[04:40:06] https://emailtomail.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges I don't know if this correctly fits here, but this is very strange [04:40:10] [ Recent changes - emailtomail ] - emailtomail.miraheze.org [04:40:53] apparently it's an user creating various pages in a matter of seconds with weird titles and the exact same content [04:42:43] Over 25,000 spammy edits it seems. [05:48:53] > Actually, this is harassment. @Inkster Correction: It's actually criticism. [05:49:12] No. [05:49:23] Calling me names is NOT criticism. [05:54:04] Hi Inkster Bunny!!!! [05:58:19] I don't react if some calls "Portcock". [06:00:44] Anyway, these are offensive "reacts". [06:11:57] Ok [06:15:58] @Mullet: yeah you're not funny [06:16:47] Ok? [06:17:40] @Mullet: I've gone ahead and muted you in the server. Calling someone names the line after they say they don't want that is not appropiate under any circumstance. [06:17:48] The mute lasts 3 days [06:37:56] > Calling me names is NOT criticism. @Inkster Yes it is, but rather in a disrespectful way. And you rely on being victimized. Stop it. Easy as cake. That's all [07:16:16] @Hookuai: we're capable of handling it thank you [07:16:39] ok wots going on [07:17:12] @Minister of State Security (PRC): we don't need random univolved people inputting either. [07:18:43] > @Minister of State Security (PRC): we don't need random univolved people inputting either. @RhinosF1 i know those people, even though i am not involved with those wikis, i am involved with their discord [07:19:02] reception wikis, tfhw, ton, fsp [07:19:28] well it would be good if i stayed out. : ) [07:19:34] bye [07:19:51] @Minister of State Security (PRC): if you have something productive to say regarding the conduct issues, let us know. Otherwise, let's leave it because we're not dragging drama up and causing CoC issueswhich is all this debate has done. [07:19:59] ok [07:22:10] @Hookuai: not appropiate [07:28:35] @RhinosF1 on what? [07:28:47] @Hookuai: https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/443926951292567562/754591678337253446 [07:28:48] [ Discord ] - discord.com [07:28:57] Oh [07:29:17] Srry bout that [08:06:30] it seems these reception wikis account for over 90% of the problems CVTs have to handle [10:18:42] They do [12:15:52] (Sighs) I wish this server have no drama within the next three months especially for the upcoming holiday season. [17:35:36] > https://emailtomail.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges > I don't know if this correctly fits here, but this is very strange @Lake yeah I haven't looked at that wiki, but it may not be a productive wiki. It may be worth taking a look. If it's archiving e-mails that haven't been shared publicly, that's a problem for sure [17:35:39] [ Recent changes - emailtomail ] - emailtomail.miraheze.org [17:40:10] @Doug it's creating multiple pages with the exact same content [17:40:24] isn't creating rn, but some hours earlier, it seems like a bot [17:40:28] creating everything [17:40:42] (although the user isn't in the bot usergroups) [17:41:00] @Lake Wow, they should really bot flag that account then. 😛 [17:41:12] it looks like the only active user on the wiki [17:41:14] I haven't looked at the pages, they're the exact same? [17:41:18] yes [17:41:20] @Reception123 aparently knows the deal with it [17:41:21] wow [17:41:33] 20k copies of the same page [17:41:34] @Doug did you get my dm [17:41:41] But I have never understand that wiki from when they first applied [17:41:42] yeah, it's a script for their wiki [17:41:45] @Cocopuff2018 Getting there. [17:42:14] > yeah, it's a script for their wiki @Reception123 Well they should bot flag that account. If they don't, we may have to do a community proposal to compel them to bot flag it [17:42:23] if it keeps up indefinitely [17:42:34] but what's the deal with the pages itself? 🤔 [17:42:37] I could ask them to yeah [17:42:42] there's literally nothing different aside from the title [17:42:53] @Lake I'm not sure to be honest, apparently it's some initiative for people who don't have access to the internet [17:42:57] > I could ask them to yeah @Reception123 and if they don't, we do have options as a collective community [17:43:01] I remember that [17:43:10] > @Lake I'm not sure to be honest, apparently it's some initiative for people who don't have access to the internet @Reception123 oh [17:43:12] okay [17:43:16] But yeah I've never entirely got the point [17:43:23] then it's probably fine, as long as the pages aren't the exact same [17:43:27] I remember the email we got about it [17:43:43] @Doug: they are afaics the exact same [17:43:47] well, at least isn't a spam problem [17:43:54] it seems [17:44:07] > @Doug: they are afaics the exact same @RhinosF1 but why are they creating carbon copies of the exact same pages? 🤔 [17:44:09] It's spam but they own the wiki [17:44:15] true [17:44:21] @Doug: I asked @Reception123 this morning [17:44:36] but we do have prohibitions on SEO manipulation, which this could be, if looking at that criterion broadly [17:44:36] They dealt with them in the first place [17:44:43] also, how do you type letters when calling people on the phone [17:44:44] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/443926951292567562/754759473004019712/unknown.png [17:45:11] wow, that seems useless yeah never heard of that telephone number and I'm in Canada [17:45:41] @Lake: each number corresponds to letters. Most phones have letters also on [17:45:57] @Lake but each number corresponds to several letters [17:46:07] @RhinosF1 we said the same thing again 😛 [17:46:20] It would be 800-26843-2020 [17:46:25] I believe [17:46:41] > It would be 800-26843-2020 looks about right [17:47:26] yeah, I don't get what they're trying to achieve but it's not "spam" per se [17:58:31] @Doug you saw my dm [17:59:12] @Cocopuff2018 Still getting there. [17:59:52] > yeah, I don't get what they're trying to achieve but it's not "spam" per se @Reception123 maybe not, I'd have to take a closer look. Hopefully they at least agree to bot flag their account willingly [18:04:32] > it seems these reception wikis account for over 90% of the problems CVTs have to handle They actually do. In fact, they also cause a lot of problems to the point that they gave Miraheze a bad reputation. [18:06:07] Miraheze is going to be find its reputation has way more good things to it so the Bad stuff will not be effective [18:17:46] People hate Miraheze as a whole b3cause if the reception wikis. [18:22:51] I've heard some horrible stories [18:56:40] @Reception123: check the tech@ email about a missed cvt@ email ASAP please [18:56:51] Cc @Zppix as that reply sounds like your wording [18:58:44] sounds like a case for Stewards as that wiki is problematic generally @Void @NDKilla [19:00:21] $log removed inappropriate content from thefinalrumblewiki [19:00:27] Saved item "removed inappropriate content from thefinalrumblewiki" [19:21:38] > People hate Miraheze as a whole because of the reception wikis. what kind of logic is this? there's more reasons to dislike miraheze like frequent crashes and stuff, not just our wikis [19:34:45] they're not wrong, thiugh [19:35:46] the content on the wikis itself don't violate the terms of use (I assume), but it seems that the community around it are like 15 year old ancap teenagers [21:02:03] Welcome cumsock. If you need to report spam or abuse, please feel free to notify any of the voiced (+v) users, if it contains personal information you can pm them, or email us at cvt [at] miraheze.org [21:13:27] @CVT Please look into User:TheFanOfBaldeerReturns. Looks like a clear vandalism only account to me with bizarre page moves and counter-productive edit warring. No useful contributions form the looks of it. [21:14:02] no u [21:16:19] @CVT Likely username policy violation for User:cumsock. If not, their contributions are worth a look to see if they're a vandalism-only account [22:04:33] Welcome jessy. If you need to report spam or abuse, please feel free to notify any of the voiced (+v) users, if it contains personal information you can pm them, or email us at cvt [at] miraheze.org