[02:33:56] ashley: currently writing up some posts on the general discussion shoutwiki forum :) they're mostly proposals which intend to help improve wikis [02:35:46] awesome, looking forward to 'em :D [02:38:39] (I also want to write a proposal about organizing stuff on phabricator, not sure whether or not that should be a forum or an actual phabricator ticket, but I'll probably write a ticket for that) [02:38:46] (or you know, maybe both :P) [02:42:37] don't think there's a need for a forum page about that (because you can probably guess that the only ones commenting on it would be staff anyway :p) [02:55:18] ha [02:55:39] hmm ashley, are you able to access http://www.kvirc.net/? [02:56:55] trying to figure out how to login with KVIRC because I want to apply for a countervandalism cloak (since I perform stuff like that on MediaWiki.org which gets vandalism a lot) [02:57:18] and trying to run /msg MemoServ send cvn-gc IRC cloak request just gives back a "You are not logged in." response [03:00:07] ashley - also: http://www.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Forum:Create_a_volunteer-based_group_for_cross_wiki_anti-vandalism [03:06:48] have you registered your IRC account? your whois data (/whois SamanthaNguyen) doesn't say that you would have... [03:07:22] I thought registering my nickname for IRC is the same thing, but I guess not [03:08:15] hmm wait, try again? I think I'm registered now [03:08:28] [05:08:25] === SamanthaNguyen is logged in as SamanthaNguyen [03:08:30] \o/ [03:08:40] turns out i used the wrong password :P [03:08:48] hehe :P [03:09:26] okay sweet, the command worked now [03:09:35] so hopefully i'll get a cloak soon :D [03:09:41] w00t :D [03:09:49] and then maybe one day I can get a mediawiki cloak heheh :P [03:09:57] you could get it now if you'd want :p [03:10:24] re:volunteer group, I have mixed thoughts about that. on the other hand, I like the idea and having more people delete spam and whatnot would be great. but then again it's not like there are so many users eager to help out; most people seem to care only about themselves and their wiki(s) as opposed to the whole service [03:10:53] the closest thing we have so far is the intern group, and some of our current staff started out as interns (hi Cook879 ;) [03:11:16] yeah except I'm supposed to have +2 rights to a WMF-deployed extension or skin (or core), which I don't [03:11:43] that's what https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gerrit/%2B2 says at least [03:14:15] okay so [citation needed] on the requirement of +2 rights [03:14:35] I'm pretty sure we have people with a MW cloak who don't have core +2 yet they have a MW cloak on IRC [03:14:36] like me :P [03:14:53] (technically speaking I have +2 on a few WMF-deployed extensions, though!) [03:14:57] oh, well I was guessing you had it because you created GlobalUserPage which is a WMF-deployed extension :P [03:15:12] ah, alright [03:15:47] well, I just submitted a request for a countervandalism cloak :P would #mediawiki replace that, or could I have multiple cloaks at once? [03:16:00] I've had my cloak literally years before anyone even thought of GlobalUserPage ;-) [03:16:12] :o [03:16:23] you can combine cloaks to a certain degree, but I'm not sure how that works these days, so you'll wanna ask someone who knows about this stuff [03:16:53] okay, I'll try to find someone [03:17:05] :) [03:17:08] eventually I'll find the right person to ask :P [03:18:22] about to write another proposal (you mightt wanna add your response to the forum, cause otherwise your response here will get lost and forgotten :P ) [03:18:33] but first, wikimedia phab ticket i need to create :P [03:18:46] GlobalUserPage was open-sourced in June '14 and it was created on 22 December 2013 and I've had my cloak since late 2009 at least ;-) [03:19:15] and yeah, eventually, I'll ask for the team's thoughts on it although I have a feeling their stance on that is similar to mine (but I can't say for sure!) [03:23:18] also, lemme mention you this crazy idea I had a few days ago [03:23:32] alright :) [03:24:02] so 2017 is a big year for social tools because most tools (save for Comments, VoteNY and the DynamicPageList-like awful piece of shit named ListPages which I haven't intentionally brought back from the graveyard) were developed in 2007 [03:24:33] so I figured I could write up something about 'em in an attempt to increase social tools' visibility and whatnot to wikitech-l and somesuch [03:24:53] (although some folks suggested that this might not be a good idea since wikitech-l isn't usually the place for that sorta stuff) [03:25:27] I've actually something scribbled down, it's basically a more expanded version of [[mw:social tools]] (with some of my personal bias thrown in ;-) [03:26:32] ooh [03:27:18] well, it's better to try and fail than not to try at all and as a result have nothing happen; And who knows, it might work? :) [03:27:43] could you pastebin what you wrote so far and send it to me? [03:27:47] (or gist, whatever works) [03:29:27] http://pastebin.com/ZhFpvRw9 -- expires in 10 minutes [03:29:55] thanks, reading through it now [03:29:57] obviously missing stuff about the years 2012-2016 :p [03:32:33] heheh, there's a todo at the end "old AGM user profile page, TODO ADD THIS SOMEWHERE" gonna add it eventually? ;-) From experience, TODOs are usually easily forgotten [03:33:38] rest looks good though :) and yes, there isn't much stuff for that :P [03:34:12] I could probably try and help with 2016 stuff since that's when I started to get really