[14:51:43] oops, forgot to unmute this channel, lol [14:52:06] anyway, I think the spambots are targeting a specific type of wiki [14:52:51] wikis about "shitposting" or "controvesial" content (such as reception wikis) [14:55:54] I think @Doug said that he'll resume today. [15:02:18] @Lake well the issue for us is more spambots creating accounts and 1) filling up Special:Listusers and 2) making our total user count artificially large [15:02:31] since I do think the vast vast majority of cases are stopped by AbuseFilters [15:02:59] 🤔 I suspect this may be caused by a group of trolls [15:03:47] I don't really think so, spambots are usually completely automated [15:04:02] there's not actual people creating accounts, it's usually a program that does it [15:04:33] of course there's a difference between 'spambots' and LTAs/trolls/vandals, not sure if maybe that's the confusion here [15:04:41] Command sent from Discord by DarkMatterMan4500: [15:04:42] .mhca DaddyMickey96 [15:04:42] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/DaddyMickey96 [15:05:05] Reception123: yeah, fair, but I find it strange that it's targeting only specific wikis [15:05:17] even smaller wikis that are not that active to begin with [15:05:28] BlakeIsHere458 created this to evade a lock. Here's proof that he confessed to it: [15:05:28] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/443926951292567562/839880550223577088/Screenshot_20210506-110346.png [15:05:59] my wiki is also public and has around 800 pages, but I haven't got a single spam account creation yet [15:10:12] Hmm yeah, that is a bit odd [15:11:13] @DarkMatterMan4500 wouldn't call that proof exactly as we can't prove the connection between the account in your screenshot and his Miraheze one [16:07:40] I'll have him confirm it then @Reception123 [16:49:28] > there's not actual people creating accounts, it's usually a program that does it [16:49:28] well, yes and no. The creation of individual accounts may be automated, but I do think these "spambot farms" have actual employees which supervise the spambot creations and respond to any errors [16:51:46] DarkMatterMan4500, I agree with Reception123, but I also don't think that's necessary as it may constitute entrapment, so I personally think you should just monitor it. Worse case, if their original account was locked long ago and they're behaving normally, there's not much point in locking them only to have them successfully appeal immediately after :) [17:34:47] > @DarkMatterMan4500 I agree with Reception123, but I also don't think that's necessary as it may constitute entrapment, so I personally think you should just monitor it. Worse case, if their original account was locked long ago and they're behaving normally, there's not much point in locking them only to have them successfully appeal immediately after :) @Miraheze-IRC Well, BlakeIsHere458 was originally [17:34:48] locked by you for abusing multiple accounts back in March. So that could be fine as he said he emailed the Stewards for appeal. [18:25:04] @DarkMatterMan4500, oh, okay, I'll take a look at his contributions then [18:30:48] @Doug Okay. And if I can remember, his last account before it was locked by you was TheAllNewBlakeIsHere, although it was obvious it was them. [18:32:38] okay [19:21:17] @Doug Did you have a look in his contributions? [20:48:18] https://nonbinary.wiki/w/index.php?title=Xenogender&oldid=24524 https://nonbinary.wiki/w/index.php?title=Xenogender&oldid=24523 https://nonbinary.wiki/w/index.php?title=Xenogender&oldid=24530 Something's strange about these edits. As far as I am concerned, I have a feeling that Eggsieleggsie and Gregheffleyontariogaygender MIGHT be the same user as Eggsieleggsie reverted Amazingkita's edit back to the vandalized edit [20:48:18] over a month ago. Could a Steward have a look at those 2 users' edits on the Nonbinary Wiki if it's possible? [20:48:21] [ Xenogender - Nonbinary Wiki ] - nonbinary.wiki [20:48:23] [ Xenogender - Nonbinary Wiki ] - nonbinary.wiki [20:48:24] [ Xenogender - Nonbinary Wiki ] - nonbinary.wiki [21:01:00] :BanHammerMH: [21:01:34] @Doug So they were the same user all along? [21:02:31] yes [21:02:52] It was pretty obvious behavioural evidence, though [21:03:28] @Doug Yeah, I knew there was a good reason to be concerned about their edits. [21:25:03] [[Special:CentralAuth/In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.]] Is this name a username policy violation, or no? [21:25:04] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/In_the_name_of_Allah,_the_Most_Gracious,_the_Most_Merciful. [21:25:16] [ Global account information for In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful - Miraheze Meta ] - meta.miraheze.org [22:43:31] DarkMatterMan4500, seen, and I'm wondering the same, tbh, as I thought it was against the Islamic religion to idolize Gods; therefore, persons of Islamic faith may be offended? [22:44:23] @Doug I'm debating on whether user should receive a warning or not, despite their username being not at all pleasant. [22:45:53] DarkMatterMan4500, you should be using UP violation notices, though. Didn't Reception123 message you about that? [22:46:00] s/should/should not [22:46:00] dmehus meant to say: DarkMatterMan4500, you should not be using UP violation notices, though. Didn't Reception123 message you about that? [22:46:29] Didn't say I was going to. [22:46:59] Well, you said "I'm debating," so what would you be debating? [22:47:44] @Doug To put it simply, I was debating on whether you or another admin could go and warn the user, so to speak. [22:49:00] Should've been clarified much better. [22:49:38] DarkMatterMan4500, ah, okay, that's fine then, yes. Thanks for clarifying :) [22:50:24] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User_talk:%E2%84%91%F0%9D%94%AA_%F0%9D%94%9E_%F0%9D%94%A5%F0%9D%94%B2%F0%9D%94%A4%F0%9D%94%A2_%F0%9D%94%A3%F0%9D%94%B2%F0%9D%94%A0%F0%9D%94%A6%F0%9D%94%AB%F0%9D%94%A4_%F0%9D%94%A0%F0%9D%94%B2%F0%9D%94%AB%F0%9D%94%B1_%F0%9D%94%A9%F0%9D%94%AC%F0%9D%94%A9 While I did warn this user a week ago, I should've left this to your or another global functionary instead of just warning the user [22:50:25] myself. So sorry about that. [22:50:26] [ User talk:ℑ𝔪 𝔞 𝔥𝔲𝔤𝔢 𝔣𝔲𝔠𝔦𝔫𝔤 𝔠𝔲𝔫𝔱 𝔩𝔬𝔩 - Miraheze Meta ] - meta.miraheze.org [22:52:05] Yes, that's the one. In fact, I should redo that warning [22:52:51] @Doug Again, I'm terribly sorry for sending that user a warning while not an administrator. [22:53:32] No problem. You didn't know. Now you do, so it's fine. :)