t* be discussed in a publicly logged channel like privacy issues etc [23:20:20] he just did [23:21:14] it's used liberally for offtopic person chat, long term poking and ontopic private stuff [23:21:47] Okay, well, at least that explains why the channel has been dead all day [23:21:58] Everyone was hiding all of the conversations behind the privacy wal [23:22:05] s/wal/wall [23:22:05] AmandaCatherine meant to say: Everyone was hiding all of the conversations behind the privacy wall [23:22:07] Lol [23:22:31] there's actually been no discussions today at all [23:23:38] Well, you could call talking about whether or not extensions could be approved “discussion” [23:24:08] hardly, he gave me a link, I said yes/no [23:24:35] Meh [23:25:27] Anyway, JohnLewis, mind a PM? [23:25:36] sure [23:36:47] Gonna try to beat some incoming storms with running an errand or two [23:36:51] BBL