interested in the social tools extension umbrella, but the rest I obviously can't assist with :P [03:35:25] aye, it's a work-in-progress (but I literally had no better place to put it, and figured it has to be in the same .txt file or otherwise I'll forget about it) [03:36:20] I'll save it as a private gist, so I can go back to it (I won't share it of course!) If I can think of improvements, I'll try to share them with you :) [03:36:35] there's also some ancient history that isn't mentioned there yet (namely WikiScripts.org, which was -- AFAIK -- Aaron Wright's short-lived MediaWiki site; since Aaron wrote a lot of the social tools, many of 'em originated there) [03:36:38] sure [03:40:19] anyway it's all too late or oh so very early, so I'll be heading to bed :P g'night! [03:41:17] sounds good :) night o/ [05:20:33] (03CR) 10VolkerE: [WIP] Cleanup AFTv5 tooltip & CSS, and convert it to mw-collapsible element (032 comments) [extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/330107 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146524) (owner: 10SamanthaNguyen) [21:32:17] ashley: hey o/ [21:32:27] just got back home :P how are ya? [21:48:45] howdy :P been tired and slept through a fair part of the day; have some essays and stuff to write but no motivation for that; you? [21:51:22] I'm alright, working on the Nimbus ticket that you created earlier today :) [21:51:34] Also organizing tickets! [21:51:55] awesome :D [21:52:33] I was making some smallish tweaks to SocialProfile earlier on as well as going through skinning stuff and let's just say that more responsive skins are *badly* needed [21:52:37] yep! oh btw, I found something you might be interested in [21:52:51] yep, just saw my github feed and saw you make about, 4-5 commits? :P [21:53:22] smallish commits tho :p [21:53:40] also agreed; as people are now using more devices that are smaller, responsive design is getting more important [21:54:28] oh and I saw this: https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-CodeEditor/commit/7148dfcf3f62b3c3beeafa8c0c46da2a348255b1 I was thinking maybe you could base a patch for block dialog on MWC on that? [21:55:10] if you ever feel like writing one, you don't have to though :P I bet Adam would be interested though [21:55:32] maybe eventually; I have a half-assed patch which uses jQuery UI dialog which I posted on the relevant phab ticket [21:55:45] yep, https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T145310 [21:59:13] Just added my comment to the ticket so it won't be lost in IRC :) [22:23:28] heh, talk about technical debt :P https://github.com/Wikia/app/blob/dev/extensions/wikia/RandomWiki/RandomWikiHelper.class.php#L4 [22:27:53] heh, aye; it's because Wikia's $wgSharedDB is still called 'wikicities' and that's because renaming a database is not easy (especially on a site like Wikia) [22:33:42] yep [22:33:44] o/ [22:33:49] hi [22:34:12] !logs [22:34:12] Channel logs available at http://wm-bot.wmflabs.org/browser/index.php?display=%23brickimedia [22:36:59] mediawikichat should support newlines in messages instead of having to use
e.g. textarea > input for message box [22:38:31] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T145980 [22:38:52] good [22:46:37] alright about to claim it and work on it [22:46:57] should be relatively easy, just need to add some CSS like max-width so it doesn't overflow [22:51:19] Can someone open up http://social-tools.wmflabs.org/wiki/Special:Chat so I can test textarea for PM? [22:52:13] wow social profile notifications [22:52:52] ye, ashley worked on those [22:56:31] there it is - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/278868/ [22:58:45] so why dont we have those on the wiki [22:59:12] because it requires upgrading to 1.28 which hasn't been done [23:02:39] nice [23:02:45] let's do that [23:13:20] there's some ticket that's blocking that, let me find it [23:13:53] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T143512 [23:14:50] well i guess it goes with it [23:16:27] so lets do it [23:18:05] i still don't have a PuTTY session setup for brickimedia (i need to redo that) [23:18:51] (03PS1) 10SamanthaNguyen: v2.20.2 - use textarea instead of input for messages [extensions/MediaWikiChat] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/332005 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T145980) [23:22:14] (03PS2) 10SamanthaNguyen: v2.20.2 - use textarea instead of input for messages [extensions/MediaWikiChat] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/332005 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T145980) [23:33:27] should be almost ready with the patch..just need to add some CSS for the textarea [23:39:29] so what happens in the logs when someone sends a message with a newline? because logs don't have newlines [23:43:49] good question [23:45:59] (03PS3) 10SamanthaNguyen: [WIP] v2.20.2 - use textarea instead of input for messages [extensions/MediaWikiChat] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/332005 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T145980) [23:47:50] tested the patch out on my localhost, so even though there's a textarea, it doesn't currently allow you to type on separate lines [23:49:16] (03PS4) 10SamanthaNguyen: [WIP] v2.20.2 - use textarea instead of input for messages [extensions/MediaWikiChat] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/332005 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T145980) [23:50:33] It could be written so that when the message is sent, it's logged as separate log actions, just in a row