[12:32:24] https://rottenwebsites.miraheze.org/wiki/Survivors_of_the_Abortion_Holocaust#comment-5392 I came across this comment threatening to shut down the Rotten Websites Wiki and says he'll/she'll tell so many people on "other websites" about it. Something tells me there's going to be a likely raid of that wiki, which is really problematic. [12:32:25] [ Survivors of the Abortion Holocaust - Rotten Websites Wiki ] - rottenwebsites.miraheze.org [12:54:18] [[Special:CentralAuth/LifeTutorLivesNewster]] And here's the user responsible for that threat. [12:54:20] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/LifeTutorLivesNewster [12:54:20] [ Global account information for LifeTutorLivesNewster - Miraheze Meta ] - meta.miraheze.org [13:22:08] Just a comment as a Wiki Creator, this wiki or at least that page does deserve deletion since it is violating the Miraheze [[Content Policy]] by spreading unsubstantiated hate, insult and possibly rumours against a group of people. If any contacts Stewards complaining about this, I would say it would be fair for Stewards to take necessary actions. [13:22:08] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Content_Policy [13:22:09] [ Content Policy - Miraheze Meta ] - meta.miraheze.org [13:25:26] While yes, this wiki does have some articles that appear to be problematic, but however, on the flip-side of things, some people have already made similar complaints before, but nothing was done about it. All I can say is that the comment could also be problematic, not just the article itself. [13:34:48] I do not know about any formal complaint. While I cannot speak for the Stewards, I do not believe Stewards did nothing does not mean you do not have problematic content. There are not enough references in the article. Imagine yourself seeing someone write something bad about you, how would you feel? [13:36:16] Rather angered. If I was an admin of a wiki someone wrote bad stuff about me, I would AUTOMATICALLY delete it and block the user for it. [16:13:14] @DarkMatterMan4500 That page certainly invites controversy, so it's bound to generate upset. However, don't see any issues with that page. Conversely, that user raising a complaint and criticism of said page and wiki is also legitimate, so I see no issues with that as well. From a technical standpoint regarding your link, the comment in question appears to have been deleted. Deleted comments from the Comments extension aren't viewable, so I [16:13:14] can't assess the individual comment [16:13:58] Yeah, I am aware of the comment's deletion as the user was blocked for being a troll. [16:15:48] @DarkMatterMan4500 Okay, I'm not aware of their other contributions, so may or may not be a troll; however, regarding raising criticism, my personal view as a community member is that you should not block users merely for raising legitimate criticism about content on your wiki. That may not have been the case, completely, here, but just a general observation I thought I should observe [16:17:59] I didn't do the block on that wiki though. However the user has said this "You got until Monday to delete this biased and defamatory page. If it's not deleted by then, I will tell as many sites and groups and people including Survivors of the Abortion Holocaust that they have a page here and then if after that this page is still up, I will shut down this wiki." I understand if the user was upset over that page being made, [16:17:59] but threatening to shut down that wiki is what I was concerned about. [16:19:15] @DarkMatterMan4500 Okay, thanks, yeah, that sounds like a fair block then. If they were just citing reasons for why they disapprove of the page, then I would say that feels like shutting down criticism [16:25:09] No problem. And besides, if it was for censoring criticism, then of course a big problem would arise, but thankfully that's not the case. [16:37:59] yeah [16:38:51] Anyway, if your wiki ends up being vandalized and there's suspected sockpuppetry, you can let us know, but at this point, I don't feel there's a need to do anything here [16:38:58] That said page has been deleted by SpazJR61. [16:39:07] oh [16:39:28] Sounds like a reasonable outcome then. :) [16:40:20] Yep, and a wise one too. I don't really know that much about that group anyways. [19:24:53] [[Special:CentralAuth/EeveeLover]] I don't suppose you guys remember Bella2006 right? https://crappygames.miraheze.org/wiki/Blog:The_Miraheze_Community_Rant Well, does this blog post have any indications that it could possibly be Bella2006? [19:24:53] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/EeveeLover [19:24:54] [ The Miraheze Community Rant - Crappy Games Wiki ] - crappygames.miraheze.org [19:24:55] [ Global account information for EeveeLover - Miraheze Meta ] - meta.miraheze.org [19:33:27] @Stewards, could you please do CU checks on accounts created on 2nd December on [[mh:snapwiki:]]? I was checking it's abuse log and found spam-only accounts. I suspect there may be open proxies or abuse of multiple accounts you may want to investigate. Thank you. [19:33:28] https://snapwiki.miraheze.org/wiki/ [19:33:29] [ Homepage ] - snapwiki.miraheze.org [19:38:40] @Zppix So Μπέλα2006 came back and made another blog post that's against the Coc [19:39:28] Remember it happened back in November. And I already received a reply from Doug on that blog post anyway. [19:39:42] Also blocked a user on [[mh:batman:]] for the same reason but you can consider it handled since it was just one user. [19:39:42] https://batman.miraheze.org/wiki/ [19:39:44] [ Batmanpedia - Batmanpedia ] - batman.miraheze.org [19:40:19] He also wrote that same blog on Awful Movies Wiki before it was deleted [19:41:05] @DarkMatterMan4500 had to restore it so you can read it [19:42:08] I deleted the blog post, but for those who aren't aware of what that blog post said, this is what it said: "Well, oh dear it’s a bad one (And i’m not the one who did Duchess Exposed), The Community really needs the improve, The stuff I like is the diversity of the community and good users who do good edits, but the bad apples outweigh the good ones. For Example, Blocking Users on many wikis over a little thing (For [19:42:09] example, Duchess Blocked Bella2006 for a very tiny thing, and later got locked), This hurts me as users like Duchess are affected by this as these user have little to no experience in Admin skill, It’s Because they don’t know how being admin work. If your doing this, only do it for trolls, not good faith users. Next, Creating terrible ideas of wikis, This is bad because users have made many cringe wiki ideas like Bad users and wikis [19:42:09] wikis, Bad YouTubers, and Bad Vyonders. These wikis had awful quality that caused their downfall. It’s great to see dumb wikis close. Next and last, Inexperienced users, this is a major problem for Miraheze, Miraheze is supposed to be a professional site with prof users, but this isn’t the case, Many users are inexperienced since as mentioned above, they are highly abusing there admin powers which is something a Wikipedia admin [19:42:10] wouldn’t do. These users seem to be inexperienced young teens who claim to be Well Experienced but are really not, This includesDuchessTheSponge, Hookuai, HellLord (So Happy he got locked), Zeephare, Moe, ItMeansNothing, Crs3011, Mar8122, and Bella2006. I hope you read this and enjoy it, this wasn’t made by bella2006." [19:42:54] Yup [19:43:05] Overall just a violation of Miraheze's CoC [19:44:09] Looks like he even spammed it on Loathsome Characters Wiki as well :/ [19:44:48] Even though it has happened back in November, there's no need to make that many comments all at once. [19:44:58] K [19:47:44] Ah, never mind. I just remembered something. This is not needed anymore. 🙂 [19:49:24] They could maybe have a look if they wish to. [19:49:46] Nah, I have something in mind. 🙂 [19:50:20] Alright then. [20:14:10] Just December 2nd? [20:14:31] Oh, that's fine then. [20:14:37] :thistbh: [20:15:04] looking [20:15:32] That's just one user. You do need to look. I was just generally speaking, which I should not have done, really. [20:15:58] oh ok [20:16:10] Thank you. 🙂 [20:17:59] It is a spam only account, though, and a strange one. I've never seen them use "Mira" in their username. I'll have a quick look [20:24:42] @DuchessTheSponge [[Special:CentralAuth/RazorRex]] Don't forget about this account too. [20:24:43] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/RazorRex [20:24:44] [ Global account information for RazorRex - Miraheze Meta ] - meta.miraheze.org [20:27:13] I've :DoneMH: locked the user account as a spam only account, but admittedly, I should've checked the dates on the abuselog entries [20:29:00] which wiki(s) was this, and what are the involved users? [20:29:31] Crappy Games Wiki, the one you were on earlier. [20:30:23] I don't get the context though. Are you alleging a user is related to Greek guy (Mtte2006/Bella2006)? If so, which user(s)? [20:31:19] The account has mentioned Bella2006 multiple times. Perhaps maybe a screenshot could help. [20:32:09] which account? [20:32:17] EeveeLover. [20:32:20] EeveeLover [20:32:27] okay [20:32:28] @Doug That's the account [20:32:44] I'll take a look [20:32:54] I can give you more proof [20:32:54] I'll restore it again. [20:33:14] @Doug I also sent you a friend request to discuss about this [20:34:32] It's okay I have browsearchive rights [20:34:43] I'm reading the deleted contributions [20:34:49] Oh, alright. [20:42:18] The Batmanpedia user I reported? [20:43:55] Never mind. Just checked RC on Meta. Thank you very much. 🙂 [20:44:28] Glad things are taken care of on your end. If you see anymore, please don't hesitate. [20:51:17] @R4356th np [21:06:16] @DarkMatterMan4500 and @DuchessTheSponge The contributions are similar to two different users, I agree, but they're more similar to one particular user than the other, and the technical evidence doesn't provide any solid support. As such, I'm not comfortable saying that there has been sockpuppetry. I have, however, locked EeveeLover for crosswiki abuse and disruption. If you see further accounts created with contributions similar to [21:06:16] EeveeLover, then you may report those in a subsequent report [21:06:57] Thank you. [21:07:05] @DarkMatterMan4500 np [21:15:21] @Doug Also, these following files should get deleted: https://awfulmovies.miraheze.org/wiki/File:DuchessFive.jpeg https://awfulmovies.miraheze.org/wiki/File:DuchessFour.jpeg https://awfulmovies.miraheze.org/wiki/File:DuchessThree.jpeg https://awfulmovies.miraheze.org/wiki/File:DuchessTwo.jpeg https://awfulmovies.miraheze.org/wiki/File:DuchessOne.jpeg [21:15:23] [ File:DuchessFive.jpeg - Awful Movies Wiki ] - awfulmovies.miraheze.org [21:15:24] [ File:DuchessFour.jpeg - Awful Movies Wiki ] - awfulmovies.miraheze.org [21:15:25] [ File:DuchessThree.jpeg - Awful Movies Wiki ] - awfulmovies.miraheze.org [21:15:26] [ File:DuchessTwo.jpeg - Awful Movies Wiki ] - awfulmovies.miraheze.org [21:15:27] [ File:DuchessOne.jpeg - Awful Movies Wiki ] - awfulmovies.miraheze.org [21:30:24] @DarkMatterMan4500 I agree that behaviourally the contributions of EeveeLover are similar to Greek guy, but I don't know why you are reporting EeveeLover now 2 months after their last activity. This is quite old. User is locked now for crosswiki abuse and failing to communicate with local users and administrators, which is fine, but reports of potential UAP contraventions should be very recent. Otherwise, there's little need to do, well, much [21:30:24] of anything [21:56:54] I know. I should've reported when it occurred.